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The Case Against John McCain

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 10:20 am
mysteryman wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
revel wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
revel wrote:
McCain Charge Against Obama Lacks Evidence

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The essence of McCain's allegation is that Obama planned to take a media entourage, including television cameras, to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany during his week-long foreign trip, and that he canceled the visit when he learned he could not do so. "I know that, according to reports, that he wanted to bring media people and cameras and his campaign staffers," McCain said Monday night on CNN's "Larry King Live."

The Obama campaign has denied that was the reason he called off the visit. In fact, there is no evidence that he planned to take anyone to the American hospital other than a military adviser, whose status as a campaign staff member sparked last-minute concern among Pentagon officials that the visit would be an improper political event.


Then why did he cancel his trip?
Why didnt he go by himself?

And why are you so anxious to believe what Obama says?

Do you really think he would admit it if the reports were true and he cancelled because he couldnt take the press with him?


Because the article says there is no evidence to back up McCain charges, that is the whole basis of the article.


Then Obama should explain WHY he cancelled the trip, not just deny what others are saying.


He already DID explain. The Pentagon told him it would be seen as a political event, and he didn't want to make it into a political event.

Cycloptichorn


But the pentagon also told him that if he wanted to come in his role as a US Senator, that would be acceptable.
Obama still cancelled his trip, so his "explanation" doesnt hold up under scrutiny.


Sure it does. What was Obama supposed to do, jump in a car and drive all that way? Bring his plane but make everyone just sit in it while he went to the hospital? It's not a realistic position that you are taking.

But that's not the point, is it? The point is to smear him. Admit it. Your purpose is to make it look as if he isn't concerned with the troops. Or why don't you tell me what your purpose in forwarding this argument is?

Cycloptichorn
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 06:17 pm
John McCain has once again lashed out Russia. Claiming that the country continues to be governed by Vladimir Putin, whose policy was called "very harmful," Senator McCain reasserted his determination to seek to oust Russia from the Group of Eight in case he's elected President. These statements appeared to be in stark contrast to the ones of Barack Obama, who warned against attempts to isolate Russia. "


http://www.kommersant.com/p916979/r_527/John_McCain_and_Barack_Obama_about_the_relations_with_Russia/
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 06:30 pm
The isolation policy is Bush-league policy; it does more harm than good. Bush never learned to negotiate, and "diplomacy" was never in his vocabulary.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 06:37 pm
"Mr. Obama is to blame for the outrageous gasoline prices, and by association, by the astonishingly outrageous oil company profits. Mr. McCain, with four terms in the senate following three in the house, is innocent of this; he was certainly too busy opposing a national holiday honoring Dr. Martin Luther King; brokering shady deals with savings and loan companies and trotting out his prison-of-war experiences to ever have touched on addressing U.S. dependency on oil. And now that the nation is enraged by oil prices, off-shore drilling becomes the new panacea, when in actuality all it will do is fill to overflowing the vast, already gluttonous bank accounts of the oil companies. But when a candidate lacks any idea of how to resolve a major problem, why not jump on whatever bandwagon happens to be rolling by at the time? And since his Iraq bandwagon, never better than shaky at the best of times, has now crashed and burned, oil prices seems to be a worthy substitute.

As Mr. Obama trots around the world, generating increasing amounts of excitement as both the first major party African-American candidate for president, and as a refreshing and longed for replacement for Mr. Bush, Mr. McCain struggles to capture the imagination of an apathetic Republican Party. Even evangelical conservatives, the core of GOP support in the last several elections, are only now grudgingly considering endorsing the elderly senator from Arizona. Compare this to their wild enthusiasm for his war-mongering, tax-breaks-for-the-rich predecessor and one can easily understand why Mr. McCain always looks so dour. Republicans, it seems, may not be as quick to vote against their own best interests as they have previously been; perhaps all that time waiting in the unemployment line has giving them more time to think about the issues that touch their lives. "

http://www.counterpunch.org/fantina07262008.html
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:15 pm
McCain has been relegated to complaints about Obama and not much else.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:55 pm
Actually, nothing else, CI.


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Cindy McCain on the Today Show, May 8, 2008:

"What you're going to see is a great debate. Which is what the American public deserves. None of this negative stuff, though. You won't see it come out of our side at all."



