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A Vice Presidental candidate thread.

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 09:14 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

No I don't, and frankly I haven't cared, but I know it is a big waste of money. I can't do anything about it, except vote for McCain Palin, which I intend to do.

Just guessing, percentage wise very small, but dollar wise, probably a few billion, very significant. Hows my guess?


You don't know, and haven't cared, but it's a signature issue of your candidate. How is this possible, Okie?

Info from wikipedia:

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The total congressional earmarks for fiscal year 2008 numbered 11,780 worth $18.3 billion. This is a 23% cut in earmarks from the high in FY 2005, but falls well short of the 50% reduction House leadership set as its goal earlier in the year.[3]


18.3 billion dollars. That's what earmarks add up to. What's the total budget for 2008?

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The President's budget for 2008 totals $2.9 trillion.


Plz note that that number does not include the wars, does not include the 150 billion dollar 'stimulus check,' and does not include various governmental bail-outs. So let's just round it up to 3 trillion, even though the actual amount is far more.

3 trillion - 3,000,000,000,000.

18 billion - 18,000,000,000.

The earmark spending is right around half a percent of our budget. Half a percent. And that doesn't even count which ones are 'wasteful.' And this is where McCain has focused his 'reform.' We're over 400 billion dollars in deficit this year. Even if we cut all Federal earmarks completely, it wouldn't make a dent. Not even a little one.

Earmarks do not represent a 'big waste of money.' This whole argument has always been transparently ridiculous. We're talking about less money then a month and a half in Iraq. Big whoop.

Please do homework Okie before making things out to be a big deal, when they are not.

Cycloptichorn
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 11:29 am
@okie,
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Obama described the work of a community organizer in a chapter he wrote for a 1990 book called After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois.

In theory, community organizing provides a way to merge various strategies for neighborhood empowerment. Organizing begins with the premise that (1) the problems facing inner-city communities do not result from a lack of effective solutions, but from a lack of power to implement these solutions; (2) that the only way for communities to build long-term power is by organizing people and money around a common vision; and (3) that a viable organization can only be achieved if a broadly based indigenous leadership " and not one or two charismatic leaders " can knit together the diverse interests of their local institutions.

This means bringing together churches, block clubs, parent groups and any other institutions in a given community to pay dues, hire organizers, conduct research, develop leadership, hold rallies and education cam­paigns, and begin drawing up plans on a whole range of issues " jobs, education, crime, etc. Once such a vehicle is formed, it holds the power to make politicians, agencies and corporations more responsive to commu­nity needs. Equally important, it enables people to break their crippling isolation from each other, to reshape their mutual values and expectations and rediscover the possibilities of acting collaboratively " the prerequi­sites of any successful self-help initiative.


Seems to me, he was involved in a grass-roots movement to effect change--meaningful change in people's lives. It certainly brought him into contact with the people having serious economic problems and the obstacles to correcting those problems.

What did he do after being a community organizer? He attended Harvard Law School and distinguished himself by becoming editor of the Harvard Law Review. With those credentials, he could have written his own ticket in terms of his employment--any major law firm or corporation would have snatched him up at a mega-salary. But he didn't do that. He continued to be concerned about the problems of ordinary people, and he moved into public service in the Illinois State Senate. He has always worked to bring people together--something our country needs right now.

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Organizing remained central to Obama long after his stint on the South Side. In the 13 years between Obama’s return to Chicago from law school and his Senate campaign, he was deeply involved with the city’s constellation of community-organizing groups. He wrote about the subject. He attended organizing seminars. He served on the boards of foundations that support community organizing. He taught Alinsky’s concepts and methods in workshops. When he first ran for office in 1996, he pledged to bring the spirit of community organizing to his job in the state Senate.


Organizing brings hope to people who have felt beatened down. It helps them to become active and effective members of our society.

Obama has written

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In fact, the answer to the original question " why organize? " resides in these people. In helping a group of housewives sit across the negotiating table with the mayor of America's third largest city and hold their own, or a retired steelworker stand before a TV camera and give voice to the dreams he has for his grandchild's future, one discovers the most significant and satisfying contribution organizing can make.

In return, organizing teaches as nothing else does the beauty and strength of everyday people.


Seems to me Obama has demonstrated, over and over again, his concerns for ordinary people, and that he understands their problems and their dreams. And he wants politicians to be responsive to the needs of ordinary people.

