Obama's electability

H2O_MAN wrote:

Is Obama about cutting taxes and a strong national defense ??

He's mostly about raising taxes, and a strong national defense.

Though if you make less then 75k, he says he wants to cut your taxes. So I guess a lot of it depends on your income level.

Cycloptichorn

And if you make more than 75K, like the majority of voters, you get it in the neck.

Is Obama about reducing the size of government?

How does he feel about personal freedoms?

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And if you make more than 75K, like the majority of voters, you get it in the neck.

Woiyo. Why are you doing this to yourself?

The median household income for 2006 was $48,000, not more then 75k. To say that 'the majority of voters' make more then 75k is a base lie.

As you can see from the graph below, 70% of Americans make less then 75k; and that's combined household income, so I'm quite sure that this counts both the husband and wife working in many cases.



You're like those fools who think that people making 200k+ are 'middle class.' Where do you come up with this stuff?

Cycloptichorn

97352 total voters of which 52,370 make over 50K. Thats 54%

34% over 75%.

Close enough for me. I'm gonna get it in the neck from Obama.

And if you make more than 75K, like the majority of voters, you get it in the neck.

H2O_MAN wrote:

Is Obama about reducing the size of government?

How does he feel about personal freedoms?

I'm sure he would like to reduce the size of the government, by getting rid of some dead weight in the DoD.

As for personal freedoms, I suspect that he likes them.

You're like those fools who think that people making 200k+ are 'middle class.' Where do you come up with this stuff?

Cycloptichorn

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You're like those fools who think that people making 200k+ are 'middle class.' Where do you come up with this stuff?

Cycloptichorn

According to ABC's Charlie Gibson, $200k IS middle class...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801060004

And John Edwards also says $200k is middle class...

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/22538.html

Mitt Romney also said that $200k was middle class...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/12/romney_sees_need_for_action_to_avert_recession/

So there ARE some serious people out there that DO consider $200k "middle class".

I have it on good authority (My Brain) that those two words stand for ... "Let them eat Possums"

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You're like those fools who think that people making 200k+ are 'middle class.' Where do you come up with this stuff?

Cycloptichorn

According to ABC's Charlie Gibson, $200k IS middle class...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801060004

And John Edwards also says $200k is middle class...

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/22538.html

Mitt Romney also said that $200k was middle class...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/12/romney_sees_need_for_action_to_avert_recession/

So there ARE some serious people out there that DO consider $200k "middle class".

mysteryman wrote:

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You're like those fools who think that people making 200k+ are 'middle class.' Where do you come up with this stuff?

Cycloptichorn

According to ABC's Charlie Gibson, $200k IS middle class...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801060004

And John Edwards also says $200k is middle class...

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/22538.html

Mitt Romney also said that $200k was middle class...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/12/romney_sees_need_for_action_to_avert_recession/

So there ARE some serious people out there that DO consider $200k "middle class".

Sorry, but those are all millionaires talking, and I frankly think they have not a clue what 'middle class' is.

Cycloptichorn

I just have to say...

I am heartened by a couple of things...

One, the desperate tone the Obama detractors have taken on, since he became the nominee and gained a 10+ point lead over McCain in national polls -they are really grasping. (Look at woiyo tapdancing to make his "facts" fit his "concerns" - a beautiful thing to behold).

Two, the fact that the nature of their "concerns" about him has remained just about consistent from when he was just one in a pack of half a dozen dem candidates.

It's still unsubstantial, but its gotten just so musically shrill of late.

snood wrote:

I just have to say...

I am heartened by a couple of things...

One, the desperate tone the Obama detractors have taken on, since he became the nominee and gained a 10+ point lead over McCain in national polls -they are really grasping. (Look at woiyo tapdancing to make his "facts" fit his "concerns" - a beautiful thing to behold).

Two, the fact that the nature of their "concerns" about him has remained just about consistent from when he was just one in a pack of half a dozen dem candidates.

It's still unsubstantial, but its gotten just so musically shrill of late.

Here is a fact. My bet is you do not like this poll.

Gallup Poll daily tracking. Three-day rolling average. N=approx. 2,600 registers voters nationwide. MoE ± 2. June 7, 2008, & earlier: Based on a five-day rolling average. N=approx. 4,400 registers voters nationwide. MoE ± 2.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm
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