Evidently, John and Cindy don't talk anymore. Or now Cindy's John's new straight man. She does the flips and he does the flops.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 09:11 pm
Either Cindy doesn't talk to John or she completely misses all the media news about McCain's complaints against Obama - many with no foundation to truth or fact.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 01:36 pm
A pathetic way of life indeed.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 01:48 pm
John McCain's Major Foreign Policy Gaffe - On the campaign trail, John McCain has been claiming that he is the candidate with experience, the one most competent in foreign policy, while his opponent lacks experience. If foreign policy is John McCain's major strong point, then he is in serious trouble



http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/30-07-2008/105945-cindymccain-0
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 02:02 pm
I haven't commented here before, because I didn't think there was a case against John McCain. But today he ducked a question about, arguably, the most important controversy facing the Nation today. I have little choice but to consider him unfit to lead. Evil or Very Mad



We need a leader who will not shy away from the tough stuff. This just won't cut it for the leader of the free world. Perhaps the man he abandoned today out of cowardice should replace John McCain on the Republican Ticket. He'd get my vote. :wink:










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McCain refuses to get into Brett Favre controversy
Associated Press
12:53 PM CDT, July 31, 2008
RACINE, Wis. - Republican presidential candidate John McCain will talk about the Iraq war, gas prices and fighting terrorism.

But don't expect him to weigh in on the Brett Favre saga.

The first question at McCain's town hall meeting Thursday in Racine focused on Favre, who wants to come out of retirement but may not play for the beloved Green Bay Packers.

The questioner said McCain would carry Wisconsin in the election if he could resolve the Favre controversy.



"There's a lot of controversies that I have eagerly leapt into in my time," McCain said and laughed. "I'm not so dumb that I'm going to jump into that one."

The Arizona senator tried to get Favre-loving cheeseheads in the crowd to keep the whole thing in perspective.

"We all agree on that Brett Favre has provided America and the state of Wisconsin with some of its greatest memories and I hope we keep that all in mind as we go forward," he said.


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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 02:30 pm
I am troubled that both candidates are soft on illegal immigrants. They are pouring into the country, taking jobs from poor white and black citizens, and generally driving wages down. I don't understand why these men can't see this danger to the country.

O'Bill probably employs them at his restaurant, so he is willing to fight to the death to give them legal status. But it might be that he is just not too bright.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 03:42 pm
It's pretty clear why McCain has changed his song on offshore drilling.

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/pic.gif

73% of his donations from that industry, this cycle, have come in the last month.

Cycloptichorn
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 03:16 pm
The Republican presidential candidate is transforming himself from charming outsider to aggressive tactician. What's still unclear is whether that's helping him against Obama.


McCain's latest quip to journalists accompanying him, "What do you little idiots want?" may have been meant in jest, but it appears to have struck a nerve. McCain's new aggressiveness "could counteract the few advantages he has, namely likeability and a certain independence," warned CBS.


McCain recently joked on David Letterman's Late Night Talk Show, "I'm ancient and I have more scars than Frankenstein." But it can't be denied that the younger generation has a lot more in common with a basketball-playing, Blackberry-addicted, 46-year old Obama. A Democratic activist's popular website, "Things That Are Younger Than John McCain," bears witness to that.

A survey by the Associated Press and Yahoo cuts right to the chase: When asked what comes to mind first when one hears the name "Obama," the majority of respondents answered with the slogan "change." When asked the same about McCain, 20 percent spontaneously associated him with "old."

http://watchingamerica.com/News/3024/john-mccain-struggles-to-find-a-new-image/
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 03:22 pm
A new Republican video spot is causing a sensation: it depicts an audience member at Obama's Berlin speech speaking broken English in order to make the presidential candidate seem ridiculous. In supporting roles: Leonardo di Caprio and David Hasselhoff.

According to the video, the Germans dance to bad music, speak outlandish English, and believe that Obama looks a little like Che Guevara. With these crude Teutonic stereotypes, Republicans in the United States are trying to drum up opposition to the Democratic presidential contender. Obama fans who came in droves to his Berlin speech supply the necessary pictures and captions.

One of the chief witnesses is depicted saying that he has Communist friends in the USA who campaign for Obama. Another tells the camera he thinks the black presidential candidate looks a little like Che Guevara. Another scene shows passers-by dancing clumsily to a techno-beat with the caption "Dancing People of the World," a play on Obama's "People of the world, this is our moment."

The spot was paid for and put on the Internet by Republicans with the caveat that it wasn't authorized by any candidate or party committee.

