firefly
 
  5  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:18 am
@H2O MAN,
She is a good chice--to generate media attention in a campaign. That doesn't mean she's a good choice to actually function as VP.
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:22 am
@firefly,
Now you know how a growing number of folks feel about Obama.

Obama is great for media attention, but he's not a good choice to actually function as president.
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:37 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Biden said Palin is an excellent choice, an even better choice for VP than himself.


My bad ... Biden said Hillary would have been a better choice than himself.
Either way, Obama is toast!
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revel
 
  2  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 06:52 am
Quote:
Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate sent a signal that he would end business as usual and cronyism in government. Her record shows the Alaska governor engaged in some of the same practices she and McCain now condemn.

Palin's office approved a state job for a friend and campaign aide with whom she shared a land investment, financial records and interviews over the past two weeks show. She hired a former lobbyist for a pipeline company to help oversee a multibillion-dollar deal with that same company.

She named a police chief accused of harassment to head the state police. And she sent campaign e-mails on her city hall account while serving as mayor of Wasilla -- conduct for which she later turned in an oil commissioner on ethics charges.

These incidents raise ``some serious questions about her judgment and serious questions about her standards of ethics in public service,'' said James Thurber, director of American University's Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies in Washington. Suggesting a real estate investment partner for a job ``may be acceptable in Alaska; it would not be acceptable in Washington, D.C., a place whose norms she wants to change.''

Palin defeated an incumbent governor, a fellow Republican, in 2006 charging that her party's old guard had committed ethical lapses and become too cozy with special interests, including oil companies. A central theme in this year's presidential campaign has been that Palin's record demonstrates the change a McCain administration would bring to Washington.

Recent statements by the governor may erode that claim. In her acceptance speech last week, she suggested that she opposed the infamous ``Bridge to Nowhere,'' a $223 million earmark for a bridge to an island where only 53 people lived.

For It, Against It

When Palin, 44, campaigned for governor, however, she said she was in favor of the bridge. In 2007, she canceled the project in the face of national outrage. The state never returned the money allocated by the federal government, with some of the funds going toward other state and local projects.

And as mayor of Wasilla, a job she held for six years until 2002, Palin hired lobbyists to get federal funding for local projects. Wasilla secured $27 million in earmarks for the town of about 9,000 that included a rail project and a youth center.

Shortly after she was elected governor, Palin's office signed off on hiring Deborah Richter -- who attended college for a year then worked in bookkeeping and finance jobs -- as director of a division that distributes dividends to Alaskans from the state's oil-wealth savings account.

Richter, who said she's known Palin for 13 years, was Palin's gubernatorial campaign treasurer and ran her inaugural committee.

Sharing an Investment

The Richters and Palins also shared an investment: 30 acres of rural property near a lake in Petersville, Alaska, worth $47,300, according to Matanuska-Susitna Borough data.

``It sounds like a patronage deal for someone who ran your campaign; that's pretty normal,'' said Bill Buzenberg, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity in Washington. ``What's not normal is that they have business dealings together.''

No evidence has emerged to suggest that laws were broken in the appointment, and Richter said she ``didn't go in there with any promises from the governor or the chief of staff or anybody. I turned in my resume'' to the governor's transition team ``and I didn't know if anyone was going to call me.''

``She was qualified,'' said Pat Galvin, commissioner of the Department of Revenue and Richter's boss. Galvin said he also interviewed other people for the job and that Richter has done well. He said Palin's office approved his selection of Richter.

Not Palin's Decision

Palin's gubernatorial spokesman, William McAllister, said the decision to hire Richter was Galvin's. ``I have no knowledge of land ownership or college degrees,'' he said.

Deborah Richter gave up her share of the property last September in a divorce settlement that followed an affair with Palin's legislative director, John Bitney. Bitney and Richter both acknowledged the affair in interviews. Bitney said Palin fired him over it; Richter is still on the job. They are now married.

Last month, Palin signed a law granting TransCanada Corp., Canada's largest pipeline company, an exclusive state license and up to $500 million in subsidies to proceed with work on a $27 billion pipeline, which would carry natural gas from Alaska to other U.S. markets.

