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The Case Against John McCain

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 08:02 am
The beginning of a typically thorough and factual post by hilzoy (lots of links in original):

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As I noted earlier, at his press conference yesterday, John McCain said this:

    "QUESTION: The European Union has set mandatory targets on renewable energy. Is that something you would consider in a McCain administration? [...] MCCAIN: Sure. I believe in the cap-and-trade system, as you know. I would not at this time make those -- impose a mandatory cap at this time. But I do believe that we have to establish targets for reductions of greenhouse gas emissions over time, and I think those can be met."


But McCain's policy does include mandatory caps on emissions of the sort the EU has. There are basically three explanations for what McCain said: (1) He is lying about his own policy; (2) He doesn't know what his own policy is; (3) He doesn't know either what the EU system involves, or what the term 'mandatory caps' means. Personally, I prefer some combination of options 2 and 3, which imply that McCain is completely unfamiliar with what is supposed to be one of his signature issues. But any of the three are damning, albeit in different ways.


http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/06/mccain-and-the.html

She also points out several other times he's made similar mistakes. One more thing I need to quote, though the whole thing is worth a read:

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Second, when [the media] do notice, they might be worried that if they note his confusion, they will be illegitimately invoking McCain's age. But this is not true.

The main reason why McCain's opponents might bring up his age is because it might suggest that he was more likely to become confused and befuddled. But if he is already confused and befuddled, then it is possible to note that fact without bringing up his age at all. You can just cut out the middleman: it doesn't matter at all whether his confusion and befuddlement is due to age, to an unwillingness to pay attention to policy details, to laziness, or anything else: he is confused on very important points of policy, and that's what matters.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2008 03:23 pm
Crowley at TNR has a good catch.

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McCain Is the New Hillary

John Dickerson puts his finger on an interesting theme emerging in the race. The McCain campaign is starting to vent much the same frustrations as the Clinton camp did. Namely: "Our candidate has a real record of accomplishment, what has Obama done?" and "The press loves Obama, while we get an unfair rap."

The latter complaint has to be especially jarring for a McCain team used to seeing the media as more friend than adversary.

--Michael Crowley


My guess is that McCain will be even less successful at playing the victim/experienced leader then Hillary was.

Obama will be running essentially the same campaign against McCain that he ran against Hillary.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2008 12:08 pm
Yet another basic policy promoted by McCain, in which he doesn't understand what the hell he is talking about.

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A Cap By Any Other NameĀ…


http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/mccains_mandatory_caps.php

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jun, 2008 04:23 pm
That was the focus of hilzoy's post at the top of this page, too. Glad to see it getting more play, though.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 11:14 am
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McCain diplomacy: "Stop the bullshit!"

Senator Hothead has solutions for Iraq:

In May of 2006, as Iraq spiraled down into an orgy of sectarian bloodletting, John McCain had a solution. "One of the things I would do if I were president," McCain told a group of wealthy contributors, "would be to sit the Shiites and the Sunnis down and say, 'Stop the bullshit.'"

If only someone had thought of that before. This is the man Brian Williams of NBC News recently referred to as having "vast foreign-policy expertise and credibility on national security."

McCain's insightful plan to end the Iraqi sectarian conflict was just one comment, of course. But given how often we are told these days that McCain has "credibility" and "experience" on matters of foreign policy and national security, it's worth asking what effect all that alleged experience has had on him. Because when McCain actually opens his mouth to discuss these issues, his ideas and beliefs often sound so simple-minded they make George W. Bush look like Otto von Bismarck.

If it can work in Iraq, maybe we can send President McCain to the rest of the Middle East: "Stop the Bullshit!" To Russia: "Stop the Bullshit!" Heck, if it works in foreign policy, maybe we could use the same clever strategy to get universal health care: "Stop the bullshit!" Fix the economy: "Stop the bullshit!" Solve the energy crisis and stop global warming: "Stop the bullshit!"

Or maybe we could just hire us a new president with the brains and the ability to solve some of those problems without just getting loud and angry.


http://www.realmccainblog.com/2008/03/mccain-diplomacy-stop-bs.html

McCain is not an expert on foreign policy, as his handlers and supporters would have you believe. He continually makes mistakes and over-simplifies complex problems as if that is a realistic position.

Just more of the McSame.

Cycloptichorn
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 01:13 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
McCain is not an expert on foreign policy, as his handlers and supporters would have you believe. He continually makes mistakes and over-simplifies complex problems as if that is a realistic position.

Just more of the McSame.

Cycloptichorn


Exactly the same charge could be levelled about Obama with respect to his proposals for Education and energy independence & GHG limitations.
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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 01:23 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
McCain is not an expert on foreign policy, as his handlers and supporters would have you believe. He continually makes mistakes and over-simplifies complex problems as if that is a realistic position.

Just more of the McSame.

Cycloptichorn


Exactly the same charge could be levelled about Obama with respect to his proposals for Education and energy independence & GHG limitations.



