Lies, foibles and misrepresentations of Howard Dean.

To quote Prince George in Blackadder III:
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PDiddie wrote:

"... extraordinarily petty and partisan-hack-like, to run from the Clark thread to the Dean thread and back spewing venom.

Especially with Bush's track record.

What's it's not is a surprise, as those of us on the left have come to expect no less from those on the right.

But you go ahead on, sweetie. I really don't blame you for giving up defending the administration, anyway. Their actions have been indefensible for some time now.

PDiddie,

Bien dicho!

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The Era of Bill Clinton Is Over
Howard Dean triangulates the triangulator.

Dean's speech doesn't libel Clinton; it plagiarizes him.

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Whopper: Howard Dean
Oh, that bizarre and irresponsible remark!

Incidentally, on Fox News Sunday, Dean wasn't asked "why I thought the president was withholding information" or "something like that." He was asked (by Chris Wallace) why he'd made that embarrassing gaffe on Diane Rehm, and whether, in light of what he'd said, he was "up to being commander in chief." Wallace even played the Diane Rehm clip. Two days earlier, Charles Krauthammer had savagely attacked Dean for what he said on Diane Rehm and pointed out that when Cynthia McKinney made the same accusation in 2002 it ended her career in Congress. So, it's inconceivable that in his New Hampshire debate remarks Dean sincerely forgot, or misremembered, what he said on Diane Rehm.

Ironically, if Dean had answered Rehm's question more carefully, he could have stated truthfully and non-hysterically that the Bush administration did receive various hints prior to 9/11 that something was afoot. These have already been documented. (Remember National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice's description of pre-9/11 "chatter in the system," including a warning from the Federal Aviation Administration in July that terrorist groups might be planning hijackings?) Where Dean went astray was in failing to make clear that these advance warnings were not very specific.
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Keep 'em comin', doc. :wink:

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Get the Barf Bag out. Dean has started warming up his black pattens for the Hawkward Shuffle.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2092520/Dean Dancin' Right.

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So, Sofia,would you care to give us the sources for the first two posts?

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They're all from Slate, dear. Saletan wrote the articles, and the Whopper of the Week (at Slate) features a different victim each week. It is a left leaning e-publication, with writers of mixed political leanings.

Micheal Kinsey (so LEFT) is the Managing Editor.

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thanks.

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Click the last link Sofia gave (Dean Dancin Right) and you'll find an interesting new report there now: "Is Dean Toast? Saddam's capture doesn't guarantee Bush's re-election."

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Have fun
Dubya and his gang of bungling thieves are sacking America and turning it into a 3rd world Hunta. This election will be down and dirty. It has started already. I see it here and all over the Net and Off Net. The only right left will be to carry guns. That might be a mistake.

Last post on this thread. Have fun.

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Sofia wrote:

Get the Barf Bag out. Dean has started warming up his black pattens for the Hawkward Shuffle.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2092520/Dean Dancin' Right.

Actually ... I got to read it now, and the ironic thing is - the article as a whole is pretty negative on the guy, right? But if Dean himself would succeed in summarizing his case in as clear, spot-on (and correct) manner as this article does in the paragraph below, he'd be sure to win points:

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That's the crux of Dean's case: The real threats to the United States are global terrorism and WMD, and the Iraq war addressed neither. Saddam's terror connections and weapons programs were more than zero but less than what other regimes had. To that extent, the war was a net loss, since it consumed resources that could have been used more efficiently to fight terrorism or WMD elsewhere, and it antagonized countries whose help we needed in those pursuits. Ousting Saddam was good for the Kurds, the Shiites, and probably for the nations bordering Iraq. But it wasn't essential to the security of the United States.

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Nimh--
I think you'll see the case made very clearly by Bush during the campaign--that the world is already adjusting in the wake of the war--that former terrorists like Qaddafi are no longer secure in their murder and WMD production, and the dominoes are falling toward a more peaceable ME because of the first step taken by Bush.

At any rate, Dean has waffled and misspoken so many times about what he would have done--no one will believe him.

Nimh's quote from the article stated:

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Saddam's terror connections and weapons programs were more than zero but less than what other regimes had

Be careful with slants and editorializing like this. This is not proven fact.

Bush will go into the debates armed to the teeth with knowledge about security, while Dean hardly has basic info. No one will trust that man with National Security.

Believe it or not, the Iraq War DID address global and National Security, in my opinion and in the opinion of what will be a majority of voters.

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Sofia wrote:

Nimh's quote from the article stated:

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Saddam's terror connections and weapons programs were more than zero but less than what other regimes had

Be careful with slants and editorializing like this. This is not proven fact.

Believe it or not, the Iraq War DID address global and National Security, in my opinion and in the opinion of what will be a majority of voters.

1. It is proven fact.
2. Good thing you said that that was your opinion.

In terms of what other regimes have had, and have, in weapons programs and terror connections, I'd suggest you read more international media - from all sides of the political spectrum.

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ehBeth--
You are unaware of my reading habits. I also know opinion and slant from fact. The fact of how far-reaching Saddam's weapons program and terror connections have not been closed as a subject as of yet.

Now that he is in custody, the facts will most likely begin coming out. No matter what these facts are, I will accept them--if they can be proven. Until then, I wait for the facts.

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Good thing you said that that was your opinion

This should show I know fact from opinion.... Now, maybe you should learn.

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Sofia wrote:

The fact of how far-reaching Saddam's weapons program and terror connections have not been closed as a subject as of yet.

But the absence of any evidence of their existence is pretty telling.

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Now that he is in custody, the facts will most likely begin coming out. No matter what these facts are, I will accept them--if they can be proven. Until then, I wait for the facts.

Even if they contradict your preconceptions? I would love for eveidence of actual WMD to be found, because this would lend a small amount of credibility to what has instead seemed an exercise in imperialism.

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Sofia wrote:

Bush will go into the debates armed to the teeth with knowledge about security, while Dean hardly has basic info. No one will trust that man with National Security.

In that post full of hilarity, this is the most hilarious. Laughing

Four years ago, Bush didn't know the President of Pakistan's name.

Happy Holidays, Sofia. :wink:

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Yeah, and likely thought Kurdistan is a county in Wisconsin . . .

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The lack of evidence has been disconcerting, and has given me pause--but I am waiting for something definitive.
Waiting...<broil>...<looks at watch>...

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PDiddie wrote:

Sofia wrote:
Bush will go into the debates armed to the teeth with knowledge about security, while Dean hardly has basic info. No one will trust that man with National Security.

In that post full of hilarity, this is the most hilarious.

Four years ago, Bush didn't know the President of Pakistan's name.

Happy Holidays, Sofia. :wink:

Four months ago, Dean didn't know where the US had service personnel stationed....Nobody knows everything...(except possibly you and I)(Maybe Setanta...)
Glad you can smile...
<Dean has committed hari-kari, attacking Clinton. His temper is starting to trip him up, finally...>
Meanwhile, Bush has learned all his graduate geography just in time! Laughing

Happy Holidays, PDiddie! Very Happy

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