Witnesses for UFO Congressional hearing

What th'!?! Another UFO thread?

If this is a Sign of the Times, I'm not sure I want to know what it means...

Setanta playing his gameboy ???



Have you thought about perhaps giving some Haldol a shot?

Sounds like fluid is deadly earnest about this!

Ho hum . . . given that there is no physical contact in this realm of dancing electrons, his/her/its deadly earnest is nothing to be concerned with . . . charming the assumptions he/she/it makes about me--and typical of the "true believer" type when questioned on their nonsense: unload a set of denigrating sneers, because there isn't any substantive evidence to present . . .

fluid should definitely pop into chaiyah's posts. She's desperate for an ally.

fluid, you can start here:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11303&highlight=

Lots of information there, and I am sure your contributions would be appreciated.

I don't really think we are getting visited by aliens. I do hear stories with elements of credibility, but the explanations behind them are lacking. My first wife's uncle told me he and his wife were in Arizona far between cities, when an object hovered on the highway before them . He said it shot out a green light and whisked away into the sky. This not many years after a green light of some sort had been reported in California soaring over more than one populated area. To call any of this evidence of aliens does seem far fetched, at least to myself.

There are those who have a vested interest in believing. At least it would seem so!

Just saw your post, Wench, it cracked me up . . .

I rather think that our Fluid is beyond pharmacological remedy . . .

Can't have a battle of wits with an unarmed man !
As standard procedure for the uninformed debunksters in their attempt to sound intelligent, totally avoid all issues which negate their abilities to debunk. My original post is of a 2 hour Press Release of the first 21 of 450
government CIA FBI NSA ARMY NAVY MARINES AIRFORCE and Corporate witnesses.
The video can be found here.

http://www.topsecrettestimony.com/npcc_full.wmv

No comment was made!

But true or not this type of information needs to be investigated.

Apparently you dont feel this way. Why ?


My second post was to show how varied research into this subject can be.

But instead of reviewing anything I have put forth.

I was entertained by your abilities to recall "facts" lol about a couple of british boyz and their ropes that you watched on TV while waiting for Romper Room to come on. But you forgot to explain how they traveled to 40 countries and added radiation burns to many of the sites.

In most cases crop circles are just plain round, with depressions which we "theorize" were landing gear.

Now If you beleive that you relayed any pertinent Information to disband this theory, I have failed to see it.

Here are the topics I listed

1) Sun Lasco/Soho satellite photos of UFO's
2) Cattle mutilations Approx 30,000 cases or 30,000,000 dollars worth
3) Crop circles/landing sites bearing radiation
4) Mars - Pyramids Face tubes etc.
5) Witnesses public
6) Government Witnesses - Project disclosure and it's 450 witnesses
7) Moon Landing or hoax or something in between
8) How debunkers crumble under scrutiny Friedman versus Klass
9) average sightings of 70,000 ufo's each year!
10) Reported crash sites
11) Famous Landings

Got any proof, other than your bald assertion?

Uh huh, i thought not.

Since you lied! I cant take anything you say seriously[/B
[i]Since you lied! I cant take anything you say seriously[/i]
not only are you wasting your time but mine as well

[quote="Setanta"]I'm not going to waste my time "


Why dont you try a new tactic ? One that requires investigation and maybe even some reading ?

Good point, but i will stick around for the silly fun . . .

I sure as hell ain't gonna give those clowns $7.00 a month to support their project to sucker the credulous . . . ought to have known, there'd be a hook in ya somewhere. Hey Fluid, to you pony up with yer $7/month?

Re: Can't have a battle of wits with an unarmed man !


"Debunksters"? What a marvelous word! Is that your coinage, fluid, or did someone else come up with it?

Oh, and those 30,000 cattle mutilations -- approximately 1200 were my fault. And for that I am truly sorry.

fluid, it be no fun to try to research/write about every one of those topics all at once. I assert most of your points are heaping bullshit, but if you choose one item you're most passionate about then present your case as to its validity you may get more takers for presenting the pertinent information to disband it.

This is high-larious. The page you link above is produced by "The Disclosure Project" (which i bet makes good money off of folks like you.) When you got to their home page, you find that Steven Greer, M.D. is the only person listed in the screed about the project, although he constantly speaks in the first person plural--"we." I have some time on my hands, so i thought i'd devote a little time to investigating "Dr." Greer, who in some places refers to himself as an emergency doctor, and in others, a simple country doctor. But it took no time at all to find this:

Anybody who has heard Steven Greer do a presentation in
connection with his "Disclosure Project" has heard the claim that
he has "briefed" numerous high-level movers and shakers. The list
always includes James Woolsey, President Carter's first CIA
director. I always thought it a bit strange that a "country
doctor" (as Greer describes himself) could get onto the schedule
of an official at that level, so a little over a year ago I took
a flyer and tried to contact Woolsey directly. It turned out that
he was with a D.C. law firm at the time, with an e-mail address.

About an hour after sending the e-mail inquiry, I got a call from
an assistant in his office. The lady asked me for a fax number,
and 15 minutes later I had a copy of the letter Woolsey wrote to
Greer in an effort to set the record straight. It's signed by
Woolsey and his wife (at the time a ranking official at the
National Academy of Sciences), as well as John Peterson and his
wife. Peterson apparently was the contact person who had served
as intermediary between Greer and the host of the diner party
where the "briefing" took place; he also operates a think tank in
Arlington VA. The text of the letter is appended. I have a
scanned image file of the fax; I'll send it back-channel if
anybody's interested.

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September 16,1999

Steven M. Greer, M.D.
International Director
Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence
P.O. Box 265
Crozet, Virginia 22932

Dear Dr. Greer:

It has just come to the attention of the four of us that you
have, without giving any of us the opportunity to comment,
published a distorted account of a dinner party of some six years
ago at which the four of us, you, and your wife were seated
together.

In the Introduction to your book, Extraterrestrial Contact,
published earlier this year you portray this dinner party
conversation during which the four of us listened to your views
and politely asked questions as a "briefing" with a "cover
story." You further assert that Mr. and Mrs. Woolsey reported a
UFO sighting to you and agreed with your views. You include
specific alleged quotations from them.

None of this is accurate. You have portrayed politeness as
acquiescence and questions as affirmations. Your conduct in this
matter contravenes both accuracy and simple manners.


Sincerely,

John L. Petersen
Diane C. Petersen
R. James Woolsey
Suzanne H. Woolsey

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I find it interesting that Greer is often referred to in his own web sites as the CEO (Chief Executive Officer) of the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence--i'll bet it's a money maker. When you get a lie of this calibre on the record, it's a sure bet that there are a great many more yet to be revealed.

Great source you got there, Fluid. Are you personally enriching Mr. Greer?

Im Impressed

Fluid: Are you trying to convince the rest of us to believe in UFOs? It's probably a lost cause. By all means, believe in 'em if you wish. But trying to make a case for this to others seems like a waste of time...