"New Politics"? Hah.

I don't know what education has to do with any of this or, for that matter, how you could possibly determine the education level of people posting on anonymous message board absent them telling you.

What I have been arguing is whether it's reasonable to consider Obama better than Hillary or McCain. Not perfect, not saintly, but a better candidate for the presidency than either of them. I think that's reasonable, and not justifiably dismissed as being "caught up in the hype."

rabel22 wrote:

No? People like CI and left eye seem to get real upset when some undereducated person like me points out that an education does not mean that you are smarter than those around you. It only means you have a piece of paper that states you completed 4 years or so of requirements for the compilation of a course in school. It dose not mean you really know what you are doing.

I for one don't get upset when you 'point that out.'

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

rabel22 wrote:

No? People like CI and left eye seem to get real upset when some undereducated person like me points out that an education does not mean that you are smarter than those around you. It only means you have a piece of paper that states you completed 4 years or so of requirements for the compilation of a course in school. It dose not mean you really know what you are doing.

I for one don't get upset when you 'point that out.'

Cycloptichorn

No, you get snotty.

FreeDuck wrote:

I don't know what education has to do with any of this or, for that matter, how you could possibly determine the education level of people posting on anonymous message board absent them telling you.

Spot on!

cicerone imposter wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:

I don't know what education has to do with any of this or, for that matter, how you could possibly determine the education level of people posting on anonymous message board absent them telling you.

Spot on!

That's rich. You join with Cyclo in insulting rabel, and then "hear-hear" Freeduck's rebuke (of who?)

If you had you would find that I did attend some collage to implement my job as an electrician with the equivalent of 2 years of collage education. No piece of paper telling everyone how much smarter than them I am. I did work along side many so called engineers who couldn't wipe their a-s without help, thus the lack of respect for collage education. Paper dosent an education make.

rabel22 wrote:

If you had you would find that I did attend some collage to implement my job as an electrician with the equivalent of 2 years of collage education. No piece of paper telling everyone how much smarter than them I am. I did work along side many so called engineers who couldn't wipe their a-s without help, thus the lack of respect for collage education. Paper dosent an education make.

Be cool brother.

You don't need to defend your education to anyone in this forum.

The fact that someone has a bachelors, masters or doctorates degree is by no means proof that they are more intelligent, more knowledgable, or even better educated than you.

It also doesn't mean they make more money than you. I may be mistaken but I believe Bill Gates had about as much of a college education as you.

There's certainly nothing wrong with extensive formal education, and degrees do signify a level of accomplishment, but these days, bachelor degrees are a penny a dozen and anyone with half a brain and the willpower to lay off drugs and booze (to excess) can get one.

Masters ain't that much harder to achieve, including MBAs.

My brother has his Phd, and while I love and respect him, he's not a genius, and he makes a whole lot less than me.

There are people who love to learn and these are the folks who get my respect. It really doesn't matter whether they learn in a formal or informal environment. The former spend more money and get a certificate that actually is worth something, but the latter get a less biased education.

Just because Cyclo can demand a cookie for running into Noam Chomsky at Berkely the other day, clearly doesn't signify that he is any more or less equipped than you to debate these topics.

A truly educated person knows the extent of his ignorance and would never lord his inadequate accomplishments over another.

BTW - No one would have discerned by your posts that the extent of your formal education did not reach a degree level. Either you previously told Cyclo you didn't have a degree (in which case he was being a snotty shite) or he was (as a snotty shite) trying to bait you.

Either way, eff him and the horse (CI?) he rode in on.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

rabel22 wrote:

If you had you would find that I did attend some collage to implement my job as an electrician with the equivalent of 2 years of collage education. No piece of paper telling everyone how much smarter than them I am. I did work along side many so called engineers who couldn't wipe their a-s without help, thus the lack of respect for collage education. Paper dosent an education make.

Be cool brother.

You don't need to defend your education to anyone in this forum.

The fact that someone has a bachelors, masters or doctorates degree is by no means proof that they are more intelligent, more knowledgable, or even better educated than you.

It also doesn't mean they make more money than you. I may be mistaken but I believe Bill Gates had about as much of a college education as you.

There's certainly nothing wrong with extensive formal education, and degrees do signify a level of accomplishment, but these days, bachelor degrees are a penny a dozen and anyone with half a brain and the willpower to lay off drugs and booze (to excess) can get one.

Masters ain't that much harder to achieve, including MBAs.

My brother has his Phd, and while I love and respect him, he's not a genius, and he makes a whole lot less than me.

There are people who love to learn and these are the folks who get my respect. It really doesn't matter whether they learn in a formal or informal environment. The former spend more money and get a certificate that actually is worth something, but the latter get a less biased education.

Just because Cyclo can demand a cookie for running into Noam Chomsky at Berkely the other day, clearly doesn't signify that he is any more or less equipped than you to debate these topics.

A truly educated person knows the extent of his ignorance and would never lord his inadequate accomplishments over another.

BTW - No one would have discerned by your posts that the extent of your formal education did not reach a degree level. Either you previously told Cyclo you didn't have a degree (in which case he was being a snotty shite) or he was (as a snotty shite) trying to bait you.

Either way, eff him and the horse (CI?) he rode in on.

The funny thing is, I didn't bring up his education; I didn't bring up anyone's education at all. It was Rabel himself who complained about those with college degrees acting in a fashion he didn't like. I brought up the fact that he comes off as a bitter old guy who likes to bitch about stuff online, with frequency. I never claimed anything about college educations, intelligence, earning potential, or anything of the sort in this thread, other then to say that there seems to be a persistent meme amongst many who lack college degrees, that a degree of education makes one less knowledgeable on subjects, or about 'real life.' I would advise Rabel to avoid the topic if he doesn't wish for people to respond to his attacks.

You are basically, as usual, talking out your ass. And frankly I think the fact that you've read far more into my comments then was written to be pretty revealing of a sense of inadequacy on your part. Or maybe you're just a dick. Either one is likely.

Cycloptichorn

No, it isn't.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

No, it isn't.

Cycloptichorn

You're like a child: "I know you are, but what am I?"

No I'm not.

Your posts to Cyclo aren't exactly mature either, Mr kettle.

It is amazing how often you have to argue that people like me and rabel are reading more into your comments.