Fear of a Black President

McCain doesn't need any help to bring him down; his senility is showing up more often as we get closer to November. His desperation isn't helping his campaign any either.

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All those righties making the charge that the liberals are the "tax and spend" party needs to read about McCain's latest flip-flop.
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McCain backs off his no-new-tax pledge

By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Tue Jul 29, 10:29 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate John McCain's signal that he may be open to a higher payroll tax for Social Security, despite previous vows not to raise taxes of any kind, is drawing sharp rebukes from conservatives.

McCain's shift has come in stages, catching some Republicans by surprise. Speaking with reporters on his campaign bus on July 9, he cited a need to shore up Social Security. "I cannot tell you what I would do, except to put everything on the table," he said.

He went a step farther Sunday on ABC's "This Week," in response to a question about payroll tax increases.

"There is nothing that's off the table. I have my positions, and I'll articulate them. But nothing's off the table," McCain said. "I don't want tax increases. But that doesn't mean that anything is off the table."

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snood wrote:

H2O_MAN wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
The RNC and McCain spent over 15 million on TV ads in July alone and the numbers didn't budge a bit...

Considering the big 3 were in bed with Obama and totally ignoring McCain
in hopes that his numbers would drop out of sight, the RNC made a wise
investment. McCain's numbers didn't drop, they are actually going up.

Are you saying there's a conspiracy to keep McCain down?

No, but if there is as you say, "a conspiracy to keep McCain down" - it's failing badly.

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Wealth has rarely remained the same (e.g., caves versus houses, horses versus automobiles.

The number of Americans who successfully obtain college degrees, and own their own businesses, mansions, private jets, yachts, motorcycles, automobiles, trucks, swimming pools, vacation homes, air conditioners, TVs, computers, washers, dryers, freezers, refrigerators, riding lawn mowers, and frequently travel the world, has greatly increased since 1850.

Clearly, Americans now own much more property of various kinds than they use to.

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Yes, many own "those" things, but many are also losing their jobs and homes. 47 million more Americans are without health care; which is more important, a washing machine or health care?

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Zero Americans are without health care, but many lack health insurance.

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H2O_MAN wrote:

Zero Americans are without health care, but many lack health insurance.

Are you just desperate for attention? What else could motivate stupidity like this?

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Somebody get some oil, he pip is squeaking again.

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Diest TKO wrote:

H2O_MAN wrote:
Zero Americans are without health care, but many lack health insurance.

Are you just desperate for attention? What else could motivate stupidity like this?

Being a complete f*cking moron would be my guess.

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kickycan wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Zero Americans are without health care, but many lack health insurance.

Are you just desperate for attention? What else could motivate stupidity like this?

Being a complete f*cking moron would be my guess.

Word.

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kickycan wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Zero Americans are without health care, but many lack health insurance.

Are you just desperate for attention? What else could motivate stupidity like this?

Being a complete f*cking moron would be my guess.

No need to guess there kickstart, you just confirmed to the world that you are in fact a complete f*cking moron.

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H2O gets his rocks off when all you people get excited about his bull shyt. The way to handle him is to ignore him.

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

Lash wrote:
I think it's an error in thinking Obama should be perched for a landslide--per Edgar and snood. This is (imo) more egocentric wishful thinking than an accurate deduction of the facts. If racism is the reason you cite for no landslide on the horizon, I think--once again--YOU are too focused on race.

There are plenty of reasons he's not perched on a landslide.

Geez.

Really? What are those reasons?

I remind you that he is running a better campaign then McCain, generates far more excitement, has more money, and is winning every state Kerry did plus 8-10 others, depending on the polling day.

That's the sort of stuff which leads to a landslide...

Cycloptichorn

I echo your question! What are those reasons? McCain is a big whiny, "no fair" Wuss!

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rabel22 wrote:

H2O gets his rocks off when all you people get excited about his bull shyt. The way to handle him is to ignore him.

I agree. But don't you think that discussing what a complete idiot he is and ridiculing his idiotic posts while not actually acknowledging or responding to him directly is also fun? He's so obnoxious that I think it's only fair to treat him like the piece of crap that he so ardently aspires to be.

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kickycan wrote:

rabel22 wrote:
H2O gets his rocks off when all you people get excited about his bull shyt. The way to handle him is to ignore him.

I agree. But don't you think that discussing what a complete idiot he is and ridiculing his idiotic posts while not actually acknowledging or responding to him directly is also fun? He's so obnoxious that I think it's only fair to treat him like the piece of crap that he so ardently aspires to be.

Kicky, I know that you love to garden, but in this case, all you do is provide fertilizer for it to grow in and end up with some of the smell covering yourself in the process.

I'd prefer to have you smelling of all that perfume and cologne you drenched your nekked self with. :wink: Actually, I'd rather watch you drench yourself with that stuff; rather than watch you fling someone elses stinky fertilizer around. Laughing

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Butrflynet wrote:

I'd prefer to have you smelling of all that perfume and cologne you drenched your nekked self with. :wink: Actually, I'd rather watch you drench yourself with that stuff;

You win, I can't compete with that Laughing

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Lash wrote:

I just wonder how they assimilate and calculate these things into figures....and do they consider the war aspect? That always tips in the favor of the GOP... I wish I could find some laywoman's explanation.

Here's the actual 10-page report from Macroeconomic Advisors if this kind of wonkish stuff helps you.

http://www.macroadvisers.com/content/Macro_Focus_2008_Presidential_Election_Model.pdf

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The two big things Obama has going for him are he is black--or at least half black--and has a reassuring and marvelous speaking voice.

The ideas Obama recirculates have all been proven failures in the 20th century. High tax rates do not work because they end up stifling the economy and thereby generating less not more revenue. Nationalization of industries doesn't work because it only leads those industries to operational and economic failure. Collectivism (i.e., socialism or communism) doesn't work because it becomes tyrannical and unproductive. Stifling energy production doesn't work because it stifles people's ability to support themselves.

The biq question to be answered is whether or not Obama can convince enough incompetent voters to come vote and win the election for him. McCain's election efforts are unlikely to affect the outcome one way or the other.

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Here's what scares me.

I thought McCain was actually looking pretty decent as the Republican candidate. Not great -- but ok.

Then I discovered that he wants to deregulate the insurance companies.

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/john-mccain.jpg

Duuuuuuude!!!!!!! WTF?????

(affects british accent) Have you gone mad?

You might think George Bush was a Be-Kind-To-Big-Business-Conservative, but even he never went that far.

As for socialized medicine (not that Obama wants to do that), I still don't think it's the answer. At least, I have some serious concerns and reservations about it. I've always thought our system had some holes in it, and definately needs some improvement -- but still has some strong points to it.

But if McCain is serious about this degregulation thing? We're screwed. In fact, we'll be so far beyond Screwed that the light from Screwed will take a hundred years to reach us. Things will be worse than ever.

At least, Obama wants to offer an alternative -- a way for Americans to have affordable insurance independent of their employers. And it's voluntary. And it doesn't involve turning the insurance companies loose in a frenzy of deregulation a la the credit card companies. (Only thing is, I'd like to see some particulars -- an actual dollars and cents figure as to how much it would cost the individual per year -- and I can't seem to find that.)

Obama doesn't scare me. McCain scares me. Deregulation scares me.

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If that's all that scares you, McCain thanks you for your vote.

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