AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Fact of the matter is that most middle class and the poor didn't keep up with inflation since 2000. I believe that's when GWBush took over the white house. During that same period, creation of jobs was the worst since the great depression - even after he promised more jobs after his tax cuts.

These conservative yokels want more tax cuts for the wealthy as our national debt goes higher and higher.

sad part is that most of them are not, and never will be wealthy enough to need those tax cuts themselves. but hey, whatever floats one's boat.

But floating that boat actually worsens their personal situation; I'm sure those losing jobs, homes, and health insurance today are not limited to liberals.

they sure aren't down at the tennessee house. i get along okay with my neighbors and the folks there, but it's total Foxland and there's a lot of unemployed, conservative, super evangelical republicans out of work.

I'll betcha dollars to donuts they're collecting their unemployment insurance too! LOL

the ones that can, do. along with food stamps. why not? that's what they're for. it is funny though, to hear them complain about the government and the dems and all of their social programs as they pay for the groceries with food stamps.

That's exactly what I was getting at; they complain about taxes, but when they're personally in need, they also use the social services provided by our government. They can't seem to understand that taxes are required to pay for those benefits.

So you see nothing wrong with this?
You have no problem with a comittee chairman blocking a subpoena that is issued to the loan company he got 2 loans from?

If that is really true, you appear to be just as corrupt as this congressman is looking.

Why should I have any problems with it? It's beyond my control. I don't try to control anything that's beyond my control. Make sense?

That is an interesting argument. So if a chairman blocks a subpoena that he looks corrupt?

How long were subpoena's blocked for Rove and Meyers by the GOP congressmen? Doesn't that make them look corrupt?

parados, I see the question itself as stupid! Whether we agree or not agree with what our government representatives does is beyond our control once in office.

I have written to Senator Feinstein often, but she has ignored my pleadings 100% of the time. I asked her not to vote for the war with Iraq, but she told me they had information that leaves her with no choice but to approve war. I've written to her on many occasions, and she's always had her reasons why she didn't agree with me.

I've also written to President Obama without getting one response from the white house, although I do get pronouncements that has little to do with my concerns.

2009 INCOME TAX ON THOSE MARRIED FILING JOINTLY (The Bush Income Tax)

Over...........But not over..........The tax is...........Of the amount over
.......$0.........$16,700..............---------- 10%.........................$0
16,700.......... 67,900...............1,670.00 + 15%..................16,700
67,900.........137,050...............9,350.00 + 25%.................67,900
...
372,950........----------...........100,894.50 + 35%...............372,950

Obamacrats plan in 2011 to end the Bush Income Tax rates and revert to the Clinton Income Tax rates.

A married couple filing jointly whose annual joint taxable income this year was $30,000, paid $1,670 + (0.15 x (30,000 - 16,700)) = $1670 + $1,995 = $3,665.

A married couple filing jointly whose annual joint taxable income in 2011 will be $30,000, will pay (0.15 x 30,000) = $4,500.

That will be an income tax increase = $4,500 - $3,665 = $835

Anyone whose annual taxable income is $16,700 to $30,000--and up to the top of the 15% tax bracket--will suffer a tax increase of $835 per year if the Bush tax cuts are not renewed.

To get enough Congressional support by Democrats for the original adoption of this tax cut, the Republicans reluctantly agreed to a 2011 date when this tax cut had to be renewed or reverted to Clinton tax increases. So far the Democrats have refused to renew it.

A tax increase of $835 per year is significant to the middle class, epecially those at the bottom of the middle class.

The Bush tax cuts has done more damage to the national debt, so trying to argue that taxes shouldn't increase is a very dumb idea. Our country already pays one of the lowest taxes (compared to GDP) than most developed countries, and our deficit will end up hurting all Americans.
We've already mortgaged our children and grandchildren's future with this debt, and yokels like ican can't see the damage done to our future economy.

All they know how to parrot is reduce taxes! Dumb and dumber...

No one other that the GOP and Bush planned for them to end in 2011. They wrote and passed the bill. It isn't Obama's fault that they did so. Nor is he required to fix their mistake.


You sound like a serial killer blaming the police for not stopping him from killing ican.

It raises questions after that same chairman has received 2 loans from the company getting subpoenaed.



I dont know, and yes it does.

I look at it more like politics as usual. The minority tries to embarrass the majority and makes a big deal out of not being able to waste the committee's time.

So then you do believe that it was ok for the GOP congressman to block the supboenas aimed at Rove and Cheney and others in the Bush WH?

mm, What we believe has nothing to do with anything that the government does or doesn't. When will that register in your tiny brain?

The Bush tax cuts have not done any significant damage to the national debt. It has been Bush and obamacrat expenditures that have done significant damage to the national debt. The worst damage to the national debt has been done by the obamacrats--both the obamacrats who ran Congress in 2007 and 2008, and the ones now running Congress and the United States in 2009.

Arguing that taxes should not increase is an excellent idea. The best way to reduce the damage done by both Bush and obamacrat spending is to reduce--not increase--expenditures. Our deficit will end up hurting all Americans. We've already mortgaged our children and grandchildren's future with this debt, and obamacrat yokels can't see they are the real cause of the expanding damage to our future economy.

All the obamacrats know is how to parrot Bush did it! Dumb and dumber... Stupid and stupider ... Nutier and nutier ... Crazy and crazier! The obamacrats are incapable of dealing with the reality of the inevitable consequences of current obamacrat excess spending. They criticize Bush for their doing far worse than what Bush did! They say they have to increase spending to reduce Bush's increased spending damage. ... They all need counseling by competent psychiatrists!

To save the USA's economy, expenditures must be reduced and the Bush tax cuts must be made permanent.

well, the barking heads feed them nothing but a steady diet of frothing outrage that "their" money is going to "adc families", "third and fourth generation welfare mothers", "illegals", "lazy asses", "drug addicts". bla-bla-bla.

when you have people getting a constant barrage of that kind of crap, it gets them so worked up that they forget that sometimes bad things happen to good people too.