Once a Lobbyist

Marty Rutherford, the chief coordinator behind Palin's pipeline effort, once worked as an Alaska lobbyist for a TransCanada pipeline subsidiary, according to state records. Rutherford, deputy commissioner at the Alaska Department of Natural Resources, earned $40,200 as a lobbyist for 10 months in 2003 working for Foothills, the subsidiary.

Rutherford said in an interview that she only did consulting work for the company, including reviewing natural gas legislation. She said the work had no bearing on her future job as coordinator of Palin's pipeline team.

``I intended to leave state government when I went to Jade North, but as time went on I realized my heart was in government,'' she said, referring to the firm she briefly worked for.

Palin told the Anchorage Daily News last December that Rutherford's work with Foothills wasn't a conflict because it had been five years earlier.

Trooper Investigation

The governor already has triggered an investigation by the Alaska legislature into whether she fired the state commissioner of public safety, Walt Monegan, for not removing a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce from Palin's sister.

Palin has denied exerting any pressure on Monegan and said she dismissed him because she wanted to take the department in a new direction.

Since McCain picked Palin, seven Palin aides have declined to be interviewed on the matter by an investigator hired by the Alaska legislature, according to the House and Senate Judiciary committees.

Earlier this year, Palin found herself apologizing for her handling of Monegan's replacement. About six weeks before she learned McCain wanted her to be his vice president, she named Kenai, Alaska, police chief Charles Kopp to replace Monegan.

On July 25, two weeks after being appointed, Kopp resigned amid scrutiny over a 2005 sexual-harassment complaint against him while he was chief in Kenai. The complaint resulted in a letter of reprimand from the city, which Palin told reporters she never knew about and had believed that the allegations were unsubstantiated, according to the Anchorage Daily News.

Not a Harasser

In a July press conference, Kopp denied any harassment. ``I've always done every job I've ever done with honor and integrity,'' he said. ``There is one thing I am not. I am not a sex harasser.'' Attempts to reach him were unsuccessful.

Asked about these episodes in Palin's career, McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds lauded her reform efforts. Bounds said Palin has allowed the public to scrutinize state financial information, ``cut wasteful spending by a quarter of a billion dollars just last year and ushered in landmark ethics legislation.''

The moment that crystallized her image as a reformer came when she turned in state Republican chairman Randy Ruedrich after discovering he was using his state e-mail account to conduct party business.

Palin and Ruedrich were serving together as commissioners on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, a state regulatory agency, at the time. Ruedrich resigned from the commission in November 2003, and was later fined $12,000, according to a 2004 article in the Anchorage Daily News.

In 2006, Palin found herself asking forgiveness for a similar offense from her past, according to a July 28, 2006, article in the Anchorage Daily News. She had sent campaign e- mails from her Wasilla mayor's office in 2002, when she made an unsuccessful run for lieutenant governor.

``For any mistakes like that (were) made, I apologize,'' Palin said of the e-mail controversy in July 2006, according to the Anchorage Daily News.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080911/pl_bloomberg/alulrclkxig4
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 07:08 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

DrewDad wrote:
If you mean partisan as in promoting the interests of its members, then you are correct.

According to who? That is the point.

According to the secret cabal that controls America. Rolling Eyes
McGentrix
 
  0  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 07:15 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

Quote:
do you believe that it's appropriate to charge Per Diem travel expenses when you are staying at home?


In Alaska, yes I do. In New York, no I don't.



Quote:
Alaskans See No Scandal in Palin's Routine Travel Reimbursements

Wednesday, September 10, 2008
By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor

The Washington Post on Tuesday ran a front-page story about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin receiving $16,951 in travel reimbursements, including a per diem travel allowance for members of her family, and for sometimes staying in her home as part of official business. But Alaskans who follow politics told CNSNews.com that such action is standard practice.
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nimh
 
  3  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 07:45 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Newsweek is hilarious. [..] is it any accident the article at the top has the word "cancer" in it. Those losers are so pathetically transparent. I dropped my newsweek subscription years ago.