It's also more apparent he tackled far more difficult challenges and problems, even as a very young community organizer, than Palin ever had to address as mayor of Wasilla. And she needed to hire a city administrator to help her do her job as mayor in that tiny town of 6,000. Rolling Eyes

Obama has true leadership ability--he's demonstrated that his entire adult life--and that's something we desparately need in our next president.
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 01:31 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote: "Seems to me Obama has demonstrated, over and over again, his concerns for ordinary people, and that he understands their problems and their dreams. And he wants politicians to be responsive to the needs of ordinary people."

On the other hand, McCain recently said it was easy for him to go to Washington and to divorce himself from the everyday challenges of the people.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 01:34 pm
@firefly,
The Candidate is on our TV right now. I've watched a fair bit of it.

Is it really like that only more refined with practice since then?
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2008 09:06 pm
@spendius,
The New York Times
September 14, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist

The Palin-Whatshisname Ticket
By FRANK RICH
WITH all due deference to lipstick, let’s advance the story. A week ago the question was: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? The question today: What kind of president would Sarah Palin be?

It’s an urgent matter, because if we’ve learned anything from the G.O.P. convention and its aftermath, it’s that the 2008 edition of John McCain is too weak to serve as America’s chief executive. This unmentionable truth, more than race, is now the real elephant in the room of this election.

No longer able to remember his principles any better than he can distinguish between Sunnis and Shia, McCain stands revealed as a guy who can be easily rolled by anyone who sells him a plan for “victory,” whether in Iraq or in Michigan. A McCain victory on Election Day will usher in a Palin presidency, with McCain serving as a transitional front man, an even weaker Bush to her Cheney.

The ambitious Palin and the ruthless forces she represents know it, too. You can almost see them smacking their lips in anticipation, whether they’re wearing lipstick or not.

This was made clear in the most chilling passage of Palin’s acceptance speech. Aligning herself with “a young farmer and a haberdasher from Missouri” who “followed an unlikely path to the vice presidency,” she read a quote from an unidentified writer who, she claimed, had praised Truman: “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.” Then Palin added a snide observation of her own: Such small-town Americans, she said, “run our factories” and “fight our wars” and are “always proud” of their country. As opposed to those lazy, shiftless, unproud Americans " she didn’t have to name names " who are none of the above.

There were several creepy subtexts at work here. The first was the choice of Truman. Most 20th-century vice presidents and presidents in both parties hailed from small towns, but she just happened to alight on a Democrat who ascended to the presidency when an ailing president died in office. Just as striking was the unnamed writer she quoted. He was identified by Thomas Frank in The Wall Street Journal as the now largely forgotten but once powerful right-wing Hearst columnist Westbrook Pegler.

Palin, who lies with ease about her own record, misrepresented Pegler’s too. He decreed America was “done for” after Truman won a full term in 1948. For his part, Truman regarded the columnist as a “guttersnipe,” and with good reason. Pegler was a rabid Joe McCarthyite who loathed F.D.R. and Ike and tirelessly advanced the theory that American Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe (“geese,” he called them) were all likely Communists.

Surely Palin knows no more about Pegler than she does about the Bush doctrine. But the people around her do, and they will be shaping a Palin presidency. That they would inject not just Pegler’s words but spirit into their candidate’s speech shows where they’re coming from. Rick Davis, the McCain campaign manager, said that the Palin-sparked convention created “a whole new Republican Party,” but what it actually did was exhume an old one from its crypt.

The specifics have changed in our new century, but the vitriolic animus of right-wing populism preached by Pegler and McCarthy and revived by the 1990s culture wars remains the same. The game is always to pit the good, patriotic real Americans against those subversive, probably gay “cosmopolitan” urbanites (as the sometime cross-dresser Rudy Giuliani has it) who threaten to take away everything that small-town folk hold dear.

The racial component to this brand of politics was undisguised in St. Paul. Americans saw a virtually all-white audience yuk it up when Giuliani ridiculed Barack Obama’s “only in America” success as an affirmative-action fairy tale " and when he and Palin mocked Obama’s history as a community organizer in Chicago. Neither party has had so few black delegates (1.5 percent) in the 40 years since the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies started keeping a record.

