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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 13 Dec, 2009 12:37 pm
@okie,
Your list of admired personalities shows us exactly why you post as you do. You don't have a clue about truth or facts; you only repeat what you hear and learn from those list of liars that attract people like you.

List anyone on your list, and type "? lies." It's not the numbers that counts; it's the facts that you can't challenge that counts.
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okie
 
  1  
Reply Sun 13 Dec, 2009 10:07 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
... your choice of libel instead!


There isn't as yet, a word to describe your level of stupidity, Ican. CI put the facts that OKIE ASKED FOR right in front of his nose and he did what idiots like you always do, shift to your mind-numbingly stupid regurgitations.

Perhaps you are not aware, but I have had ci on ignore for a long time. I got tired of his constant mindless insults and posts with little or no information. So whatever he posted was I am sure just some leftwing Bush hater website. No thanks, something more credible than that is needed, I have no interest in ci's nonsense.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 13 Dec, 2009 10:29 pm
@okie,
And your Ignore leaves you completely ignorant about evidence, facts, and reality.
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ican711nm
 
  1  
Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2009 05:36 pm
Quote:
Liberty movement activists take over GOP in Nevada
Posted: 13 Dec 2009 09:02 PM PST
Last Saturday I was invited as a guest on Fox News with Brian Wilson to discuss some of the 2010 efforts within the movement. I cited an event where movement activists had taken over the GOP in Clark County (Las Vegas) Nevada.

You can watch the Fox News Segment below.

Since the segment aired, I’ve received countless emails asking about the Nevada incident. This is an interesting story considering the large amount of attention my poll got on our website about a week ago. The poll I posted, which asked about the method the movement should rally behind to achieve mass success in 2010, had more than 10,000 visits, 4,300 votes and 400 or so comments.

The following is where the results stand as of the time of this post:
Where do you think the movement should go in 2010?
-The movement needs to take over the GOP 51% (2,228 votes)
-Third party… it’s time for the two parties to be taken down 21% (902 votes)
-Third party ONLY if/when it is clearly viable 14% (623 votes)
-I think we need to avoid third parties at all costs 11% (478 votes)
-The movement needs to take over the Democrats 4% (162 votes)

I know… the poll is kind of silly in a way. But it also helps lead me to some of the next few posts I’ll be publishing. Please understand that these posts are only in place to get us, as a movement, pondering strategy for 2010 and beyond.

Many have said it’s silly to consider taking over the GOP. Many have tried and failed (including me) and many of us know that in the past the effort resulted in wasted time and money.

But that was then, this is now.

Meet the National Precinct Alliance.
Seem silly? Seem like a wast of time?
Think again.

Great News!!!

Nevada just had it’s elections for GOP Leadership. As a PC, It was my duty and great pleasure to drive 5 hours from Las Vegas to Hawthorn Nevada, along with our other delegates, to Represent Clark County. Our approved slate of candidates swept the elections and we now control the entire State. No RINO was left standing. Everyone of them has been moved out of our way. Every change to the State Party bylaws we didn’t approve of was voted down. It was a complete and total VICTORY for the grassroots conservatives in Nevada.

Now keep in mind that our little plan Plan to take over the GOP and our PC program was started by about 30 members about 6 months ago. Who was saying this will take a long time? Who was thinking this would be to ambitious, impossible and that the powers that be would never allow this to happen? We have proven every critic WRONG. This can be done! We did it! You and your County and State can do it too.

First, do your part by becoming active within the Patriotic Resistance. Contact the others in your State Group and tell them about what we have accomplished in Nevada. Join forces with your other local grassroots conservative groups and attend the GOP meetings. Set your sights high! The County GOP is your first target but keep in mind the objective is to take control of the entire State. Hold joint meetings with your coalition of conservative groups and choose your leaders from your own ranks or those that you approve of. It is just that simple.

We banded together with members of the other like minded groups, invaded and took control of the Clark County GOP. We then spread the message to our other members in the State who used Clark County as the model. Here it is by the numbers. Last May, the Clark County “RINO” Central Committee had 300 members and only about 1/2 of them were active. As of yesterday, it is 600 active members strong and the vast majority are are like minded grassroots conservatives who vote. Our movement took the County by surprise and then the State by force of numbers.