Oh god yeah. The magazine has a cover story on Palin, and another major story on cancer - and they put both things on the cover!

Coincidence? I think not!

It's obvious that it's all a liberal media plot to connect "Palin" with "cancer".

Never mind that the same Newsweek this week posted an extensive fact-check of liberal claims on Palin, called "Sliming Palin", which was posted on a bunch of threads here by conservatives. That means nothing. That doesnt count. Putting a story on cancer on the same cover they've got Palin on - now that's the part that's betrays what it's all about.
okie
 
  1  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 09:30 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
According to the secret cabal that controls America. Rolling Eyes

No, according to a bunch of lib do gooders, holier than thou Democrat leaning people that are so arrogant as to believe they have all the right answers for all old people, when they don't.
okie
 
  0  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 09:34 am
@nimh,
nimh, I took Newsweek for years, so you aren't going to educate me on that rag magazine. I put up with their cover stories for years, with terrible photos on the front, of people they don't like, and terribly slanted stories inside, purported to be balanced. It became a joke when I went to get the mail, just to see what kind of a photo they could splash on the cover, to further their liberal viewpoints and insult conservative viewpoints. I carried it for a long time, just to get an overview of their thinking on the news events each week, but simply had too much of it for too long.

The magazine is a joke. And I canceled my subscription years ago. It is worthless as a balanced news source. And after years of reading it, yes, I do not believe for one minute that the cancer word on the front with Palin was any accident, no way. Everything they do is planned, especially covers.
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cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 10:11 am
@firefly,
But more importantly as president; why not put any GOP mom with five young children on the GOP ticket - just make sure she wears lipstick and huge glasses.

Maybe, it won't hurt if she ran in a beauty contest in her past, and has a shrill voice and tells lies.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 10:14 am
@cicerone imposter,
You are a small man ci Rolling Eyes
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okie
 
  1  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 10:57 am
@cicerone imposter,
Winning a beauty contest is in my view preferable to a candidate being claimed to be like Jesus, that Jesus was a community organizer. Come on ci, you are a reasonable guy sometimes, wake up! Where do the Democrats find these people?????????

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/10/kossified-congressman-obama-was-a-community-organizer-like-jesus/
mysteryman
 
  1  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 11:02 am
@cicerone imposter,
Now you are starting to sound stupid.
Your dem friends in SC have already beat you to it, by claiming that Sarah Palins primary qualification is the fact that she "hasn’t had an abortion.”

That comes from SC Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler.
Now tell me, even you have to admit that is an extremely stupid and irresponsible thing to say, or do you think she is right?

http://www.electiongeek.com/blog/2008/09/10/sc-dem-chair-palin-primary-qualification-she-didnt-have-abortion/
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 11:06 am
@okie,
Have you considered the possibility that most older people are Democrat-leaning lib do-gooders, and that you're just weird?
DrewDad
 
  2  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 11:11 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Winning a beauty contest is in my view preferable to a candidate being claimed to be like Jesus, that Jesus was a community organizer. Come on ci, you are a reasonable guy sometimes, wake up! Where do the Democrats find these people?????????

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/10/kossified-congressman-obama-was-a-community-organizer-like-jesus/

1. "The candidate" did not claim to be like Jesus.
2. Are you claiming that Jesus was not a community organizer?
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 11:17 am
@DrewDad,
Most older folks are leaning to the right.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/2416683139_a4378dd5b9.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 11:39 am
@DrewDad,
Also, didn't jesus have 12 apostles to help him with his good works?
Debra Law
 
  3  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 12:45 pm
It is being reported that Mayor Palin wanted Wasilla rape victims to pay for the rape kit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVchE_srp8

Debra Law
 
  1  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 12:54 pm
ABC reports that Palin's firing of the commissioner draws criticism from women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5hpJKuh-s
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 11 Sep, 2008 01:13 pm
@Debra Law,
Did Bill Clinton had out rape kits to the women he raped?
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