But race is just one manifestation of the emotion that defined the Palin rollout. That dominant emotion is fear " an abject fear of change. Fear of a demographical revolution that will put whites in the American minority by 2042. Fear of the technological revolution and globalization that have gutted those small towns and factories Palin apotheosized.

And, last but hardly least, fear of illegal immigrants who do the low-paying jobs that Americans don’t want to do and of legal immigrants who do the high-paying jobs that poorly educated Americans are not qualified to do. No less revealing than Palin’s convention invocation of Pegler was the pointed omission of any mention of immigration, once the hottest Republican issue, by either her or McCain. Saying the word would have cued an eruption of immigrant-bashing ugliness, Pegler-style, before a national television audience. That wouldn’t play in the swing states of Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada, where Obama already has a more than 2-to-1 lead among Hispanic voters. (Bush captured roughly 40 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2004.)

Since St. Paul, Democrats have been feasting on the hypocrisy of the Palin partisans, understandably enough. The same Republicans who attack Democrats for being too P.C. about race now howl about sexism with such abandon you half-expect Phyllis Schlafly and Carly Fiorina to stage a bra-burning. The same gang that once fueled Internet rumors and media feeding frenzies over the Clintons’ private lives now express pious outrage when the same fate befalls the Palins.

But the ultimate hypocrisy is that these woebegone, frightened opponents of change, sworn enemies of race-based college-admission initiatives, are now demanding their own affirmative action program for white folks applying to the electoral college. They want the bar for admission to the White House to be placed so low that legitimate scrutiny and criticism of Palin’s qualifications, record and family values can all be placed off limits. Byron York of National Review, a rare conservative who acknowledges the double standard, captured it best: “If the Obamas had a 17-year-old daughter who was unmarried and pregnant by a tough-talking black kid, my guess is if they all appeared onstage at a Democratic convention and the delegates were cheering wildly, a number of conservatives might be discussing the issue of dysfunctional black families.”

The cunning of the Palin choice as a political strategy is that a candidate who embodies fear of change can be sold as a “maverick” simply because she looks the part. Her marketers have a lot to work with. Palin is not only the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket, but she is young, vibrant and a Washington outsider with no explicit connection to Bush or the war in Iraq. That package looks like change even if what’s inside is anything but.

How do you run against that flashy flimflam? You don’t. Karl Rove for once gave the Democrats a real tip rather than a bum steer when he wrote last week that if Obama wants to win, “he needs to remember he’s running against John McCain for president,” not Palin for vice president. Obama should keep stepping up the blitz on McCain’s flip-flops, confusion, ignorance and blurriness on major issues (from education to an exit date from Iraq), rather than her gaffes and résumé. If he focuses voters on the 2008 McCain, the Palin question will take care of itself.

Obama’s one break last week was the McCain camp’s indication that it’s likely to minimize its candidate’s solo appearances by joining him at the hip with Palin. There’s a political price to be paid for this blatant admission that he needs her to draw crowds. McCain’s conspicuous subservience to his younger running mate’s hard-right ideology and his dependence on her electioneering energy raise the question of who has the power in this relationship and who is in charge. A strong and independent woman or the older ward who would be bobbing in a golf cart without her? The more voters see that McCain will be the figurehead for a Palin presidency, the more they are likely to demand stepped-up vetting of the rigidly scripted heir apparent.

But Obama’s most important tactic is still the one he has the most trouble executing. He must convey a roll-up-your-sleeves Bobby Kennedy passion for the economic crises that are at the heart of the fears that Palin is trying to exploit. The Republican ticket offers no answers to those anxieties. Drilling isn’t going to lower gas prices or speed energy independence. An increase in corporate tax breaks isn’t going to end income inequality, provide health care or save American jobs in a Palin presidency any more than they did in a Bush presidency.

This election is still about the fierce urgency of change before it’s too late. But in framing this debate, it isn’t enough for Obama to keep presenting McCain as simply a third Bush term. Any invocation of the despised president " like Iraq " invites voters to stop listening. Meanwhile, before our eyes, McCain is turning over the keys to his administration to ideologues and a running mate to Bush’s right.

