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What is freedom to YOU?

 
 
Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 08:41 pm
To me, freedom means being able to make a living anywhere in the world where I want to be. The "land of the free" is the land where I choose to be. Freedom means being able to decide what my daily schedule will be. What does freedom mean to you?

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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 09:13 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I feel free because I can say what I feel is true,
I can go where I want,
because my spirit sings in it's chains...
I own me.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 09:17 pm
@Robert Gentel,
To me, freedom means that I have time to do the things I enjoy.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 09:18 pm
@Lash,
Even when society or government impedes me, I make a choice every time----do I take my shoes off for Homeland Security, or do I refuse? (I assess strip searches, detainment, and lawsuits....and I take my shoes off) I'm still one of those nuts who feels I run my life...
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 09:26 pm
Try taking a trip to Cuba to see just how free you are.
roger
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 09:29 pm
@JTT,
Can we do that, though? Using the US as a point of departure?

Good point, though.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 10:01 pm
Hmmm...great question.

The deciding your own work schedule thing is a big one for me.....and I probably have a bit more freedom to do that than lots of other people, but I would like more of it.

The freedom I am most thinking about at present is the freedom to refrain from reacting in habitual ways to difficult events, instead to be mindful of the "pull" of habit, but taking space to treat things differently.

I will think some more.



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darkshed
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 09:32 pm
@Robert Gentel,
hmm. freedom to me is you can SHOUT OUT anthing, you are the on to decide what path of life you like..
mismi
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 10:23 pm
@darkshed,
Being able to worship as I see fit - if that is what I want. Being able to work where I can, pursue the dreams I desire, bring my children up as I see fit. Marry who I want. Vote how I want. Wear what I want. Fear nothing.

I do these things...I am thankful
I can control the fear...in my sane moments.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 10:55 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I see your concept of freedom as luxurious, Robert, though at one point some time ago I was close to it. My own is that I can maintain possession of my own mind/heart in times of apparent constraint.

I hope I don't have to show up with a video..
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2009 11:55 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:

Quote:
To me, freedom means being able to make a living anywhere in the world where I want to be. The "land of the free" is the land where I choose to be. Freedom means being able to decide what my daily schedule will be. What does freedom mean to you?

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That all sounds good.
Freedom n the (domestic) power of government r INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL.





David
aidan
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 12:41 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
What is freedom to YOU?

Nowhere I HAVE to be and the ability to walk.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2009 02:27 am
@aidan,
aidan wrote:

Quote:
What is freedom to YOU?

Nowhere I HAVE to be and the ability to walk.

I just remarked to one of my tenants, yesterday, how GOOD that is;
however taking cabs is better than walking; or more FREEDOM than walking.





David
aidan
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 03:15 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Yeah, but when you take a cab David = you're at the mercy of the cab driver to a certain extent (is cab driver one or two words? CABDRIVER sounds right but doesn't look right) anyway - walking or getting somewhere on your own power - you're entirely autonomous.

I also really like driving - ALONE- with no particular place to go or with a destination in mind that I'm really excited about. I like going alone because I can listen to whatever music I like, however loud I like it and I can turn the heat all the way up if I want to...when you have kids you learn to enjoy these little alone and totally autonomous moments where you can choose your own stimulus or environment without feeling that you have to compromise or you'll be impinging on someone else's feelings or wants or desires.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 07:16 pm
@aidan,
"aidan" wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, but when you take a cab David = you're at the mercy of the cab driver to a certain extent

I 've taken a lot of cabs, but never found that to be the case,
so far as I remember; he wants his tip.



Quote:
(is cab driver one or two words?
CABDRIVER sounds right but doesn't look right)

2 words

Quote:

anyway - walking or getting somewhere on your own power - you're entirely autonomous.

Yeah, but u can get tired, n its slower.


Quote:

I also really like driving - ALONE- with no particular place to go
or with a destination in mind that I'm really excited about.
I like going alone because I can listen to whatever music I like,
however loud I like it and I can turn the heat all the way up
if I want to...when you have kids you learn to enjoy these little
alone and totally autonomous moments where you can choose
your own stimulus or environment without feeling that you have
to compromise or you'll be impinging on someone else's feelings
or wants or desires.

Yeah; that 's good; I have experience with that.





David
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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2009 07:24 pm
courtesy of mr. billy bragg and his song "The Marching Song Of The Covert Battalions", written in the 80's about americas interest in south american politics

"Here we come with our candy and our guns
And our corporate muscle marches in behind us
For freedom's just another word for nothing left to sell
And if you want narcotics we can get you those as well"
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 08:19 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

courtesy of mr. billy bragg and his song "The Marching Song Of The Covert Battalions",
written in the 80's about americas interest in south american politics

"Here we come with our candy and our guns
And our corporate muscle marches in behind us
For freedom's just another word for nothing left to sell
And if you want narcotics we can get you those as well"


1 ) In my opinion, Mr. Bragg 's failure to see any value
in freedom unless he has something to sell evokes pathos.

2 ) For MY part,
I reject the War on Drugs and I see that as a crime by the US Government
in a drastic USURPATION of power. It is a principle of FUNDAMENTAL IMPORTANCE
that no government in America was ever granted authority
to protect a person from his own bad judgment,
nor from any self-destructive activity. Governent was created
to defend us from violations of our rights BY OTHERS.

So far as the War on Drugs is concerned:
the US Government shares only the same authority as a schoolyard bully.


I detect a subtle approval
of the War on Drugs in the last line of his song:
NO SALE -- REJECT !

Illegal narcotic drugs are poison, in my opinion,
and each of us has the absolute right to consume poison (if we own it).
Every person is his own property
and he has the absolute right to end his life whenever he chooses to do so,
or to be self-destructive to a lesser extent, if such be his choice.
That is his private business.


If we accept the misbegotten principle
that government has been authorized to stop us from
indulging in self-destructive conduct,
then we have nothing to rely upon
when it approaches us to control our ingestion of red meat
or requiring us to get a designated amount of sleep each nite.
There is no limit.





David
Chumly
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 08:22 am
What is freedom to me?

Sexual freedom.

Why?

Because overall social tolerance should follow suit!
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2009 10:16 am
@OmSigDAVID,
it's interesting, the song today could be written about the chinese

the west will only be free of them when there's nothing left to sell us or we start manufacturing the things we need our selves, they've captured us financially

mr. bragg is a socialist, but he also writes one hell of a love song

as for the narcotict line, he was referring to the belief that the cia was fully aware and possibly involved in drug sales from south america, helping to purchase american made weapons for various rebel and government armies



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reicat
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 04:36 am
When I think of freedom...
I think of
running in a shopping mall at full speed,
getting work without formality,
surfing!
catching a hot air balloon to work,
driving at high speeds/running red lights/driving through stop signs,
majority doesn't rule,

Expression without repression
 

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