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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
okie
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 11:15 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

Since when did criticizing congresscritters become illegal?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1209/Grayson_wants_to_imprison_critic.html?showall

Quote:
Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), prone for throwing his own political bombs at Republicans, has threatened a local critic with five years in jail for creating the website “mycongressmanisnuts.com,”

The Orlando Sentinel reports that Grayson wrote a letter this week to Attorney General Eric Holder demanding that the federal government imprison Republican activist Angie Langley for five years because of her website criticizing him.


Isnt this the guy that called a woman a "K Street Whore"?

Go to the "news" part of the website and read some of the articles about Grayson.
They are frightening.

Leftists in this counry are no less dangerous and radical than leftists all over the world in history, such as Castro, Chairman Mao, Stalin, and all the rest of them. They are egotistical, they think they are above criticism, and they will if allowed shut up and even imprison their political opponents. We are indeed living in a very critical and dangerous time in our history, and it remains to be seen whether the American people as a whole will see the light and return to their better senses at the polling places, and return the government to some form of sanity and decency, to a government that does not insist upon taking more and more of our rights and responsibilities away from us, the citizens, and granting those rights to the almighty State. Leftists believe in the total and absolute power of the State, which can require just steamrolling any citizens and their rights, if they get into their way. Might makes right.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 12:51 pm
Good article in a few ways

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/62673/

but best of all (related to the title of this thread)

Quote:
columnist David Brooks (who is a conservative in the true sense, if not always in a political one these days)
okie
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 01:30 pm
@ehBeth,
Anytime a conservative gets rapped up too far into pop culture, that conservative can have an identity crisis. A long time ago, when in Colorado and when a Roy Romer was governor there, he made it very clear about how he idolized Springsteen, and Romer was no conservative, that much was for sure.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 01:56 pm
@okie,
Yeah, that Ronald Reagan, he was no conservative.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 02:16 pm
@okie,
Quote:
Anytime a conservative gets rapped[sic] up too far into pop culture, that conservative can have an identity crisis.


That's a given, Okie. Your and their simple minds just can't handle new ideas, thoughts that haven't been mushed int an easily digested pablum suitable for memorization and regurgitation as needed.

This whole thread has been a constant regurgitation of conservative talking points dutifully spewed out by you and the gang.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 03:31 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Quote:

That's a given, Okie. Your and their simple minds just can't handle new ideas, thoughts that haven't been mushed int an easily digested pablum suitable for memorization and regurgitation as needed.


The biggest problem is that have no conception of facts, evidence, or real life experience, and that shows how ignorant they have "become." That they keep advocating for the wealthy with more tax cuts proves their inability to see the damage it's doing to our economy and future generations with a huge deficit that will handicap them for generations to come with inflation and the loss of value of the US dollar.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 07:11 pm
@okie,
Leave it to okie and MM to support violations of the federal law.

When someone files for tax exempt status and lies on the forms, they have committed a crime. While Grayson may be making it personal, his allegations are about actual law breaking.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 07:39 pm
The Obama thieving coveters don't give a damn about the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the USA, and the rule of law. The Tea Partiers ought to adopt the same view until they have rid our country of the Obama thieving coveters.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 07:45 pm
@ican711nm,
The Tea baggers DID adopt that view ican. The rule of law and the Constitution both govern Obama being President. Not accepting that is to not give a damn about either.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 07:47 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
But humans forfeit those rights they deny others.

It's funny that you would put that in your signature ican with the way you want to deprive others of their rights.
okie
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 08:31 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Leave it to okie and MM to support violations of the federal law.

When someone files for tax exempt status and lies on the forms, they have committed a crime. While Grayson may be making it personal, his allegations are about actual law breaking.

Democrats have no problem with breaking laws and encouraging others to do the same. Examples abound, from ACORN signing up fictitious voters to giving away all kinds of stuff to non-citizens, and encouraging illegals, even to the extent of providing sanctuary cities for illegals.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 08:37 pm
@okie,
Oh.. so it's ok for you to personally encourage and endorse law breaking because you are a "librul?"
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 21 Dec, 2009 08:46 pm
@parados,
There is nothing wrong with a little law breaking. I do and encourage others to do so often.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2009 04:06 am
@parados,
Quote:
Leave it to okie and MM to support violations of the federal law.


Since you seem to like to include me with Okie, please show where I EVER supported violating federal law!!
parados
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2009 07:48 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:



Since when did criticizing congresscritters become illegal?

The letter from Grayson does not allege that criticizing is illegal. It alleges that federal law was broken.

You are free to disagree with the allegations but by mischaracterizing them as nothing more than criticism you seem to be supporting violating federal law.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2009 08:13 am
@parados,
In looking at the website, it appears that Grayson's allegations are true.

There is no reference to any other congressman or candidate on the website. This is the filing with the FEC
http://images.nictusa.com/pdf/214/29030184214/29030184214.pdf#navpanes=0

As to this being worthy of a prosecution? hard to say, but it certainly violates campaign laws and requires a fine and action by the FEC.
Angie is either lying to her donors or lying to the FEC. Either one violates the law.
okie
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2009 11:06 am
@parados,
Is criticizing a Democrat now illegal?
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2009 04:31 pm
@parados,
I want to deprive you and your fellow thieving c0veters of your deprivations of other people's rights and your violations of the rule of law. I expect it will ultimately require a vigilante committee to achieve that.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2009 04:40 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Is criticizing a Democrat now illegal?


Yes, it has been since Obama's coronation.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2009 05:29 pm
@ican711nm,
Better get your little Cessna equipped with 22 cal rifles and start working on a carrier for your water bombs, Ican.

Jesus, what a nut case!
 

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