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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2010 04:02 pm
@plainoldme,
Actually Denmark may exhibit a slight libertarian bent. From the following it seems that not only is it, reportedly, a great place to live but also to work.
Driving, however, may present its own series of challanges other than tiny cars. From today's WSJ's James Taranto's Best of the Web column:
Quote:
The Drinkers United Will Never Be Defeated!
"Scores of Carlsberg workers walked off their jobs in protest Thursday after the Danish brewer tightened laid-back rules on workplace drinking and removed beer coolers from work sites," the Associated Press reports from Copenhagen:

The warehouse and production workers in Denmark are rebelling against the company's new alcohol policy, which allows them to drink beer only during lunch hours in the canteen. Previously, they could help themselves to beer throughout the day, from coolers placed around the work sites. . . .
Truck drivers joined the strike in sympathy--even though they are exempt from the new rules.

Well, at least Carlsberg isn't so extreme as to prevent the drivers from drinking. Still, we've actually found a solution to this. When we work, we usually have ready access to not only beer but a fully stocked liquor cabinet. We don't actually drink that much on the job, but it's nice to have the option. The Carlsberg workers ought to look into telecommuting.

Smile

I must agree. Choice is good whether that be about drinking or buying health insurance. November, like Christmas, is coming.

JM
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 11 Apr, 2010 08:08 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

plainoldme wrote:

Denmark is a tiny country with high taxes but the standard of living is extraordinary.

Have you been there? I have, and I have relatives there. Yes, it is a nice country with decent living, but no way do they live as nice there as here. In general, housing is small and cramped, and people do not in any way enjoy the amenities that we have here. Seldom do you even see a pickup truck, few if any campers and when you see one it is of little size, not much recreation in the way of outdoor recreation and that sort of thing, their lives are pretty much restricted to the basics of surviving, working, coming home, and watching TV. Their flats or apartments are small, their yards are small, and little room for gardens, parking is highly limited around housing, and cars are so small as to be difficult to go anywhere with more than a passenger or two. In big cities, transportation is often by smelly buses or subway, no thanks as far as I am concerned, and it also makes me think of London, where you can keep that hellhole as far as I am concerned, I had enough of riding the underground there. I don't know how you judge standard of living, but mine compared to my relatives in Denmark are infinitely nicer, although I would not tell them that. I do however admire the Danes, who take pride in their country and you do not see junk in their yards, the homes are well kept and flowers abound.

I see that plainoldme has had no answer to my above post. My post of course is absolutely correct in all points, based upon personal knowledge and direct observation, while in contrast I doubt pom has ever been to Denmark and she probably forms most of her ideas based upon liberal talking points, hearsay, or pre-conceived notions that fits her view of the world.
okie
 
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Reply Sun 11 Apr, 2010 08:16 pm
By the way, countries like Denmark are cited as prime examples of why universal health care is so desirable, but even with the ubiquitous population there, life expectancy is 78 years, the same as the United States, where we have more problems with obesity and all manner of other things that skew the statistics, which tells me that we very likely have a much superior health care system. I also have the luxury of knowing how my relatives fare with the system, and it is not all that wonderful, with lengthy waits to schedule visits to the doctor or medical facilities when problems are pressing, plus other problems.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 07:47 am
Quote:
AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND


Conservatism in America is main stream America and it's only going to get stronger.

American Conservatism has always been The Silent Majority, but the Tea Party has given it a voice.

This Constitutional Republic will survive Obama and it will thrive once again.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 10:38 am
Quote:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=19204&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD
DID FDR END THE DEPRESSION?
"He got us out of the Great Depression." That's probably the most frequent comment made about President Franklin Roosevelt, who died 65 years ago today. It's a myth. FDR did not get us out of the Great Depression -- not during the 1930s, and only in a limited sense during World War II, say Burton Folsom Jr., a professor of history at Hillsdale College, and Anita Folsom, director of Hillsdale College's annual Free Market Forum.

Let's start with the New Deal:

Its various alphabet-soup agencies -- the WPA, AAA, NRA and even the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority)--failed to create sustainable jobs.

