Obama Gets His Hands Dirty

maporsche wrote:

engineer wrote:
sozobe wrote:

Not a deity though.

None of us supporting Obama have ever said that. .

NO Obama supporters? Zero? Really?

Nope. No walking on water that I can find. Saying a politician is trying to stay out of the ooze that surrounds our usual campaigns or saying he is a breath of fresh air is a far cry from saying he's a saint. (But if you find someone who thinks Obama is a deity, post the link and I'll conceed the point. Very Happy

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

but progress has been made.... some see the glass as half empty.... some as half full...

So you and Obama are in agreement.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

the anti obama crowd as you say are, when using the term messiah, referring to the near religious fervor which many Obama supporters treat him with..... and you know that...thanks for your patience...

But "near religious fervor" is your term. They like to be "for" their candidate instead of "against" the other guy or voting for the "lesser of two evils." You are for you candidate. You were frothing a few months ago about the treatment she was getting in the press, etc, yet you don't worship her. If some of Obama's supporters are inspired by him, great. Some of Clinton's supporters are equally inspired. I've seen them praising her to the heavens on TV. Maybe McCain has inspired someone as well. Still, I don't see the "near religious fervor."

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FreeDuck wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
but progress has been made.... some see the glass as half empty.... some as half full...

So you and Obama are in agreement.

on this issue we are in agreement...

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

eoe wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
A pastor on Morning Joe this morning was speaking about how Wright was absolutely not representative of the black church or the beliefs of the black community. He said Wrights rhetoric was very 45 year old black Nationalistic and no longer had any place or influence in the black community.

Tell that to the 1000's who flock to Trinity every Sunday morning.

So you think Wright represents and speaks for the black community?

so the other guy was Tomming?

This is how people expose their ignorance...
No ONE PERSON speaks for the ENTIRE Black community.

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and I indicated I believed that any ONE person speaks for the black community and exposed my ignorance where exactly?

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If I have to point it out to you, then that says a whole lot more.

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ahhh... so it's official... I'm a racist?

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eoe wrote:

If I have to point it out to you, then that says a whole lot more.

.....about your inability to make a point?

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eoe wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
eoe wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
A pastor on Morning Joe this morning was speaking about how Wright was absolutely not representative of the black church or the beliefs of the black community. He said Wrights rhetoric was very 45 year old black Nationalistic and no longer had any place or influence in the black community.

Tell that to the 1000's who flock to Trinity every Sunday morning.

So you think Wright represents and speaks for the black community?

so the other guy was Tomming?

This is how people expose their ignorance...
No ONE PERSON speaks for the ENTIRE Black community.

I must be really ignorant, cause I don't see the point either.

A couple thousand attending a church is still only a fraction of the population.

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That's right. There are 1000's who flock to Wright's church, 1000's who flock to Rev. Meek's church a few miles south of Trinity, several 1000's who flock to any number of churches all over Chicago and elsewhere every Sunday morning. Wright doesn't speak for the entire Black community. No one person does. That's my point.

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the we agree because that's what I said.... so why am I ignorant but you're not?

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

the we agree because that's what I said.... so why am I ignorant but you're not?

Because you took what eoe said and it turned it into "Wright speaks for the black community and that other guy was Tommin". In two sequential posts you managed to put "uncle Tom" and "you're a racist" in eoe's mouth.

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because that's exactly how she came on.... with the insinuation that the thousands who attend wrights church somehow validated him.... and then the rolling eyes.... were you thinking I wouldn't respond in kind?

I didn't start the snarkiness... I was trying to be serious and objective....

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eoe wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
eoe wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
A pastor on Morning Joe this morning was speaking about how Wright was absolutely not representative of the black church or the beliefs of the black community. He said Wrights rhetoric was very 45 year old black Nationalistic and no longer had any place or influence in the black community.

Tell that to the 1000's who flock to Trinity every Sunday morning.

So you think Wright represents and speaks for the black community?

so the other guy was Tomming?

This is how people expose their ignorance...
No ONE PERSON speaks for the ENTIRE Black community.

Allow me to illustrate the misunderstanding. Eoe was responding to the bolded sentence and my interpretation was that the eye roll was to the person you were quoting, not to you.

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spin it as you like...

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IMO, it was a mistake not to distance himself from Wright sooner.

The "radical preacher" link has sunk far too many campaigns.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

spin it as you like...

Spin it? I read it sequentially, linearly, if you will. You'd have to spin it to take what you took from it. I realize you don't see it the same. Or you realize it was a misunderstanding but don't have the balls to say so.

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