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@okie,

okie, You really don't bother to look at the cause and effect on much do you? Then pop out with some ridiculous cockamamie about "guarantee happiness by dictating loans be made to people..."

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@JPB,

Could be alot of that too. Look, I don't profess to know everything about this, but my gut tells me it is lack of accountability and liberal policies, plain and simple. Republicans are not immune, and they do not always act conservatively.

If investments are not insured or guaranteed, I say let them fail, let the people say goodbye to the money.

Interesting right now, Rush is now telling about an insiders view of what happened at the White House, from somebody that was there, and Obama was given some leadership role in addressing the negotiations, and he bombed out totally. The meeting was a complete bomb. His leadership skills were shown to be a complete bomb.

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@okie,

okie, Your myopia is getting tiresome; most of those who were in that meeting said McCain didn't offer anything during the meeting, except he wanted credit for the work already done by the congress and the committee, and that wasted two-three hours of the meetings time.

Get your head out of your arse.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Could be alot of that too. Look, I don't profess to know everything about this, but my gut tells me it is lack of accountability and liberal policies, plain and simple. Republicans are not immune, and they do not always act conservatively.

If investments are not insured or guaranteed, I say let them fail, let the people say goodbye to the money.

Interesting right now, Rush is now telling about an insiders view of what happened at the White House, from somebody that was there, and Obama was given some leadership role in addressing the negotiations, and he bombed out totally. The meeting was a complete bomb. His leadership skills were shown to be a complete bomb.

Hhahahaa

Yeah, let's go with El Rushbo's account of what happened. Okie. C'mon.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Rush is much more credible than you, cyclops. At least I get closer to reality than reading your posts.

By the way, the Dems announced a deal was done in principle, but it was a lie, a big fat lie, to posture the idea that McCain wasn't needed. The Dems are playing politics, and they also want something quick to avoid investigations into how this problem really occurred. And by getting a deal quick, they suck more Republicans into the irresponsible games they have been playing and intend to obfiscate by continuing to play it.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Rush is much more credible than you, cyclops. At least I get closer to reality than reading your posts.

By the way, the Dems announced a deal was done in principle, but it was a lie, a big fat lie, to posture the idea that McCain wasn't needed. The Dems are playing politics, and they also want something quick to avoid investigations into how this problem really occurred. And by getting a deal quick, they suck more Republicans into the irresponsible games they have been playing and intend to obfiscate by continuing to play it.

Oh, really? He's the one who keeps claiming that Obama is an 'arab' instead of African. You know as well as I do that this is incorrect. You call that credible?

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Cyclo, We just need to "consider the source." okie is all hat and no....

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@OCCOM BILL,

OCCOM BILL wrote:

If memory serves; every erroneous point you made on the subject of communism was disproved by at least 3 different members. You made it vividly clear that you don't know the difference between socialism and communism. When it comes to communism, you choose to remain deliberately obtuse. Per your request; I once answered every question raised by PM, only to have it completely ignored. Talk about a waste of energy. At any rate; it will forever remain idiotic for an advocate of communism to chastise an American conservative over his use the words "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

How am I an advocate of communism if I believe it's doomed to fail? Since you like to pretend your such a historian on this dialog, I'm sure your memory could serve you to tell me what my main points on communism were.

It seems that you are arguing against what you want my argument to be, not what I'm actually saying.

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Okie - The debate on whether or not homosexuality is nature or nurture is certainly a large one. The statement about the lifestyle being a choice is true, however, irrelevant. Do you think that you should have to defend your choice of lifestyle? Should a Christian have to defend their beliefs in what is unproven while a homosexual has to prove a gender identity? You'd have to prove that a gay lifestyle is invalid. I'm sure you think you could make that argument, but I don't think you can. (I'd love to hear it if you think you can. Start another thread, I would follow you.) You say it's not about happiness, but the pursuit of it. I agree, and that's why things like defining marriage (a power unrelated to governing), serving in the army, inheritance to a partner should be allowed. They don't make some guarantee of happiness, but to deny someone the opportunity to pursue these things is just discrimination.

As for Bush, I made no mention of him. He certainly was a part of the things that I listed, but I don't give him the full blame. Perhaps we are ore safe today. I cannot pretend to know an alternative to history, nor can you. Perhaps we are more in danger because of our choices. Either way, what I do know is that we have shown we are willing to trade civil rights for a sense of security. You may be okay with that trade, but it wasn't your civil rights which would have ever been challenged.

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@Diest TKO,

Diest TKO- Beware of people who think they can tell you what Communism is all about. Just as most people do not really understand the hopelessness and fury felt by the poor and minorities in the USA, the theorists really don't know what Communism was all about in the Soviet Union.

I will never ever forget my meeting with an old man at a party who was being hectored by a brash young idealist. The idealist indicated that he thought that Solzhenistyn's Gulag books were overblown.

The old man replied--How do you know? Were you there? I was and unless you were there you know nothing about it.

Most of the "scholarly" experts on Communism never lived under the system.

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@barackman28,

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Massagatto!

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@joefromchicago,

joefromchicago wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Massagatto!

Really? I thought that was Parker Cross.

Cycloptichorn

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@joefromchicago,

He's camouflaged himself pretty well. LOL

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@Cycloptichorn,

He is a man of many disguises.

http://berealct.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/possum.jpg

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@joefromchicago,

Really? It is RACISTS like you who do not allow people to support Barack Obama? Who are you? A desperate right wing Illinois Republican.

I will continue to back up Senator Obama until he becomes president of the United States.

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@barackman28,

http://ilovecary.com/images/possum_in_bucket.jpg

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@barackman28,

barackman28 wrote:

Really? It is RACISTS like you who do not allow people to support Barack Obama? Who are you? A desperate right wing Illinois Republican.

I will continue to back up Senator Obama until he becomes president of the United States.

You've overplayed your hand.

Good eye, joe

Cycloptichorn

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@barackman28,

barackman28 wrote:

Really? It is RACISTS like you who do not allow people to support Barack Obama? Who are you? A desperate right wing Illinois Republican.

I will continue to back up Senator Obama until he becomes president of the United States.

Damn... ignorance like this only comes around what, every 1000 days?

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@Cycloptichorn,

Well, I invite you to take my posts and. like a good debater that you consider yourself to be, show me where I am wrong. I assure you that I can go to the site of Senator Barack Obama to find evidence that I am not distorting his views.

Or perhaps you are unable to do that because you know I have the documentation.

You have been challenged!

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Damn... ignorance like this only comes around what, every 1000 days?

If only it were that infrequent.

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