Many think the 67-second spot is a harbinger of an election campaign that will be seething with dirty tricks. Obama's opponent McCain had already previously criticized Obama for his visit to the "groveling Germans."

http://watchingamerica.com/News/3026/election-humor/
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 04:01 pm
John McCain has unleashed a withering television commercial interweaving clips of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears with footage of Barack Obama addressing 200,000 Germans in Berlin a week ago in an apparent attempt to portray the Illinois senator as a bimbo celebrity with more smile than substance.


The spot, aired in 12 battleground states, was another sign of the McCain campaign sharpening its attacks on Mr Obama. "He's the biggest celebrity in the world, but is he ready to lead?" the voiceover asks, going on to question his positions on offshore oil drilling and tax policy.

This latest assault, honed in part by a new team of advisers last seen guiding George Bush's often acid re-election strategy against John Kerry four years ago, also hints that Mr McCain has forgone promises he once made to maintain a new level of civility in the White House race.

Mr Obama, who has been in Missouri and Iowa this week addressing far more modest crowds than he drew in Berlin, responded with a TV ad accusing Mr McCain of taking the "low road". "John McCain," it declared. "Same old politics. Same failed policies." Mr Obama said that he had "never even met the woman", meaning Hilton.

A spokesman for the hotel heiress said: "Miss Hilton was neither asked, nor did she give permission, for the use of her likeness in the ad, and has no further comment."

The Obama campaign has also spoken out against one of the candidate's own supporters, the rapper Ludacris, who released a song using an expletive to describe defeated Democratic contender Hillary Clinton. He also says Mr McCain doesn't belong in "any chair unless he's paralysed". Mr Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton, described the song as "outrageously offensive".

Mr McCain is trying to exploit a wariness among many voters about what Mr Obama really stands for. The Obama campaign, meanwhile, will seek to portray Mr McCain as a mean-spirited grouch - Democrat leaders are already dubbing him "McNasty" - who is falling back on negative tactics.

Some Republicans seem queasy about the direction that Mr McCain's new advisers are taking. Andrea Tantaros, a party strategist, told MSNBC his latest ad was "absurd and juvenile".

David Axelrod, the top strategist for Mr Obama, said: "When people are struggling... trying to pay bills... I don't think they have much tolerance for Britney Spears and Paris Hilton. I think they understand times are more serious than that, and they thought John McCain was too."

But after a long period of Mr Obama hogging the media canvas, Mr McCain's team seems to have hit something of a stride with ads that may be unfair and unsubtle but are at least getting him fresh press attention.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/controversial-mccain-campaign-likens-obama-to-paris-hilton-882630.html
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 04:18 pm
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 12:43 pm
Issues

serious issues
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 12:51 pm
American voters have two choice.
But only two choice
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 01:44 pm
In order to defeat Barack Obama, John McCain will have to convince a lot of currently disgruntled Republicans to turn out and vote for him. Yet mobilizing the Republican base, a strategy employed successfully by Karl Rove in 2002 and 2004, won't be enough for McCain to win in 2008. He'll also have to convince a majority of independents and a substantial number of Democrats to vote for him. That's a task that proved too difficult even for Rove in the 2006 midterm election and it may be still more difficult in 2008. That's because since 2006 the political environment has gone from bad to worse for Republicans.

It is no exaggeration to say that the political environment this year is one of the worst for a party in the White House in the past sixty years. You have to go all the way back to 1952 to find an election involving the combination of an unpopular president, an unpopular war, and an economy teetering on the brink of recession. 1952 was also the last time the party in power wasn't represented by either the incumbent president or the incumbent vice-president. But the fact that Democrat Harry Truman wasn't on the ballot didn't stop Republican Dwight Eisenhower from inflicting a crushing defeat on Truman's would-be successor, Adlai Stevenson.

Barack Obama is not a national hero like Dwight Eisenhower, and George Bush is no Harry Truman. But if history is any guide, and absent a dramatic change in election fundamentals or an utter collapse of the Obama candidacy, John McCain is likely to suffer the same fate as Adlai Stevenson.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=AIA2008072401
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 01:57 pm
This pretty much sums up how the electorate is feeling about John McCain three months before the election from Rama's post, above.
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"It is no exaggeration to say that the political environment this year is one of the worst for a party in the White House in the past sixty years. You have to go all the way back to 1952 to find an election involving the combination of an unpopular president, an unpopular war, and an economy teetering on the brink of recession."
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