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Fear of a Black President

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 10:18 am
Should we engage in the drilling at issue, can anyone tell me about how much the price of gasoline will decrease?

I think it will be pennies.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 11:02 am
Advocate wrote:
Should we engage in the drilling at issue, can anyone tell me about how much the price of gasoline will decrease?

I think it will be pennies.

The price of gasoline has already decreased with merely the probability that Congress will permit drilling where there are large known reserves not yet drilled. Imagine how much Congress's permission will decrease the price of gasoline when those wells are actually being drilled, and then actually been drilled and lifting oil.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 11:41 am
Advocate wrote:
Should we engage in the drilling at issue, can anyone tell me about how much the price of gasoline will decrease?

I think it will be pennies.

Correct! A barrel dropped by 10 cents and the price dropped by 2!
Where's the fairness! When the oil companies shut down the refineries, they knew exactly what would happen to supply. A no brainer, but most Americans can't figure this out. I just happened to major in economics and watch the trends. Stockbrokers and speculators make thier money this way. :wink:
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 01:40 pm
teenyboone wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Should we engage in the drilling at issue, can anyone tell me about how much the price of gasoline will decrease?

I think it will be pennies.

Correct! A barrel dropped by 10 cents and the price dropped by 2!
Where's the fairness! When the oil companies shut down the refineries, they knew exactly what would happen to supply. A no brainer, but most Americans can't figure this out. I just happened to major in economics and watch the trends. Stockbrokers and speculators make thier money this way. :wink:



And the oil companies make the really big money.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 02:13 pm
teenyboone wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Should we engage in the drilling at issue, can anyone tell me about how much the price of gasoline will decrease?

I think it will be pennies.

Correct! A barrel dropped by 10 cents and the price dropped by 2!
Where's the fairness! When the oil companies shut down the refineries, they knew exactly what would happen to supply. A no brainer, but most Americans can't figure this out. I just happened to major in economics and watch the trends. Stockbrokers and speculators make thier money this way. :wink:


A barrel = 55 gallons. So when the price of a barrel of crude oil drops $1.10, the price of a gallon of crude oil drops $0.02: that is, the price of a gallon of crude oil drops 2 cents.

When the price of a barrel of crude oil = $132, the price of a gallon of crude oil = $2.34. Say about 70% of each gallon of crude oil is refined into gasoline. The rest is used to produce other products. The price of the crude oil to be refined into gasoline would be 70% x $2.34 = $1.66 per gallon.

Add the cost of transporting that crude oil to a refinery, refining it into gasoline, transporting the gasoline, storing it, transporting it again, storing it again in gas station storage tanks, and pumping it into land, water, and air vehicles. Call all that added cost G. Then Add to G the 8% profit (i.e., multiply G by 1.08) on each gallon of gasoline pumped into vehicles, plus the $0.40 tax per gallon of gasoline.

So if the price of gasoline were $3.90 per gallon, what would be the cost G added to the crude oil to get it delivered to the consumer?


G WOULD BE:
1.08 x G = $3.90 - $1.66 - $0.40 = $1.84;
1.08 X G = $1.84;
G = 1.84/1.08 = $1.70

PROFIT, P, added to the cost of delivering one gallon of gasoline to a consumer would be,

P = $1.84 - $1.70 = $0.14.

Gross profit per each one-billion gallons of gasoline delivered to consumers = $0.14 x 1,000,000,000 = $140,000,000.

Assuming a 30% corporate income tax, Net Profit per each one billion gallons of gasoline delivered to consumers = $140,000,000 x (1.0 - 0.3) = $98,000,000.

Taxes paid to the USA government per each one billion gallons of gasoline delivered to consumers = 0.3 x $140,000,000 = $42,000,000.

Not bad for government work! Rolling Eyes
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 02:40 pm
Meanwhile the democrats are moving to raise the federal tax on gasoline with a 40-cent per gallon increase over five years.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 03:34 pm
H2O_MAN wrote:
Meanwhile the democrats are moving to raise the federal tax on gasoline with a 40-cent per gallon increase over five years.