In May 1939, U.S. unemployment still exceeded 20 percent, while European countries, according to a League of Nations survey, averaged only about 12 percent in 1938.

The New Deal, by forcing taxes up and discouraging entrepreneurs from investing, probably did more harm than good.

What about World War II? We need to understand that the near-full employment during the conflict was temporary, says the Folsoms:

Ten million to 12 million soldiers overseas and another 10 million to 15 million people making tanks, bullets and war materiel do not a lasting recovery make.

The country essentially traded temporary jobs for a skyrocketing national debt. Many of those jobs had little or no value after the war.

Roosevelt died before the war ended and before he could implement his New Deal revival. His successor, Harry Truman, in a 16,000 word message on Sept. 6, 1945, urged Congress to enact FDR's ideas as the best way to achieve full employment after the war.

Congress -- both chambers with Democratic majorities -- responded by just saying "no." No to the whole New Deal revival: No federal program for health care, no full-employment act, only limited federal housing, and no increase in minimum wage or Social Security benefits.

Instead, Congress reduced taxes, and the American economy recovered well, say the Folsoms. Unemployment, which had been in double digits throughout the 1930s, was only 3.9 percent in 1946 and, except for a couple of short recessions, remained in that range for the next decade.

Source: Burton Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom, "Did FDR End the Depression?" Wall Street Journal, April 12, 2010.

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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 11:39 am
Quote:

Congressional Reform Act of 2010

1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.

A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

2. No Tenure / No Pension:
A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11 .

The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

_______
If you agree with the above, pass it on to all in your address list. If not, just delete.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 11:45 am
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Quote:

Congressional Reform Act of 2010

1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.

A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

2. No Tenure / No Pension:
A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11 .

The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

_______
If you agree with the above, pass it on to all in your address list. If not, just delete.



I actually agree with all of these - except that Congressmen and Senators who have been elected should be able to serve out their terms under current contract rates and rules, it's just easier that way.

Not that either party would ever let such a thing pass.

Cycloptichorn
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JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 03:41 pm
The latest:
Quote:
As support for ObamaCare repeal hits new high, support for Obama hits new low
By: John McCormack
Weekly Standard
04/12/10 4:45 PM EDT
Rasmussen:

Three weeks after Congress passed its new national health care plan, support for repeal of the measure has risen four points to 58%. That includes 50% of U.S. voters who strongly favor repeal.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters nationwide finds 38% still oppose repeal, including 32% who strongly oppose it.

Chicago Tribune:

President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has slid to 45 percent today in the Gallup Poll’s daily tracking, a rolling average of the past three days’ surveys.

That’s a new low in the Gallup tracks " which found the president’s approval rating at a previous low of 46 percent in early March.

Any chance these two stories are related?



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/as-support-for-obamacare-repeal-hits-new-high-support-for-obama-hits-new-low-90669319.html#ixzz0kvN1X75z


JM
JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 04:01 pm
@JamesMorrison,
I wonder how many of the 38% that oppose repeal fall into this category:
Quote:
Read the bill: Obamacare socks middle class with $3.9 billion tax increase
By: Mark Hemingway
Commentary Staff Writer
04/12/10 4:04 PM EDT
One more small detail they forgot to tell you about in the health care bill:

Taxpayers earning less than $200,000 a year will pay roughly $3.9 billion more in taxes " in 2019 alone " because of healthcare reform, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation, Congress’ official scorekeeper for legislation.

The new law raises $15.2 billion over 10 years by limiting the medical expense deduction, a provision widely used by taxpayers who either have a serious illness or are older.

Taxpayers can currently deduct medical expenses in excess of 7.5 percent of their adjusted gross income. Starting in 2013, most taxpayers will only be allowed to deducted expenses greater than 10 percent of AGI. Older taxpayers are hit by this threshold increase in 2017.

This is worse than a tax on the middle class. It’s a tax on the middle class who are seriously ill. And what’s the over/under on how may times Obama is going to break that “no taxes on anyone earning under $250,000 a year” pledge, anyway?