To me, it is no longer a question of, “can this work?” It is a question of when the rest of the Patriots in our Country put forth the small amount of effort required to do the same thing.

I checked in to this and I found it to be 100% accurate. This movement in Nevada has indeed caused a significant shift in the party structure across the state. In fact, just last week there was a major shakeup in leadership within the Clark Country GOP of Las Vegas.

It has been confirmed that the following previous officials within the party resigned at an emergency meeting.
-Heather Kydd, secretary
-Martha Kimpel, executive board member District F
-Christine DeCorte, finance director
-Swadeep Nigam, treasurer
-Ron Futrell, communications director
-Richard Scotti, chairman
-Melody Howard, executive board member District C
-Norm Yeager, executive board member District A

Some of these individuals give multiple reasons for stepping down, but a very good source of mine tells me that most of it took place over frustration with movement activists controlling the votes to the point that the old establishment couldn’t continue on its current path.

This is a profound shift in what is happening within the party, and makes it clear that if the movement really, REALLY wanted to put the party back in the hands of true fiscal conservatives… it’s entirely possible to make it happen.

What say you?
-Eric Odom
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2009 05:39 pm
@ican711nm,
Laughing

We'll see how happy you are about this when your group finds out that there are significant challenges in actually running things...

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
  1  
Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2009 05:47 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Laughing
there are significant challenges in actually running things...




The Obama administration is facing these significant challenges like a bunch of inexperienced wannabes...

This republic needs leaders with real world experience and common sense, both of which are seriously lacking in the Obama administration.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 14 Dec, 2009 11:47 pm
From AP:
Quote:
22 million missing Bush White House e-mails found
By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer Pete Yost, Associated Press Writer Mon Dec 14, 9:24 pm ET

WASHINGTON " Computer technicians have found 22 million missing White House e-mails from the administration of President George W. Bush and the Obama administration is searching for dozens more days' worth of potentially lost e-mail from the Bush years, according to two groups that filed suit over the failure by the Bush White House to install an electronic record keeping system.

The two private groups " Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the National Security Archive " said Monday they were settling the lawsuits they filed against the Executive Office of the President in 2007.

It will be years before the public sees any of the recovered e-mails because they will now go through the National Archives' process for releasing presidential and agency records. Presidential records of the Bush administration won't be available until 2014 at the earliest.

Former Bush White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said the 22 million e-mails already had been recovered while Bush was still in office and that misleading statements about the former administration's work demonstrate "a continued anti-Bush agenda, nearly a year after a new president was sworn in."

"The liberal groups CREW and National Security Archive litigate for sport, distort the facts and have consistently tried to create a spooky conspiracy out of standard IT issues," Stanzel said in a statement.

The 22 million e-mails "would never have been found but for our lawsuits and pressure from Capitol Hill," said Anne Weismann, chief counsel for CREW. "It was only then that they did this reanalysis and found as a result that there were 22 million e-mails that they were unable to account for before."

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said the Bush administration had been dismissive of congressional requests that the administration recover the e-mails. Leahy said it was "another example of the Bush administration's reflexive resistance to congressional oversight and the public's right to know."

The tally of missing e-mails, the additional searches and the settlement are the latest development in a political controversy that stemmed from the Bush White House's failure to install a properly working electronic record keeping system. Two federal laws require the White House to preserve its records.

The two private organizations say there is not yet a final count on the extent of missing White House e-mail and there may never be a complete tally.

Meredith Fuchs, general counsel to the National Security Archive, said "many poor choices were made during the Bush administration and there was little concern about the availability of e-mail records despite the fact that they were contending with regular subpoenas for records and had a legal obligation to preserve their records."
ican711nm
 
  2  
Reply Tue 15 Dec, 2009 03:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Before departing, members of Clinton's administration sabotaged the computers in the Whitehouse. Bush's administration had to replace them after Bush's inauguration.

