Obama Gets His Hands Dirty

Nope. No walking on water that I can find. Saying a politician is trying to stay out of the ooze that surrounds our usual campaigns or saying he is a breath of fresh air is a far cry from saying he's a saint. (But if you find someone who thinks Obama is a deity, post the link and I'll conceed the point. )

So you and Obama are in agreement.

But "near religious fervor" is your term. They like to be "for" their candidate instead of "against" the other guy or voting for the "lesser of two evils." You are for you candidate. You were frothing a few months ago about the treatment she was getting in the press, etc, yet you don't worship her. If some of Obama's supporters are inspired by him, great. Some of Clinton's supporters are equally inspired. I've seen them praising her to the heavens on TV. Maybe McCain has inspired someone as well. Still, I don't see the "near religious fervor."

on this issue we are in agreement...

This is how people expose their ignorance...
No ONE PERSON speaks for the ENTIRE Black community.

and I indicated I believed that any ONE person speaks for the black community and exposed my ignorance where exactly?

If I have to point it out to you, then that says a whole lot more.

ahhh... so it's official... I'm a racist?

.....about your inability to make a point?

Obama Distorted Rev. Wright's Background

Monday, April 28, 2008 9:39 AM

By: Ronald Kessler


In an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday, Barack Obama again fabricated the background of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to try to excuse his longtime pastor's denunciations of America and of whites.

Referring to racial discrimination, violence, and segregation, Obama said Wright "went through experiences that I never went through."

In his speech on race in Philadelphia, Obama made similar claims. He described a "lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family . . ."

Obama said this was "the reality in which Reverend Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up . . . For the men and women of Reverend Wright's generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years."

But as detailed in an April 13 Newsman article, "Obama's Rev. Wright Mythology," Obama's characterization of his mentor's upbringing is untrue.

Wright grew up in a racially mixed, middle-class section of Philadelphia called Germantown, which consisted of homes on broad tree-lined streets. Both his parents had good jobs: His father was a pastor; his mother was vice principal of Philadelphia High School for Girls.

Wright was privileged to attend the elite Central High School, which admits only the most highly-qualified applicants from all over the city. When Wright attended Central High, the student body was 90 percent white, according to students who attended at around the same time.

Wright's classmates clearly respected him. The 211th class yearbook described him as the "epitome of what Central endeavors to imbue in its students."

In contrast to Wright, Bill Cosby, who also attended Central High, has denounced the black culture of victimhood that Wright has promoted in his sermons, a culture that Cosby says sets up blacks for failure.

Since the Newsmax story on Wright's background ran, only Fox News' Bill O'Reilly has picked up on the fact that Obama's characterization of his preacher's upbringing is fiction.

Meanwhile, the coverage resurgence of Wright over the weekend spotlights the fact that, by suppressing any mention of Wright until mid-March, the media in effect selected Obama as the Democrats' nominee.

Wright appeared in a Bill Moyers interview on Friday, gave a talk to the NAACP in Detroit on Sunday, and spoke to the National Press Club this morning. As a result, clips of Wright denouncing America and claiming the country introduced the AIDS virus to kill off blacks have been blanketing the airwaves.

Moreover, at the NAACP, Wright in effect ratified the black culture of failure by saying African-Americans' brains are different than those of whites: If they speak differently from whites, they are not wrong ?- just different, he said, implying that they should not be corrected.

If the Obama-loving media had picked up on stories that Newsmax started running in January before the primaries began about Obama and his relationship with his pastor, Hillary Clinton undoubtedly would be ahead today in delegates and votes.

After the media finally ran the stories, Obama's double-digit lead over Clinton in national polls vanished. At the same time, John McCain shot up in the polls.


As Ken Blackwell, a black columnist, recently wrote, the media have covered Obama "as if he were in a beauty pageant." In doing so, they have done a disservice to Democrats by not telling the truth about Obama and his pastor until most of the primaries were over.

By not reporting how Obama is using bogus claims about Wright's upbringing to excuse his "God damn America" tirades, the media are continuing the coverup.

I must be really ignorant, cause I don't see the point either.

A couple thousand attending a church is still only a fraction of the population.

That's right. There are 1000's who flock to Wright's church, 1000's who flock to Rev. Meek's church a few miles south of Trinity, several 1000's who flock to any number of churches all over Chicago and elsewhere every Sunday morning. Wright doesn't speak for the entire Black community. No one person does. That's my point.

the we agree because that's what I said.... so why am I ignorant but you're not?

Because you took what eoe said and it turned it into "Wright speaks for the black community and that other guy was Tommin". In two sequential posts you managed to put "uncle Tom" and "you're a racist" in eoe's mouth.

because that's exactly how she came on.... with the insinuation that the thousands who attend wrights church somehow validated him.... and then the rolling eyes.... were you thinking I wouldn't respond in kind?

I didn't start the snarkiness... I was trying to be serious and objective....

Allow me to illustrate the misunderstanding. Eoe was responding to the bolded sentence and my interpretation was that the eye roll was to the person you were quoting, not to you.

spin it as you like...

IMO, it was a mistake not to distance himself from Wright sooner.

The "radical preacher" link has sunk far too many campaigns.

Spin it? I read it sequentially, linearly, if you will. You'd have to spin it to take what you took from it. I realize you don't see it the same. Or you realize it was a misunderstanding but don't have the balls to say so.

Like McCain's?