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/read-the-bill-obamacare-socks-middle-class-with-39-billion-tax-increase.html#ixzz0kvOHjCZo


and how many of that 38% are the 47% of working Americans that no longer pay taxes and/or those workers that actually get money from the federal government (in addition to their Wage/Salaries)? I also wonder how many of that 38% don't work at all and, other than retirees, still get money from the federal/state government?

All this a good argument for a fair flat tax (and not the "Fair Tax").

JM
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 04:07 pm
@JamesMorrison,
You realize that this works out to around $250 per person IF it were to be averaged out; as it won't be averaged out, it's actually far less then that for the vast majority of people. Big whoop.

What more, you - like most conservatives - have a basic misunderstanding of what the meaning of so many people not paying taxes really is. It's almost funny, but mostly just sad.

Cycloptichorn

okie
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 08:20 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
What more, you - like most conservatives - have a basic misunderstanding of what the meaning of so many people not paying taxes really is. It's almost funny, but mostly just sad.

Cycloptichorn



What part of not paying taxes do you not get, cyclops? Its basically math, if you understand math, maybe not? Also, I wonder how many or what percentage of those free loaders are Democrat voters, now that would be an interesting statistic to know too?
old europe
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 09:09 pm
Recently somebody posted the results of a Gallup poll that showed that the demographics of Teapartiers were mostly mainstream, but slightly more likely to be male and less likely to be lower-income. So here's an interesting followup, via FiveThirtyEight, and in it's entirety:

Quote:
New Data on Tea Party Sympathizers

Last week, the ongoing debate over what we know about the tea partiers took a new turn, with scores of conservative commentators like The LA Times' Andrew Malcolm and Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds assuring us that a new Gallup poll proves the TPers are not a "fringe" or "racist" group.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZTcCp8eYEyI/S8I8xuDlK8I/AAAAAAAAARs/L3JgsUBTR64/s400/tea+party+racism1.PNG

But the Gallup results only confirm that tea partiers are "mainstream" in their demographics, when what really matters are their attitudes. Results released Friday of a new multi-state poll of white voters conducted by the University of Washington's Christopher Parker paint a more complicated picture. The survey asked white respondents about their attitudes toward the tea party movement--and their attitudes toward non-whites, immigrants and homosexuals.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZTcCp8eYEyI/S8I94TO50II/AAAAAAAAAR0/tzF5jXgBUBI/s400/tea+party+racism2.PNG

The charts contained herein show the disparity between whites who strongly approve and disapprove of the tea party movement. In a few cases -- attitudes toward Latinos, for instance -- the differences were small. But only in a few cases: tea party sympathizers believe blacks are less intelligent, hardworking and trustworthy. They appear to be particularly wary of immigrants. And they don't much care for gays, either. (Although note that two-thirds of them support gays in the military, an issue on which policy has long lagged public sentiment.)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZTcCp8eYEyI/S8I-FbYOmfI/AAAAAAAAAR8/_s015W3xP9I/s400/tea+party+racism3.PNG

Again, this is a comparison of white attitudes, not differences between whites and non-whites. Which means that avid white tea party sympathizers do not even hold mainstream attitudes among whites. If we included the attitudes of non-whites, the views of white tea party sympathizers would be even more aberrant.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZTcCp8eYEyI/S8JBgycxO3I/AAAAAAAAASE/oZxaE88QElo/s400/tea+party+racism4.PNG

Some conservatives believe there is a systematic attempt to demonize the tea party movement and their supporters. There is probably some truth to that. But in the same vein, aberrant opinions espoused by tea partiers or their sympathizers should neither be ignored nor papered-over.

Parker's study shows much higher levels of intolerance among whites who sympathize with the tea party movement. To be clear, the splits compare those who strongly disapprove or approve of the tea partiers, so the differences reflect those whites with polarized attitudes toward the movement. And the study might be more instructive if it compared compared the tea-partiers views toward those of white conservatives or white Republicans, or differentiated between those who are merely empathetic toward the tea-party movement and those who have actively participated in it. But it's safe to say that those who are sympathetic to the tea party movement do not hold mainstream views on issues related to race and identity politics.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 09:30 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
What more, you - like most conservatives - have a basic misunderstanding of what the meaning of so many people not paying taxes really is. It's almost funny, but mostly just sad.