That's a great deal worse than the Bush Administration "losing" millions of its own E-mails.
parados
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Dec, 2009 07:33 pm
@ican711nm,
Funny how you believe stuff that isn't true ican....

But since you want to go down this path.. let me post this in rebuttal..

Quote:
ITEMIZATION OF TAXPAYER PROPERTY DAMAGE:
1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, WASHINGTON D.C.

Location: Briefing Room
Damage: Paper clip on floor

Location: Communications Bullpen
Damage: Dust on tops of door frames

Location: Rose Garden
Damage: Discarded Snickers bar wrapper caught in shrubbery

Location: West Wing (multiple offices)
Damage: Microscopic scratches on tops of desks, "W" keys forcibly removed from keyboards of standard-issue 1996 Compaq Presario computers

Location: Ladies Restroom
Damage: Tampon dispensers empty, three (3) toilets left overflowing and clogged with aborted fetuses

Location: Diplomatic Foyer
Damage: Hand-painted 14" bronze Presidential Seal unlawfully removed (replaced with Alcoholics Anonymous motivational plaque)

Location: Cabinet Room
Damage: Vice President's chair gilded. Also, fifteen (15) copies of "The Complete Mongoloid's Guide to One Term Presidencies" glued to conference table surface.

Location: Printer Pool
Damage: Photomontages depicting simian-themed treason inserted into printer paper trays

Location: Roosevelt Room
Damage: Too many appliances plugged into single outlet, extension cord running under carpet

Location: Oval Office
Damage: Personal-sized cocaine mirror monogrammed "GWB" taped to underside of President's desk. Counterfeit fingerprints of current President placed on same (method unknown). Cocaine currently unaccounted for.

Location: Lincoln Bedroom
Damage: Pubic lice infestation of vintage bed linens. Bedside ATM machine vandalized.

Location: North Lawn
Damage: Area directly beneath Mr. and Mrs. Bush's private residence is strewn with discarded distilled spirits bottles and pretzel bags.

Location: Library
Damage: Wholesale replacement of books with the complete archives of Sports Illustrated magazine

Location: Office #2C (Formerly occupied by First Lady Hillary Clinton)
Damage: Filing cabinet drawers lined with explicit centerfolds from "Liberal Bull Dykes Quarterly"

Location: On every table and flat surface in the White House
Damage: Security has retrieved 1,457 cardboard coasters sporting a photograph of George H. W. Bush (the 41st) and Jennifer Fitzgerald in an athletic, yet solely platonic entanglement with the greeting: "President Bush and his girlfriend welcome you to the White House."

Location: Men's Room
Damage: Soap dispensers left empty, "Glory Hole" anonymous sex conduits drilled through stall walls. (Mr. Rove insists these remain - in testament to the prurience of the previous administration.)

Location: Kitchen
Damage: Someone wrote "Helter Skelter" on the Sub-Zero with bar-b-que sauce

Location: West Wing Coffee Nook
Damage: Someone used a label-maker to affix an out-of-context George W. Bush quotation: "Coffee - the second best upper to come out of Columbia!"

Location: Diplomatic Reception Room
Damage: Waste baskets left unemptied

Location: Intern Lounge
Damage: Large holes in walls, ceiling and floor left during uninstallation of sado-masochistic gymnasium equipment.

Location: Basement Boiler Room
Damage: "BUBBA WUZ HERE" written on floor in several quarts of crusted-over man jelly

http://whitehouse.georgewbush.org/news/2002/061302.asp

But to get back to reality..

It looks like the Bush WH spent almost $200,000 investigating the sabotage that amounted to less than $20,000.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a061202gaovandalscandal

But then here is the complete GAO report..

