perception perceptively wrote--
Quote:Oh, I'm confident Sophia fully understands the implications of a Dean candidacy for the Dems and the inevitable comparisons to McGovern in 1972----I suspect Sophia merely intends to keep the record straight for those who have their heads in the sand.
I also believe Sophia will be to polite to remind you when Dean follows McGoverns ignominious example.
Oh, yeah. I pasted an edited view on the subject from another location, here.
It is my opinion that the Dems are setting themselves up for another national embarrassment--like the lopsided Dukakis defeat--
The Dem activists, the ones who we are hearing from on this board, and in the media, occupy the left hinterlands of the party. Certainly nothing wrong with that. But, as I've seen the media warn, and as some of us have said on the A2K forum-- these further-left Dems are pushing forward a candidate, who is at least percieved to be too left and unpalatable to the centrists who put men in the White House. One, who will wow them in the primaries, and win maybe one state in the general. McGovern and Dukakis speak clearly on the subject.
I've been thumbing through polls, and despite the unprovability of WMDs and continuing loss of life in Iraq, 63% of the public still (as of this month) support the war, and think it was the right thing to do. Insulting Bush for the war insults the majority of Americans. I can't see this tack of Dean's winning votes, other than his hard core base--who don't have the numbers to win a general election.
Additionally, this country is loathe to trust Dems--especially one, who has made major blunders in military information, such as Dean--when there are troops in the field.
I still believe until the Dems put together a cohesive identity to the voting public, they are just a minor option to the ruling party. The 2002 mid terms meant something big. The South voting out Max Cleland and putting Republicans in key governorships, one being the first since Reconstruction-- signalled a serious departure from politics as usual. Since 2002, the Dems have been an extreme underdog, in my view, and should have been very busy in self-examination, re-evaluation and change.
Some may say they have, and they decided to move left and be independant of their tendancy to 'act like Republicans', but I haven't seen anything to show a rebirth. And, the thing is--if they
have decided to move left to assume a new identity, it will be a while before the masses feel safe following them. They need someone with tested military prowess, or at least demonstable knowledge of foreign affairs, and the perception that they will make the tough call, if warranted.
Closing--the centrists poll on the side of the 'war as necessity', and in Bush's war decisions, though they are concerned about the economy. They also poll as their number one priority being national security. This goes neatly into Bush's column.
Barring some unforeseen event, Bush should win handily. To me, the man has made excellent decisions, but his personality and mannerisms make him seem like a weaker candidate than he is.
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I'm sure everyone will agree.

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