As Republicans know best, fear does work. If Obama is to convey just what’s at stake, he must slice through the campaign’s lipstick jungle and show Americans the real perils that lie around the bend.
blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2008 12:39 pm
Palin Put Alaskan Women and Kids at Risk in Pursuit of Vendetta
by Kagro X
Tue Sep 16, 2008 at 08:40:13 AM PDT
ABC News:

Evangelicals and social conservatives have embraced McCain's vice presidential pick for what they call her "pro-family," "pro-woman" values. But in Alaska, critics say Gov. Sarah Palin has not addressed the rampant sexual abuse, rape, domestic violence and murder that make her state one of the most dangerous places in the country for women and children.

Alaska leads the nation in reported forcible rapes per capita, according to the FBI, with a rate two and a half times the national average  a ranking it has held for many years. Children are no safer: Public safety experts believe that the prevalence of rape and sexual assault of minors in Alaska makes the state's record one of the worst in the U.S. And while solid statistics on domestic violence are hard to come by, most - including Gov. Palin - agree it is an "epidemic."

Terrible. But all was not lost in Alaska. There were dedicated public servants who made the reduction and prevention of violence against women a priority.

Some members of Palin's administration were focused on the issue of sexual violence. Officials in the Department of Public Safety were devising an ambitious, multi-million-dollar initiative to seriously tackle sex crimes in the state...

Whew! Thank God.

...but Palin's office put the plan on hold in July.

Damn! Why the hell would she do that?!

Days later, Palin fired its chief proponent, Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, after he declined to dismiss a state trooper Palin accused of threatening her own family members. Palin has said she fired Monegan because she wanted to move his department in a "new direction," and he was not being "a team player on budgeting issues." The dismissal is now at the center of a hotly-contested investigation by the state legislature.

Yes, that's right. In her effort to "protect her family" from domestic violence, she fired the state's leading advocate for domestic violence prevention. Because he wouldn't agree to fire her ex-brother in-law, State Trooper Mike Wooten, on her say-so.

How she hoped to protect her family by making it more difficult for Wooten to pay his bills, nobody has yet figured out.

But in the meantime, the victims of Alaska's absolutely scandalous rate of violence against women and children -- not to mention the one guy who actually cared -- are paying the price for a governor who puts her obsession with using the trappings of high office to settle personal scores ahead of protecting public safety.
http://www.dailykos.com/
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2008 06:27 pm
Palin's Yahoo! Account Hacked http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/17/palins_yahoo_account_hacked.html
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 01:45 pm
@firefly,
The problems for the conservatives is that they believe if and when Obama becomes president, he'll transfer wealth from the rich to the poor.

Never mind that "security" for the rich such as national defense, the funding for the banks and investment companies are owned primarily by the rich - and protected by taxpayers. They want their cake and eat it too!

The rich has more at risk to lose their wealth than does the middle class or the poor, but the parroting by the conservatives have always been, "it's not fair to tax the rich to transfer wealth to the poor." And they believe it.

There's no cure for stupid.
Asherman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 02:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I agree that generally American conservatives oppose redistribution of property from those who legitimately have it to those who only want it. You talk as if having wealth and property is somehow a terrible thing, but is it? If it is then almost everyone who has ever lived must be tainted since we all seek our own self-interest. The acquisition of property and wealth is the most common of all human interests. The Communist notion that wealth and property should be equally divided without regard to an individual's effort has been a disaster wherever and whenever attempted. Individuals are entitled to build their fortunes as great as they wish, so long as they do it legally.

You talk as if you are different from other people who have wealth and property. Yet, you personally own property and have greater wealth than many Americans. So are you OK with having government take away the fruits of your hard earned labor and efforts to be given to some anonymous person who for whatever reason has less? Don't you also want to eat your cake, and yet still possess it?

Perhaps you define yourself as "middle-class", and that somehow makes your wealth and property different than those who have a bit more. The lines that define "rich", "middle-class", and "poor" are subjective and arbitrary. A small business man might have worked forty years to build a business with a couple of hundred employees that now makes a couple of million dollars a year. Is that man rich, and should you be able to tax or seize his property in pursuit of some idea of egalitarianism? In that example, that terrible capitalist might be struggling to keep the doors open and avoid laying off his workers. Already, State and Federal regulations make it difficult for many small businesses to continue, much less get started.

You can tax and find other ways to redistribute the personal wealth and property of our citizens, but in doing so you are also advocating undercutting the whole economy.

To assert that the "middle-class" or "poor" benefit less from national security than the "rich" is patent nonsense. If the United States were to vanish along with the Capitalist system as you seem to want, don't you know the "poor" and the "middle-class" will also lose everything we Americans value? Did the "poor" and "middle-class" of Russia really benefit by the Class War that supposedly annihilated personal property and wealth?