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf

Quote:
The cost estimates were calculated on the basis of the per-unit cost of the
62 keyboards that the EOP purchased in late January 2001 for $4,650, or $75
per keyboard

$75 per keyboard? I bet they spent $100 per hammer as well. Talk about wasting the tax payers money spending that much for keyboards when you can buy them for $7 a piece
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823107128

But then the keyboards are still cheap compared to the $200,000 it cost to investigate this non issue. Let alone the millions we are spending to keep people alive that still believe the crap put out by the Bush administration. When are you going to stop taking money from the federal government ican?
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parados
 
  1  
Reply Tue 15 Dec, 2009 07:36 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Laughing

We'll see how happy you are about this when your group finds out that there are significant challenges in actually running things...

Cycloptichorn

Running things?

Heck.. they haven't even addressed how difficult it will be for them to even run for office from their extreme position.
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Reply Wed 16 Dec, 2009 06:09 pm
Again!
Quote:
Liberty movement activists take over GOP in Nevada
Posted: 13 Dec 2009 09:02 PM PST
Last Saturday I was invited as a guest on Fox News with Brian Wilson to discuss some of the 2010 efforts within the movement. I cited an event where movement activists had taken over the GOP in Clark County (Las Vegas) Nevada.
...
The following is where the results stand as of the time of this post:
Where do you think the movement should go in 2010?
-The movement needs to take over the GOP 51% (2,228 votes)
-Third party… it’s time for the two parties to be taken down 21% (902 votes)
-Third party ONLY if/when it is clearly viable 14% (623 votes)
-I think we need to avoid third parties at all costs 11% (478 votes)
-The movement needs to take over the Democrats 4% (162 votes)
...
Great News!!!

Nevada just had it’s elections for GOP Leadership. As a PC, It was my duty and great pleasure to drive 5 hours from Las Vegas to Hawthorn Nevada, along with our other delegates, to Represent Clark County. Our approved slate of candidates swept the elections and we now control the entire State. No RINO was left standing. Everyone of them has been moved out of our way. Every change to the State Party bylaws we didn’t approve of was voted down. It was a complete and total VICTORY for the grassroots conservatives in Nevada.

Now keep in mind that our little plan Plan to take over the GOP and our PC program was started by about 30 members about 6 months ago. Who was saying this will take a long time? Who was thinking this would be to ambitious, impossible and that the powers that be would never allow this to happen? We have proven every critic WRONG. This can be done! We did it! You and your County and State can do it too.

First, do your part by becoming active within the Patriotic Resistance. Contact the others in your State Group and tell them about what we have accomplished in Nevada. Join forces with your other local grassroots conservative groups and attend the GOP meetings. Set your sights high! The County GOP is your first target but keep in mind the objective is to take control of the entire State. Hold joint meetings with your coalition of conservative groups and choose your leaders from your own ranks or those that you approve of. It is just that simple.

We banded together with members of the other like minded groups, invaded and took control of the Clark County GOP. We then spread the message to our other members in the State who used Clark County as the model. Here it is by the numbers. Last May, the Clark County “RINO” Central Committee had 300 members and only about 1/2 of them were active. As of yesterday, it is 600 active members strong and the vast majority are are like minded grassroots conservatives who vote. Our movement took the County by surprise and then the State by force of numbers.

To me, it is no longer a question of, “can this work?” It is a question of when the rest of the Patriots in our Country put forth the small amount of effort required to do the same thing.

I checked in to this and I found it to be 100% accurate. This movement in Nevada has indeed caused a significant shift in the party structure across the state. In fact, just last week there was a major shakeup in leadership within the Clark Country GOP of Las Vegas.

It has been confirmed that the following previous officials within the party resigned at an emergency meeting.
-Heather Kydd, secretary
-Martha Kimpel, executive board member District F
-Christine DeCorte, finance director
-Swadeep Nigam, treasurer
-Ron Futrell, communications director
-Richard Scotti, chairman
-Melody Howard, executive board member District C
-Norm Yeager, executive board member District A

Some of these individuals give multiple reasons for stepping down, but a very good source of mine tells me that most of it took place over frustration with movement activists controlling the votes to the point that the old establishment couldn’t continue on its current path.

This is a profound shift in what is happening within the party, and makes it clear that if the movement ... REALLY wanted to put the party back in the hands of true fiscal conservatives… it’s entirely possible to make it happen.
...