You mean McCain is speaking with more authority than Obama when it comes to GHG limitations?
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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 01:25 pm
And by the way.....

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"One of the things I would do if I were president," McCain told a group of wealthy contributors, "would be to sit the Shiites and the Sunnis down and say, 'Stop the bullshit.'"


Now waitaminute.

2006 - that was the year where, amongst countless other attacks, the al-Askari Mosque in Samarra was blown up. Where, in one day, 120 people were killed by suicide bombers in Karbala and in Ramadi. When, in the Buratha Mosque bombing, 85 people were killed and 160 injured. The year where, in the Sadr City bombings, terrorists simultaneously detonated six car bombs and fired two mortar rounds, killing 215 people and injuring 257.

Does this mean that McCain would sit down with terrorist leaders? Even talk to them?


Oh well.

I hope he would at least do so separately, and with preconditions....
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 01:42 pm
old europe wrote:
You mean McCain is speaking with more authority than Obama when it comes to GHG limitations?


I don't know about authority, but with respect to common sense and a plan that will realistically accomplish meaningful reductions of both impoorted petroleum and GHG emissions within a couple of decades, the answer is most assuredly YES.

Obama advocates more government regulation of vehicles & appliances; new subsidies for wind & solar power; continued prohibition of drilling of our most promising petroleum reserves; and continued prohibition of the licensing of a nuclear fuel repository and new nuclear plant construction. That will simply create an economic crisis as the total cost (including subsidies) of energy rises by a factor of 1.5 to 2.0.

McCain advocates the construction of 100 new nuclear power plants (which, even assuming a doubling of the planned cost of their construction, can still deliver power for approximately the same cost as a coal fired plant); government investment in research for lower cost solar & wind power; and exploitation of our best petroleum reserves. That will, in the relatively short term, liberate enough natural gas for use in vehicles (currently burned to produce electrical power) to replace about one third of our petroleum imports, and very significantly reduce our GHG emissions -- all while holding energy costs at or below their current levels.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 01:46 pm
Yes, and he would sit down with them, in a manner wholly unlike Obama-the-appeaser would and tell them, "Stop the Bullshit"..."the bullshit" being, for example, the ideologies that govern their entire lives, and the religion that characterizes them as a people.

Yes, stop the bullshit is a great slogan, and, as another author revealed above, can overlap into many other areas. Think of what McSame could do by telling Mother Nature to Stop the Bullshit.

He's a genius really.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 01:50 pm
Just "ran into" this interesting thread. McCain seems to speak more with "forked tongue" than his counterpart, Obama. I just wonder why the media hasn't been tracking all of McCain's boners, vis a vis Obama's public financing .
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 02:05 pm
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 02:08 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
I just wonder why the media hasn't been tracking all of McCain's boners


<claps hand over mouth to try to stifle a number of highly inappropriate comments>
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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 02:14 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Obama advocates more government regulation of vehicles & appliances; new subsidies for wind & solar power; continued prohibition of drilling of our most promising petroleum reserves; and continued prohibition of the licensing of a nuclear fuel repository and new nuclear plant construction. That will simply create an economic crisis as the total cost (including subsidies) of energy rises by a factor of 1.5 to 2.0.


Ah yeah.

I'm not a fan of too much regulation when it comes to vehicles. I think that high taxes on gas are a far more effective way to bring about innovation than, say, CAFE standards. High costs for gas will leave the development to the market. Regulation means interference with the car makers. I'd come down on the side of taxing gas.

Subsidies for wind and solar power - I see that as a positive. It really depends on the way they are employed, though. If it means that the government simply pays for stuff... dunno. If it means an intelligent policy like the "individuals can install renewables and the energy companies have to buy back the electricity fed into the grid" - then, yes. Because, again, it leaves the power to the market.
One caveat would be large projects. I can't see how something like that could be done if left to the market - at least not in a short amount of time. Example: the largest solar photovoltaic system in North America can be found in the United States. It can be found at Nellis Air Force Base. It was built and is operated by a private company, but Nellis is guaranteeing to buy the power for 20 years. (Apparently, the contract saves the Air Force $1 million each year.)

Nuclear plants... well. I don't like them. But I'm living in a densely populated country. The decision to build a power plant means that there will be a nuclear power plant in somebody's back yard. Given recent studies, that's something I'm not in favour of. On the other hand, this is a country that, climatewise, doesn't have the option of building huge solar power plants that could contribute very significantly to the power mix. That's not true for Spain, or for the United States.

And about the cost of energy: you see rising costs as a negative. I think you refuse to look at the opportunities that would come with that.


georgeob1 wrote:
McCain advocates the construction of 100 new nuclear power plants (which, even assuming a doubling of the planned cost of their construction, can still deliver power for approximately the same cost as a coal fired plant); government investment in research for lower cost solar & wind power; and exploitation of our best petroleum reserves. That will, in the relatively short term, liberate enough natural gas for use in vehicles (currently burned to produce electrical power) to replace about one third of our petroleum imports, and very significantly reduce our GHG emissions -- all while holding energy costs at or below their current levels.