Actually, I'm not at all sure that "middle-class" and "rich" intellectuals aren't more enamored of the Marxists than any of the working, or laboring "poor". Its strange that those with the most property, wealth and privilege are the most vocal in condemning one of the most fundamental of all human characteristics.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 02:27 pm
@Asherman,
One thing I dislike about you conservatives is the simple fact is you read into statements something never said; it's all imagination with no basis. If you have a question, just ask. It's that simple; quit making assumptions about what I said or implied if it's unclear. Simple.

You wrote:
Quote:
You talk as if having wealth and property is somehow a terrible thing, but is it?


You should ask the question first; not after you create an unfounded idea in your brain.

As for "our" wealth, we are not rich but comfortable. I do not mind paying more taxes so that we better our infrastructure, schools, health benefits for the majority, and taking care of the poor. I do not appreciate our government wasting money in the war in Iraq at the tune of $2.7 billion every week, or the money give-away to foreign countries when our own citizens are hurting.

Or that bridge to nowhere.

Got that?
Asherman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 04:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Every one of my points was directly related to things you said in the post I was responding to. Did you specifically say that wealth and property is somehow a terrible thing? Nope, nor did I say that I was quoting you ("you talk as if.."). That isn't much of a stretch given the tenor of your remarks, and your statements here at A2K for a number of years.

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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 05:11 pm
@firefly,
I can't be expected to read that load of trottle ff. It's all old hat stuff.

If Mr McCain gets elected I expect all treaties to be de-ratified. And I backed him at 6 to 1 months ago. He reminds me of Charlie Drake. "Hello, my darlings."

I would think about emigrating if I was you.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 05:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
c.i. wrote-

Quote:
If you have a question, just ask.


What's the scientific Darwinian explanation of lingerie shops?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 05:21 pm
@spendius,
spendi, At the very least, try to make some sense.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 18 Sep, 2008 05:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You have lingerie shops in most of your shopping precincts. What are they for? Most of the contrivances I have seen in their displays look quite uncomfortable to me.

It's a simple enough question. I can explain fish and chip shops and pubs and fishing tackle shops and get me out of here shops but I can't explain lingerie shops from a Darwinian perspective.

You are the expert Darwinian. Explain lingerie shops and knock off the evasions. We all know that's what they are.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 12:03 am
@spendius,
Go ahead, ask Palin anything, except ...

Sheldon Alberts, National Post
Published: Friday, September 19, 2008

WASHINGTON -Ever since Sarah Palin sat down with ABC News anchor Charlie Gibson last week, Republicans have complained the venerable newsman was unforgivably condescending and aloof.

Gibson's sin? Asking Palin, insistently, whether she supported and could describe "the Bush doctrine." The Alaska Governor simply couldn't answer.

"In what respect, Charlie?" Gibson: What do you interpret it to be?

Palin: His world view? Umm, OK.

Conservative commentators -- notably syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer -- rushed to Palin's defence. Krauthammer pointed out there have been "four distinct meanings" of the Bush doctrine and chastized Gibson for practising "gotcha" journalism.

He also said the anchor "captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension" elitists feel toward Palin.

Or, maybe, Gibson was just asking.

Palin's defenders haven't bothered considering the obvious: If there are four Bush doctrines, shouldn't a potential vice-president be able to name at least one of them?

But never mind. It was all Gibson's fault. Of course White House aspirants should be spared such ruthless journalistic inquisition.

So now we're familiar with the rules as they pertain to Palin, it's worth examining how she fares when the questions come from less-hostile interrogators.

The Alaska Governor gave her first U. S. cable interview this week to Fox News' Sean Hannity, who treated her with kid gloves.

And yet Palin struggled. At times, the Republican candidate bordered on the incoherent, as when Hannity asked if she'd had a "hockey team" meeting with her family after being asked to be John Mc-Cain's running mate. "It was a time of asking the

girls to vote on it, anyway. And they voted unanimously yes. Didn't bother asking my son because, you know, he is going to be off doing his thing anyway so he wouldn't be so impacted by, at least the campaign period here. So I asked the girls what they thought and they are like, 'Absolutely, let's do this, Mom.' "

And does Palin support the U. S. government's bailout of failing corporations to prevent financial crisis?