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ican711nm
 
  3  
Reply Thu 17 Dec, 2009 04:47 pm
Robert S. Lichter, Professor at Smith College, and Stanlty Rothman, Professor at George Washington University, after an extensive study, in The Radical Personality: Social Psychology Components of New Left Ideology, 1982, wrote:
Most liberals exhibit a narcissistic pathology marked by grandiosity, envy, a lack of empathy, illusions of personal perfection, and a sense of entitlement.
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Reply Fri 18 Dec, 2009 07:52 pm
Quote:

SurveyUSA
Judicial Watch Poll Shows Deep Divide Between Obama and Likely Voters

President Obama may have given himself "a solid B+" grade the other day for his performance during his first year in office, but neither he (nor Congress) scored anywhere near that high with the American people.

Earlier this week, Judicial Watch released the shocking results of a new nationwide survey conducted in partnership with SurveyUSA concerning the American people's attitudes on a variety of subjects, including President Obama's job performance, healthcare, political corruption, transparency, ACORN, illegal immigration, and climate change. (The poll was conducted December 11-14, 2009.)

Check out some of these highlights. (And click here for the complete results, including information by age, race, party, etc.)
• A majority of likely voters (58%) believe decisions by the Obama administration are "Bad for America." (37% say these decisions have been "Good for America.") And most Americans (56%) believe Obama's administration is too secretive.
• A majority of likely voters believe that government is too big (64%) and that bigger government leads to more corruption (62%). The vast majority of likely voters (72%) believe political corruption played a "major role" in the financial crisis. (President Obama recently suggested "fat cat bankers" were the chief cause of the crisis.)
• A majority of likely voters (56%) say the government is operating in a manner "Out Of Line" with the U.S. Constitution. In fact, a majority think shrinking the size of government by 25% would be good for America (and not many think increasing government by 25% would be good for America!)
• Sure enough, most Americans (62%) believe increasing government's role in healthcare will lead to more corruption in the healthcare system.
• A majority of likely voters (59%) disapprove of the way the Obama administration is handling illegal immigration. An even greater majority (69%) disapprove of the way Congress is handling illegal immigration.
• The vast majority (77%) of likely voters are opposed to local governments providing sanctuary to illegal aliens, and a majority (61%) want local law enforcement to be more involved in enforcing immigration laws. Also a majority (59%) oppose local governments using tax dollars to support sites for day laborers who are seeking work.
• Among likely voters, 56% have a negative view of ACORN, only 8% have a favorable opinion, giving ACORN a net favorability rating of minus 48.
• More likely voters believe global warming scientific data is "mostly falsified" (49%) than believe this data to be "mostly genuine" (41%).
On virtually every single issue polled the Obama administration appears to be completely out of step with the majority view of the American people.

President Obama's advisors ought to take note when nearly 6 out 10 voters say that the administration's policies are bad for America! Frankly, these poll results suggest that President Obama and many other politicians ought to rethink their approach to government.

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ican711nm
 
  0  
Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 03:45 pm
Robert S. Lichter, Professor at Smith College, and Stanlty Rothman, Professor at George Washington University, after an extensive study, in The Radical Personality: Social Psychology Components of New Left Ideology, 1982, wrote:
Most liberals exhibit a narcissistic pathology marked by grandiosity, envy, a lack of empathy, illusions of personal perfection, and a sense of entitlement.
djjd62
 
  1  
Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 03:48 pm
@ican711nm,
here's an early christmas gift

to: ican cut and paste
http://www.shift.jp.org/en/archives/2009/03/30/cutandpaste.jpg
from:santa
mysteryman
 
  1  
Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 07:40 pm
Since when did criticizing congresscritters become illegal?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1209/Grayson_wants_to_imprison_critic.html?showall

Quote:
Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), prone for throwing his own political bombs at Republicans, has threatened a local critic with five years in jail for creating the website “mycongressmanisnuts.com,”

The Orlando Sentinel reports that Grayson wrote a letter this week to Attorney General Eric Holder demanding that the federal government imprison Republican activist Angie Langley for five years because of her website criticizing him.