Wow! That would make oil company profits look like peanuts compared to federal government profits.


But that is exactly what the Democrats want. They want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 05:06 pm
H2O_MAN wrote:
Diest TKO wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Diest TKO wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Think of drilling as an ouch-less band-aid.


Band-aids don't cure things, genius.



Lose the chip on your shoulder pipsqueak.


Maybe I should put a band-aid on my shoulder.




Maybe you should learn to read pipsqueak.


Nice comeback. Rolling Eyes

I love how you don't have any real political points here or any thread for that matter. If drilling was a band-aid, it would not be an ouch-less one. It would be a band-aid put over a wound to large to cover, and would still become infected in the same amount of time. Real solutions are going to have to be more long term. We can leave the band aid on for a bit, but we are going to have to remove it after a while to apply real medicine. You're only lying to the US, like you would a child, if you tell them it will be "ouch-less."

We should have been investing in alternative energies ages ago. We should have used our American ingenuity's to be the cutting edge in method and legislation.

I don't know what kind of first aid you practice.

T
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 05:18 pm
ican wrote: But that is exactly what the Democrats want. They want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.

How much do you want to bet on your stupid opinion that the democrats will nationalize the USA oil industry?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 05:18 pm
Wow!

You really gave my comment alot of undue thought because my
blatant tongue-in-cheek comment went right over your head.

Nothing we do will be ouch-less.

Now take a few deep breaths and relax - m'kay Cool
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 05:20 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:

How much do you want to bet on your stupid opinion that the democrats will nationalize the USA oil industry?


The idea that they want to do this is troubling, but I don't think
we the people would let them succeed if they tried for real.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 05:39 pm
Do you have any support that the Dems would like a government takeover? Personally, I would welcome it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 05:41 pm
Advocate wrote:
Do you have any support that the Dems would like a government takeover? Personally, I would welcome it.



Only if we get first debs on the Iraqi oil.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 06:45 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Do you have any support that the Dems would like a government takeover? Personally, I would welcome it.



Only if we get first debs on the Iraqi oil.


How would any of this help reduce our need for foreign oil?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2008 07:09 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican wrote: But that is exactly what the Democrats want. They want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.

How much do you want to bet on your stupid opinion that the democrats will nationalize the USA oil industry?

Democrats want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to TRY to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 07:59 am
ican711nm wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican wrote: But that is exactly what the Democrats want. They want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.

How much do you want to bet on your stupid opinion that the democrats will nationalize the USA oil industry?

Democrats want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to TRY to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.


You do know, I hope, that the government is us. How does the government make a profit?
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rabel22
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 08:24 am
Advocate
He is admitting that the real government is big business who really run the government, thus making a profit.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 01:28 pm
Advocate wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
ican wrote: But that is exactly what the Democrats want. They want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.

How much do you want to bet on your stupid opinion that the democrats will nationalize the USA oil industry?

Democrats want to increase governent profits at the expense of private profits. If they win sufficiently in November, expect the Democrats to TRY to nationalize the USA oil industry just like that Venezuela gangster did in his country.


You do know, I hope, that the government is us. How does the government make a profit?

It collects money from some of us and gives it to elected and appointed government officials, and also gives it to those of us it thinks most likely capable of being bribed to vote for them.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 04:04 pm
Advocate wrote:
Do you have any support that the Dems would like a government takeover? Personally, I would welcome it.

I second that! Cool
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2008 07:29 pm
teenyboone wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Do you have any support that the Dems would like a government takeover? Personally, I would welcome it.

I second that! Cool

Amazing how many humans want to keep trying nationalization or collectivism or socialism or communism no matter how many times these governmental schemes have proven to be failures.

I think the fundamental mental fixation of these humans is their propensity to covet rather than applaud and root for the accomplishments of others.

Quote:
EXODUS, CHAPTER 20
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house; thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his man servant, nor his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbour's.
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