Cycloptichorn



What part of not paying taxes do you not get, cyclops? Its basically math, if you understand math, maybe not? Also, I wonder how many or what percentage of those free loaders are Democrat voters, now that would be an interesting statistic to know too?


'Not paying taxes' means that you are poor enough that you have to spend almost all your money to make it in life, so the gov't doesn't take that last little bit from you. That's what 'pays no income tax' means. It doesn't mean that you are a freeloader.

And you guys act as if these people are living the good life somewhere. It's a sad thing, not a good thing.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 06:46 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:


'Not paying taxes' means that you are poor enough that you have to spend almost all your money to make it in life, so the gov't doesn't take that last little bit from you. That's what 'pays no income tax' means. It doesn't mean that you are a freeloader.



Cyclotroll is wrong again.

The people C describes above are career moochers and they are spending OPM.
Monies taken from hard working Americans and given to the so-called poor in exchange for their votes.
Tax credits, food stamps etc.. are part of this gov't vote buying program.

It's obvious that Cyclotroll's out of touch with reality... maybe he/she should run for office.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 07:00 am
Here are some principles on which the Republicans might run:


1. The House Ways and Means committee, now under Republican leadership, will immediately hold hearings on the FairTax.

2. Pledge to take all unspent stimulus funds and apply them to the deficit.

3. Introduce legislation implementing GOP ideas for health care reform, including allowing people to buy insurance across state lines.

4. Block any attempts to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Make it clear that the Republican Party recognizes the value of immigration and its
role in the formation of our country; but that the rule of law is also an important component of the American story and it must be honored.

5. If the Republicans gain control in the Senate there will be no more Obama-appointed liberal activist judges appointed to federal courts.

6. Pledge to honor the U.S. Constitution as written by our founding fathers, not as re-written by liberal activists.

7. Pledge to reduce the size of government when the opportunity strikes - when the Republicans control the congress and the White House.
Start by eliminating the Department of education.

8. Hold hearings on the whether or not government employee unions serve the best interests of this country and the taxpayers;
and that includes the teacher's unions.

9. Pledge to promote school choice nationwide. Adopt the theory that the tax money should follow the child to the school of the parent's
choice, not the child following the money.

10. Begin work immediately to divest government holdings in all private businesses.

Neal Boortz
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 07:35 am
@Cycloptichorn,


Speaking of the poor... Responsibility to the Poor
JamesMorrison
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 02:33 pm
@H2O MAN,
GOOD NEWS FOR CONSERVATIVES AND FOR AMERICAN LIBERTY IN GENERAL

For those conservatives that are interested The Heritage Foundation ( a much respected conservative think tank and a 501(c)(3)) has now linked itself to a 501(c)(4), called Heritage Action for America. If interested sign up for free updates here: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/04/heritage%20to%20launch%20grassroots%20advocacy%20group

Or here: http://www.heritageforamerica.org/
It’s free for the updates.

A more in depth explanation of the relevance of the combo is here:
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/04/12/ed-feulner-makes-the-left-soil-its-collectivist-self/

EDWIN J. FEULNER AND MICHAEL A. NEEDHAM president of The Heritage Foundation and CEO of Heritage for America, respectively, give an overview of the project here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304222504575173850070877846.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopOpinion

As Erickson of RS tells us at the above cited URL:
Quote:
"For a few years, the right sat on the sidelines while groups like Center for American Progress and other leftwing agitation and noise machines set up 501(c)(4) groups tied into 501(c)(3) groups. The tax code was murky at best and the left took risks while the right sat it out. Many a right-of-center lawyer advised caution while the left damned the torpedoes and went full speed ahead.

Consequently, most major advocacy groups on the 501(c)4) books with a concurrent (c)(3) are leftwing."
So, now conservatives can put direct and constant pressure on lawmakers to think before they cast that budget busting vote. However, it does seem that the Heritage Action for America group might be too late to save many Democrats from spending more time with their families.