Isnt this the guy that called a woman a "K Street Whore"?

Go to the "news" part of the website and read some of the articles about Grayson.
They are frightening.
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 08:02 pm
@djjd62,
That says, 'biggu sutikku nori'

The last two symbols are hiragana, which is the Japanese syllabary for Japanese words; they are no & ri, which is the Japanese word for glue.

The first eight symbols are katakana which is the Japanese syllabary for foreign/loan words. The two syllabaries have pretty much identical sounds but it's just a different syllabary. Katakana has a couple of extra sounds to replicate sounds that didn't exist in Japanese before these loan words entered the language.

Now you're able2know.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sat 19 Dec, 2009 08:33 pm
@JTT,
JTT, I read it as "sai tsu ku," but my Japanese is very rusty.
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Reply Sun 20 Dec, 2009 01:16 pm
@djjd62,
The Democrat controlled congress in 2008 passed the 2009 federal budget and Bush signed it.

The Democrat controlled congress in 2008 passed the TARP bill and Bush signed it.

The Democrat controlled congress in 2009 passed the Stimulus bill and Obama signed it.

The Democrat controlled congress and Obama in 2009 have not yet rescinded any part of the TARP bill.

The Democrat controlled congress and Obama in 2009 have not yet rescinded any part of the Stimulus bill.

The Democrat controlled congress and Obama in 2009 have not yet rescinded any part of the 2009 federal budget.

Therefore, the Democrat controlled congress and Obama are responsible for the consequences of the TARP bill.

Therefore, the Democrat controlled congress and Obama are responsible for the consequences of the Stimulus bill.

Therefore, the Democrat controlled congress and Obama are responsible for the consequences of the 2009 federal budget.
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ican711nm
 
  1  
Reply Sun 20 Dec, 2009 01:39 pm
Quote:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/12/17/senate-democrats-subvert-the-rules-of-order/
We can only hope the Senate Republicans learned their lesson today.

As so many of us have tried to tell Mitch McConnell for weeks and weeks and weeks, the Senate GOP must throw everything they can at killing the health care bill. Instead, we have seen the Senate Republicans working collaboratively with the Democrats on a series of messaging amendments that no one has paid attention to.

Finally, Senator Tom Coburn decided to fight. Yesterday, Senator Sanders of Vermont introduced a 700+ page amendment and asked for unanimous consent that the reading of the amendment be dispensed with.

Senator Coburn objected.

The Clerk began to read the amendment.

But then something curious happened " something that violates the sacrosanct nature of the Senate’s rules; rules so inviolable that until yesterday neither Democrat nor Republican ever risks crosses the rules in over 200 years.

In short, the Democrats have now crossed the rubicon.

For over 200 years, the Senate’s rules have ensured orderly and very fair debate. The minority has rights that the majority has never and would never trod upon. One of the chief rules of the Senate is that when one Senator has the floor, no other Senator may act.

Tom Coburn had the floor. He made the clerk read the amendment. Somehow, however, Senator Sanders was able to have his amendment yanks mid-reading.

Under Senate rules, that is flat out impossible.

Riddick’s the guide used by the Senate for instruction on how to apply parliamentary procedure is very clear.

Under Rule XV, paragraph 1, and Senate precedents, an amendment shall be read by the Clerk before it is up for consideration or before the same shall be debated unless a request to waive the reading is granted; in practice that includes an ordinary amendment or an amendment in the nature of a substitute, the reading of which may not be dispensed with except by unanimous consent, and if the request is denied the amendment must be read and further interruptions are not in order.

Because the amendment had to “be read,” “further interruptions [were] not in order.” Despite that very clear language and past precedent, the Senate Democrats chose to recognize Senator Sanders and pull the amendment.

Hopefully the Senate Republicans now realize they are dealing with third world kleptocrats, not American legislators. Mitch McConnell’s “messaging” strategy bought the Democrats time to cut a deal and now the Democrats are willing to throw away over 200 years of Senate tradition and order to confiscate 1/6th of the American economy from the private sector.
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