Nukes - see above.

Government investment in research - I don't know. Isn't that the same as subsidies? Wouldn't it be smarter to find a scheme that would leave the innovation, the R&D to the market? Just asking.

Exploitation of best petroleum reserves - sure. Again, I would leave that to the market. Rising energy prices mean that formations like the Barnett Shale in Texas, with an estimated 30 trillion cubic feet of natural gas resources, will become profitable.
I see opening ANWR the same as tapping the strategic oil reserve: unnecessary government interference, popular because it promises to bring down gas prices in the short run. It doesn't reward innovation and progress.
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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 02:15 pm
sozobe wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I just wonder why the media hasn't been tracking all of McCain's boners


<claps>


Hehehe....

Come on, go ahead!
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 06:05 pm
Impossible: Finding An Expert Who Backs McCain's Offshore Drilling Claims link
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 06:26 pm
McCain advisors step away from Bush, but not too far
Published: Monday June 23, 2008

The Republican party's presumptive presidential nominee John McCain is engaged in a delicate dance, distancing himself from US President George W. Bush while courting the conservative ideals of the outgoing president's party.

Few of McCain's top advisors are well known to the general public, and even fewer are directly linked to the highly unpopular Bush administration.

However neoconservatives, whose thinking has directed Bush's foreign policy following the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, are ever-present and powerful in McCain's inner circle.

Randy Scheunemann, McCain's chief foreign policy spokesman, in 2002 founded the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which agitated for the US invasion that was launched in 2003.

Scheunemann and Robert Kagan, another McCain advisor, head the neoconservative Project for a New American Century, which takes a hawkish line on foreign policy issues.

Their influence helps explain McCain's hardline stance on Iraq, where he has vowed to keep American troops for "as long as it takes," as well on Iran, Cuba, North Korea and even Russia, which he wants tossed out of the Group of Eight industrialized nations club over an erosion of democracy.

McCain, who has a reputation for being more independent-minded than most right-wing Republican leaders, is also close to independent Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman, the 2004 nominee for vice president, alongside failed presidential contender Al Gore. Lieberman's support for the Iraq war has put him starkly at odds with liberal Democrats.

When it comes to the economy meanwhile, McCain has sought a range of diverse opinions, and has not drawn from the ranks of Bush economic advisors.

According to author Matt Welch, who wrote a critical biography of McCain called "Myth of a Maverick," the economy is of secondary importance to the 71-year-old Arizona senator.

"On the economy, he's just throwing (in) anyone who's around ... His approach on the economy is not based on principles," said Welch, adding that McCain's only general principles are free trade and his call for reform of th national Social Security pension system, and the Medicare health insurance scheme.

"He's much more interested (in foreign policy) than Bush," the author said, pointing out that neoconservatives have surrounded McCain since the 1990s. "He's running on foreign policy this year."

In fact, the range of his advisors' views on the economy was startling enough to conservative writer Andrew Ferguson of the Weekly Standard that he wrote: "Those people aren't like each other at all."

"A couple of them, if you put them in the same room, would set off an intergalactic explosion like the collision of matter and antimatter," he added.

The main sources of their differences come down to whether to lower taxes (which McCain criticized at the beginning of the Bush presidency) and to balancing the budget (McCain supports amending the Constitution to mandate a balanced federal budget).

His main spokesman on economic matters is Douglas Holtz-Eakin, former Director of the Congressional Budget Office, who takes a stringent view on budgetary matters and is quick to denounce the social programs promised by Democrat Barack Obama.

McCain has largely allocated the public communication role of his view on economic matters to Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of Hewlett Packard who oversaw the complicated merger with computer maker Compaq.

In regular television appearances, Fiorina touts the positive economic impact of lower taxes.

On legislative matters, McCain has allowed former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Hollywood actor Fred Thompson, a former US senator, to speak on his behalf.

Both promote firm approaches to the "war on terror," and Thompson in particular is committed to naming right-leaning Supreme Court justices to the bench, similar to conservatives John Roberts and Samuel Alito chosen by Bush.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 07:28 pm
sozobe wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I just wonder why the media hasn't been tracking all of McCain's boners


<claps>


http://expatbrian.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/0626viagra.jpg

I found five of them...

http://www.mideastinfo.com/maproom/iraq.jpg

Make that six.

T
K
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2008 08:43 pm
misidentified some of the main players in the Iraq war.

I find it worrisome when McCain claims a) he has more foreign experience, and b) and knows the players in the war in Iraq.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2008 02:23 pm
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/2613341618_3daca9a92e_o.png

The enthusiasm gap seems stark. While this might be an okay situation for McCain in a close contest, it seems to be big trouble for him at the moment.

Cycloptichorn
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