As far as I can see, this is only a national effort on their part but I may be wrong. However, what may be at least as important is deploying this type of effort on the local level. Where this could have a significant impact on the future of this country is in the state legislatures. We should strive to elect more conservatives here, after all, isn't this where reapportionment of legislative districts happens? Wink

JM
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 03:16 pm
Income tax rates have been decreasing since 2003 as a result of annual increases in the tax brackets. However, federal tax receipts have been increasing over the same period. Consequently, increases in federal spending greater than increases in federal receipts are the real cause of increasing deficits.
Quote:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html
U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2008
...
1913
All tax payers-taxable- income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
1% ........................... 000,000 ...... 020,000
2% ........................... 020,000 ...... 050,000
3% ........................... 050,000 ...... 075,000
4% ........................... 075,000 ...... 100,000
5% ........................... 100,000 ...... 250,000
6% ........................... 250,000 ...... 500,000
7% ........................... 500,000 ........

1963
Married tax payers filing jointly--taxable income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
20% ........................... 000,000 ...... 004,000
22% ........................... 004,000 ...... 008,000
26% ........................... 008,000 ...... 012,000
89% ........................... 200,000 ...... 300,000
90% ........................... 300,000 ...... 400,000
91.0% ........................ 400,000 ..........

1992
Married tax payers filing jointly--taxable income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
15% ........................... 000,000 ...... 035,800
28% ........................... 035,800 ...... 086,500
31% ........................... 086,500 .........

2000
Married tax payers filing jointly--taxable income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
15% ........................... 000,000 ...... 043,050
28% ........................... 043,050 ...... 104,050
31% ........................... 104,050 ...... 158,550
36% ........................... 158,550 ...... 283,150
39.6% ........................ 283,150 ........

2003
Married tax payers filing jointly--taxable income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
10% ........................... 000,000...... 014,000
15% ........................... 014,000...... 056,800
25% ........................... 056,800...... 114,650
28% ........................... 114,650...... 174,700
33% ........................... 174,700...... 311,950
35% ........................... 311,950.........

2008
Married tax payers filing jointly--taxable income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
10% ........................... 000,000 ...... 016,050
15% ........................... 016,050 ...... 065,100
25% ........................... 065,100 ...... 131,450
28% ........................... 131,450 ...... 200,300
33% ........................... 200,300 ...... 357,700
35% ........................... 357,700 .........

2009
Married tax payers filing jointly--taxable income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
10% ........................... 000,000 ...... 016,700
15% ........................... 016,700 ...... 067,900
25% ........................... 067,900 ...... 137,050
28% ........................... 137,050 ...... 208,850
33% ........................... 208,850 ...... 372,950
35% ........................... 372,950 .........

2010
Married tax payers filing jointly--taxable income
marginal tax rate ..... over ........... but not over
10% ........................... 000,000 ...... 016,750
15% ........................... 016,750 ...... 068,000
25% ........................... 068,000 ...... 137,300
28% ........................... 137,300 ...... 209,250
33% ........................... 209,250 ...... 373,650
35% ........................... 373,650 .........

ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 03:20 pm
@ican711nm,
So, the best way to balance the budget is to decrease spending and not increase taxes.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 03:46 pm
Quote:

http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2010&month=04
April 2010
Stephen Markman
Justice, Michigan Supreme Court

The Coming Constitutional Debate
Stephen Markman was appointed Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court in 1999, and was re-elected in 2000 and 2004. Previously, he served as United States Attorney in Michigan; as Assistant Attorney General under President Ronald Reagan, where he coordinated the federal judicial selection process; and as Chief Counsel of the Senate Subcommittee on the Constitution. He has published in such journals as the Stanford Law Review and the University of Chicago Law Review, and has been a distinguished professor of constitutional law at Hillsdale College since 1993.

The following is adapted from a speech delivered in Washington, D.C., on February 25, 2010, at an event sponsored by Hillsdale College’s Allan P. Kirby, Jr. Center for Constitutional Studies and Citizenship.

AS ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL under President Ronald Reagan, I prepared a report for Attorney General Edwin Meese entitled “The Constitution in the Year 2000: Choices Ahead.” This report sought to identify a range of areas in which significant constitutional controversy could be expected over the next 20 years. As critical as I believe those controversies were, they pale in significance before the controversies that will arise over the next several decades. The resolution of these emerging controversies will determine whether the Constitution of 2030 bears any resemblance to the Constitution of 1787"the Framers’ Constitution that has guided this nation for most of its first two centuries and has rendered it the freest, most prosperous, and most creative nation in the history of the world.