"Well, you know, first, Fannie and Freddie, different because quasi-government agencies there where government had to step in because the adverse impacts all across our nation, especially with home owners, is just too impacting."

Somewhere, Jean Chretien is feeling better about his English skills.

But maybe Hannity, like Gibson, was playing gotcha.

Surely Palin would do better at her first town-hall meeting with John McCain, on Wednesday in Grand Rapids, Mich.

One woman asked her to "rebut or mitigate" concerns about her lack of foreign policy experience by describing "specific" skills in that area.

Palin seemed taken aback. "But as for foreign policy,

you know, I think I am prepared, and I know that on Jan. 20, if we are so blessed as to be sworn into office as your president and vice-president, certainly we'll be ready. I'll be ready. I have that confidence. I have that readiness and if you want specifics with specific policy or countries, go ahead. You can ask, you can play 'stump the candidate' if you want to. But we are ready to serve."

The Conservatives' "shoot-the-messenger" reaction to tough questions posed to Palin is similar to how liberals howled over Barack Obama's treatment by Gibson and his colleague George Stephanopoulos during a Democratic debate last April.

The ABC broadcasters were cast as conservative stooges after they asked Obama about his relationships with Rev. Jeremiah Wright and former domestic terrorist William Ayers (now a university prof, but in the 1960s a founder of leftist activists the Weathermen).

Curiously, conservatives such as Krauthammer took no issue with ABC's grilling of Obama. There are simply questions "you've got to ask" of a presidential candidate, he said then.

So why the double standard for Palin?

Associates insist she is a quick-on-her-feet debater who thrives in the crucible of political confrontation.

If Palin hopes to prove her supporters right, she must step up her game before the Oct. 2 vice-presidential debate. The questions don't get easier.

Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 01:00 am
@firefly,
"Go ahead, ask Palin anything, except ..."

...you can't expect a coherent response.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 03:02 am
Here: Palin tries to answer a question. Can someone please decipher it?

spendius
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 03:49 am
@Debra Law,
It is a big joke isn't it?

Isn't it?
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 20 Sep, 2008 03:50 pm
@spendius,
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The New York Times
September 20, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist

Lipstick Bungle
By CHARLES M. BLOW
Mr. McCain, on Monday you repeated your delusional notion that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. Now, the federal government is working on a deal to save that economy from collapsing. You have admitted that the economy is not your forte, so you could have used a running mate with some financial chops. (Remember Mitt Romney?)

But no. Who did you pick? SnowJob SquareGlasses whose financial credentials include running Wasilla into debt, listing (but not selling) a plane on EBay and flip-flopping on a bridge to wherever. In fact, when it comes to real issues in general, she may prove to be a liability.

In what respect, you may ask?

It turns out that the Republican enthusiasm for Sarah Palin is just as superficial as she is. They were so eager for someone to cheer for (because they really don’t like you) that they dove face first into the Palin mirage. But, on the issues, even they worry about her.

In a New York Times/CBS News poll conducted this week 77 percent of Republicans said that they had a favorable opinion of Palin. But when asked what specifically they liked about her, their top five reasons were that she was honest, tough, caring, outspoken and fresh-faced. Sounds like a talk-show host, not a vice president. (By the way, her intelligence was in a three-way tie for eighth place, right behind “I just like her.”)

When those Republicans were asked what they liked least about her, they started to sound more like everyone else. Aside from those who said that there was nothing they didn’t like, next on the list were: her lack of experience, her record as governor and her lack of foreign-policy experience.

Also, most Republicans think you only picked her to help with the election, not because she is qualified, and a third said that they would be “concerned” if for some reason she actually had to serve as president.

And Palin is proving to be just as vacant as people suspected. In her interview with Charles Gibson last week, she didn’t know what the Bush doctrine was. At your first joint town hall meeting with her in Michigan on Wednesday, in front of an invitation-only crowd of Republicans no less, she dodged substantive questions about the issues as if they were sniper fire, while issuing a faux challenge to the audience to play a game of “stump the candidate”. Seriously?

Many of your supporters will no doubt cry sexism. Fine with me. But that defense rings hollow. I find many of them to be sexist. Fresh-faced? Delegates on the floor of the Republican National Convention wearing buttons like “Hoosiers for the hot chick”?

Seriously.

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