Proponents of a “21st century constitution” or “living constitution” aim to transform our nation’s supreme law beyond recognition"and with a minimum of public attention and debate. Indeed, if there is an overarching theme to what they wish to achieve, it is the diminishment of the democratic and representative processes of American government. It is the replacement of a system of republican government, in which the constitution is largely focused upon the architecture of government in order to minimize the likelihood of abuse of power, with a system of judicial government, in which substantive policy outcomes are increasingly determined by federal judges. Rather than merely defining broad rules of the game for the legislative and executive branches of government, the new constitution would compel specific outcomes.

Yes, the forms of the Founders’ Constitution would remain"a bicameral legislature, periodic elections, state governments"but the important decisions would increasingly be undertaken by courts, especially by federal courts. It will be the California referendum process writ national, a process by which the decisions of millions of voters on matters such as racial quotas, social services funding, and immigration policy have been routinely overturned by single judges acting in the name of the Constitution"not the Framers’ Constitution, but a “constitution for our times,” a “living constitution,” resembling, sadly, the constitutions of failed and despotic nations across the globe.

This radical transformation of American political life will occur, if it succeeds, not through high-profile court decisions resolving grand disputes of war and peace, abortion, capital punishment, or the place of religion in public life, but more likely as the product of decisions resolving forgettable and mundane disputes"the kind mentioned on the back pages of our daily newspapers, if at all. Let me provide a brief summary of six of the more popular theories of the advocates of the 21st century constitution. In particular, it is my hope here to inform ordinary citizens so that they will be better aware of the stakes. For while judges and lawyers may be its custodians, the Constitution is a document that is the heritage and responsibility of every American citizen.

1. Privileges or Immunities Clause
Since shortly after the Civil War, the privileges or immunities clause of the 14th Amendment has been understood as protecting a relatively limited array of rights that are a function of American federal citizenship, such as the right to be heard in courts of justice and the right to diplomatic protection. In defining the protections of the privileges or immunities clause in this manner, the Supreme Court in the Slaughterhouse Cases (1873) rejected the argument that the clause also protects rights that are a function of state citizenship, asserting that this would lead to federal courts serving as a “perpetual censor” of state and local governments. This decision has served as a bulwark of American federalism.

Although a considerable amount of federal judicial authority has since been achieved over the states through interpretations of the due process clause of the 14th Amendment, many proponents of a 21st century constitution seek additional federal oversight of state and local laws. Their strategy in this regard is to refashion the privileges or immunities clause as a new and essentially unlimited bill of rights within the 14th Amendment. The practical consequences of this would be to authorize federal judges to impose an ever broader and more stultifying uniformity upon the nation. Whatever modicum of federalism remains extant at the outset of this century, considerably less would remain tomorrow.

2. Positive Rights
For the 21st century constitutionalist, perhaps the greatest virtue of redefining the privileges or immunities clause is the prospect of transforming the Constitution from a guarantor of “negative liberties” into a charter of “affirmative government,” guaranteeing an array of “positive” rights. As President Obama has observed in a radio interview in criticism of the legacy of the Warren Court of the 1950s and 1960s, “[It] never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and . . . more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. . . . [T]he Warren Court . . . wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution. . . that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can’t do to you, says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.”

President Obama is correct. The Framers’ Constitution defines individual rights in terms of what the government cannot do to you. For example, the government cannot inflict cruel and unusual punishment, and therefore the individual has a constitutional right not to be subject to such punishment; the government cannot engage in unreasonable searches and seizures, and therefore the individual has a constitutional right not to be subject to such searches and seizures, and so forth. By contrast, the Framers’ Constitution does not guarantee rights to material goods such as housing, education, food, clothing, jobs, or health care"rights that place a related obligation upon the state to obtain the resources from other citizens to pay for them.

Proponents of a 21st century constitution have many grievances with the individual rights premises of our Constitution as written"such as the largely procedural focus of the 14th Amendment’s due process clause, with its old-fashioned conception of such rights as those to “life, liberty, and property”; the negative cast of the specifically-defined rights in the Bill of Rights; and the limited application of the equal rights clause to things that have been enacted by legislatures (as opposed to things that they should have been required to enact). Each of these “limitations” poses significant barriers to what 21st century constitutionalists hope to achieve in reconfiguring America. This explains their interest in employing the privileges or immunities clause, which seems to them open-ended and susceptible to definition by judges at their own discretion.

As various advocates of a 21st century constitution have urged, a privilege or immunity might be interpreted to allow the invention of a host of new “rights,” and thus be construed to guarantee social or economic equality. However pleasing this might sound to some people, there should be no mistake: adopting this interpretation will supplant representative decision-making with the decision-making of unelected, unaccountable, and life-tenured judges. Should the privileges or immunities clause be used in this way, as a charter of positive rights, ours will become an America in which citizens are constitutionally entitled to their neighbors’ possessions; in which economic redistribution has become as ingrained a principle as federalism and the separation of powers; in which the great constitutional issues of the day will focus on whether porridge should be subsidized and housing allowances reimbursed at 89 or 94 percent of the last fiscal year level; and in which a succession of new “rights” will be parceled out as people are deemed worthy of them by berobed lawyers in the judiciary.

3. State Action
A barrier posed by both the due process and the privileges or immunities clauses, and viewed as anachronistic by 21st century constitutionalists, is the requirement of state action as a precondition for the enforcement of rights. In the Civil Rights Cases (1883), another post-Civil War precedent, the Supreme Court asserted that these provisions of the 14th Amendment prohibited only the abridgment of individual rights by the state. “It is state action of a particular character that is prohibited. . . . The wrongful act of an individual is simply a private wrong and if not sanctioned in some way by the state, or not done under state authority, the [individual’s] rights remain in full force.” However, for advocates of 21st century constitutionalism, if fairness and equity are to be achieved, the Constitution must become more like a general legal code"applicable to both public and private institutions.

Consider, for example, Hillsdale College. Despite being the embodiment of a thoroughly private institution, government officials have sought to justify the imposition of federal rules and regulations upon Hillsdale by characterizing the college as the equivalent of a state entity on the grounds that it received public grants-in-aid. When in response to this rationale, and in order to retain its independence, Hillsdale rejected further grants, the government then sought to justify its rules and regulations on the grounds that Hillsdale was the indirect beneficiary of grants-in-aid going to individual students, such as GI Bill benefits. Once again in response to this rationale, Hillsdale asserted its independence by barring its students from receiving public grants, even those earned as in the case of GI benefits, and instead bolstered its own private scholarship resources. We have witnessed a steadily more aggressive effort by governmental regulators to treat private institutions as the equivalent of the state, and thereby to extend public oversight.

However, it would be more convenient simply to nullify the state action requirement altogether. Professor Mark Tushnet of Harvard Law School, for example, would reconsider the Civil Rights Cases:
The state-action doctrine contributes nothing but obfuscation to constitutional analysis. It works as a bogeyman because it appeals to a vague libertarian sense that Americans have about the proper relation between them and their government. It seems to suggest that there is a domain of freedom into which the Constitution doesn’t reach. We would be well rid of the doctrine.

If Professor Tushnet succeeds in this mission, Hillsdale’s policies concerning such things as tuition, admissions, faculty hiring, curriculum, and discipline will each have to pass the scrutiny, and receive the imprimatur, of judges.

4. Political Questions
In areas that were once viewed as inappropriate for judicial involvement, federal courts have begun to assert themselves in an unprecedented and aggressive manner. The limited role of the judiciary, for example, with regard to matters of national defense and foreign policy is not explicitly set forth in the Constitution, but such matters have from time immemorial been understood to be non-justiciable and within the exclusive responsibility of the elected branches of government. As far back as Marbury v. Madison (1803), Chief Justice John Marshall recognized that “Questions in their nature political . . . can never be made in this Court.”

Yet just in the last several years, the Supreme Court, in a series of 5-4 decisions, has overruled determinations made by both the legislative and executive branches regarding the treatment of captured enemy combatants. Most notably, the Court ruled in Boumediene v. Bush (2008) that foreign nationals captured in combat and held outside the United States by the military as prisoners of war"a war authorized by the Congress under Article I, Section 8, and waged by the President as Commander-in-Chief under Article II, Section 2"possess the constitutional right to challenge their detentions in federal court. Thus, in yet one more realm of public policy"one on which the sovereignty and liberty of a free people are most dependent, national defense"judges have now begun to embark upon a sharply expanded role.

If there is no significant realm left of “political questions,” if there are no longer any traditional limitations upon the exercise of the judicial power, then every matter coming before every president, every Congress, every governor, every legislature, and every county commission and city council can, with little difficulty, be summarily recast as a justiciable dispute, or what the Constitution, in Article III, Section 2, describes as a “case” or “controversy.” As a result, every policy debate taking place within government, at every level, will become little more than a prelude for judicial resolution.

5. Ninth Amendment
Another looming constitutional battleground concerns the meaning of the Ninth Amendment to the Constitution: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.” Many 21st century constitutionalists understand this amendment to say that there is some unknown array of unenumerated rights that lie fallow in the Constitution, waiting only to be unearthed by far-sighted judges.

Professor Thomas Grey of the Stanford Law School has suggested, for example, that the Ninth Amendment constitutes a “license to constitutional decisionmakers to look beyond the substantive commands of the constitutional text to protect fundamental rights not expressed therein.” Rights to abortion, contraception, homosexual behavior, and similar sexual privacy rights have already been imposed by judges detecting such rights in the Ninth Amendment. The problem is that, in the words of Justices Stewart and Black, this understanding of the amendment “turns somersaults with history” and renders the courts a “day-to-day constitutional convention.”

The more conventional understanding of the Ninth Amendment has viewed it in the historical context of the Bill of Rights, of which it is a part. By this understanding, it was written to dispel any implication that by the specification of particular rights in the Bill of Rights, the people had implicitly relinquished to the new federal government rights not specified. Like the Tenth Amendment"which serves as a reminder that powers neither given to the federal government nor prohibited to the states in the Constitution are reserved to the states or to the people"the Ninth Amendment was adopted to emphasize that our national government is one of limited powers. Its principal purpose was to prevent an extension of federal power, not to provide an open-ended grant of judicial authority that would have the opposite effect.

6. Transnationalism
Professor Harold Koh of the Yale Law School, and now State Department Legal Counsel, is perhaps the leading proponent of what he calls “transnationalism,” which he contrasts with the “nationalist philosophy” that has characterized American constitutional law for the past 220 years.

Transnationalists believe that international and domestic law are merging into a hybrid body of transnational law, while so-called nationalists persist in preserving a division between domestic and foreign law that respects the sovereignty of the United States. Transnationalists believe that domestic courts have a critical role to play in incorporating international law into domestic law, while so-called nationalists claim that only the political branches are authorized to domesticate international legal norms. Professor Koh predicts that these disagreements will play out in future Supreme Court confirmation hearings, and that these appointments will be “pivotal” in determining by 2020 the direction in which the jurisprudence of the United States proceeds.

In practice, transnationalism would legitimize reliance by American judges upon foreign law in giving meaning to the United States Constitution; it would bind federal and state governments to international treaties and agreements that had never been ratified by the United States Senate much less enacted into law by the Congress; it would render both the domestic and international conduct of the United States increasingly beholden to the review and judgment of international tribunals in Geneva and the Hague; it would expose American soldiers and elected leaders to the sanctions of international law for “war crimes” and “violations of the Earth”; and it would replace the judgments of officials representing the American people, and holding paramount the interests of the United States, with the judgments of multinational panels of bureaucrats and judges finely balancing the interests of the U.S. with those of other nations"including authoritarian and despotic governments"throughout the world.

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It is with the intention of generating debate, and of providing a roadmap to help us better navigate the constitutional forks-in-the-road that will soon be facing our nation, that I offer these thoughts. While there has never been a time in our history in which there was not serious constitutional debate among our people, I would submit that there have been few times in which this debate was more fundamental in defining the American experiment.

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