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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:02 pm
Friday, July 10, 2009

Sarah Palin Quotes, Misrepresents Walter Cronkite

http://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/cronkitepalin-450x220.jpg

Here is the actual quote:

"I think that being liberal, in the true sense, is being nondoctrinaire, nondogmatic, noncomitted to a cause"but examining each case on its merits. Being left of center is another thing; it's a political position. I think most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not liberal, by my definition of it, then they can hardly be good newspapermen."

ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:10 pm
Sarah Palin has one very practical reason for resigning her governorship of Alaska. She is more than $500,000 in debt due to the accumulated costs of defending herself against multiple false SD (i.e, Statist Democrat) accusations of illegal actions. To reduce the cost of having to defend herself against additional false SD accusations and obtain donations for reducing her debt, she resigned.

Sarah Palin is favored by a large majority of Republican voters despite the opposition of many Republican leaders. Despite her current limitatations, Sarah Palin would be a far better president of the USA than was Bush and is Obama. For one thing, she understands the Constitution and will support it better than those two. I hope she decides to campaign to help Republicans regain majorites in Congress and will run for president in 2012.

Quote:

http://swacgirl.blogspot.com/2009/07/rasmussen-76-of-gop-voters-still-favor.html
Rasmussen: 76% of GOP voters still favor Sarah Palin
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:15 pm
@Debra Law,
Sarah Palin doesn't even know media history; Walter Cronkite was the most respected anchor for the longest time in tv history. Palin's attempt to denigrate Cronkite is like the devil trying to denigrate Mickey Mouse.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:26 pm
@Debra Law,
Alleged actual quote of Sarah Palin quoting W. Cronkite:
"Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen" W. Cronkite

Alleged actual quote of W. Cronkite:
"I think most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not liberal, by my definition of it, then they can hardly be good newspapermen."

Debra, the difference between these two quotes is too minor to be worth anyone's time disputing Palin's quote of Cronkite.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:30 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
for one thing, she understands the Constitution and will support it better than those two.


Shocked Very Happy

I wonder if you could provide a single piece of evidence, showing that Palin 'understands the Constitution.' I doubt it.

Cycloptichorn
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:35 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Sarah Palin has one very practical reason for resigning her governorship of Alaska. She is more than $500,000 in debt due to the accumulated costs of defending herself against multiple false SD (i.e, Statist Democrat) accusations of illegal actions. To reduce the cost of having to defend herself against additional false SD accusations and obtain donations for reducing her debt, she resigned.

Sarah Palin is favored by a large majority of Republican voters despite the opposition of many Republican leaders. Despite her current limitatations, Sarah Palin would be a far better president of the USA than was Bush and is Obama. For one thing, she understands the Constitution and will support it better than those two. I hope she decides to campaign to help Republicans regain majorites in Congress and will run for president in 2012.

Quote:

http://swacgirl.blogspot.com/2009/07/rasmussen-76-of-gop-voters-still-favor.html
Rasmussen: 76% of GOP voters still favor Sarah Palin



As the state's chief executive office, she cannot ethically or legally set aside her official duties in order to make time to write a book. She quit in order to capitalize on her current "celebrity" and to scoop up a multi-million dollar book deal. If she did not strike while the iron was hot, so to speak, and completed her term as governor instead, the opportunities might not be there. She quit her elected office for personal gain. It is her lifetime ambition to be a paid celebrity; she is a myopically self-centered and has no real interest in serving the people.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:47 pm
@Debra Law,
That's been proven on the campaign trail; she talked more about herself than the important issues of the day. It was mostly "me, me, me, me, me, me, and my family." When asked simple questions, she didn't directly respond, and when she did, she didn't have the right answer - or a good answer.

That's the same treatment I get from MACs and conservatives on a2k; mostly diversionary tactics used by children, and never directly answering a direct question.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:48 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Alleged actual quote of Sarah Palin quoting W. Cronkite:
"Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen" W. Cronkite

Alleged actual quote of W. Cronkite:
"I think most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not liberal, by my definition of it, then they can hardly be good newspapermen."

Debra, the difference between these two quotes is too minor to be worth anyone's time disputing Palin's quote of Cronkite.



When context matters, it is a misrepresentation to omit the context. By omitting Cronkite's words that immediately preceded the quoted sentence and wherein Cronkite provided his definition of the word liberal, Palin was engaged in misrepresentation.


cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:50 pm
@Debra Law,
These are the same games they always play; they can't seem to be honest even in their cut and paste.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:02 pm
@Debra Law,
Debra Law wrote:
She quit her elected office for personal gain. It is her lifetime ambition to be a paid celebrity; she is a myopically self-centered and has no real interest in serving the people.


Hmmmmm .... I didn't know about this book deal, but it opens a whole new perspective on something:

Among other things, in the announcement of her resignation, Sarah Palin wrote:
I cannot stand here as your governor and allow the millions of dollars and all that time go to waste just so I can hold the title of governor." (emphasis added -- T.)

source

In the speech, she referred to the money and the time invested in the ethics investigations against her. But maybe she did have other money on her mind that she couldn't let go to waste.

Also note: "title of governor", not "office of governor". Titles are for status, whereas public office is for working in to promote the general welfare. Palin refers to "governor" as a title. This distinction nicely fits your characterization of her.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:05 pm
@Thomas,
From the LA Times:
Quote:
Top of the Ticket


Sarah Palin's book deal a done deal with HarperCollins
Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:21 pm
@Thomas,
Yep. She needs to get those millions while the getting is good. Queen Palin enjoyed being mayor of Wasilla and governor so long as she could wave her royal scepter and get her way. That isn't happening so much anymore because too many people are standing up to her and challenging her authority. That takes the fun out of being the ruler and it plays into her "everyone hates me 'cause I'm beautiful" complex. Poor "conservative" Sarah! She's the downtrodden victim of that darn "liberal" elite media. But God opened a book deal door just a little crack for her, and she's gonna plow through that door, you betcha!
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

From the LA Times:
Quote:
Top of the Ticket


Sarah Palin's book deal a done deal with HarperCollins



ALSO (LOL) from Newsweek:

Palin's Book Deal

Quote:
Governor Sarah Palin is the latest politician to mint a sweet book deal. She's signed a deal with Harper Collins who will co-release the book with its subsidiary, Christian publishing house Zondervan (the company that published Rick Warren's mega-seller "The Purpose-Driven Life"). Reporters have been chattering about the inevitability of a Palin book for months. The deal was negotiated by DC lawyer Robert Barnett, whose literary client list includes Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. The financial arrangements haven't been disclosed, but your Gaggler is thinking big bucks. (And probably more than Bush scored.)

Debra Law
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:28 pm
I'm not going to buy her book. I wonder if Foxy and Ican and Okie might throw a little financial support her way by purchasing one.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:39 pm
@Debra Law,
They'll probably buy several, and give it to their family members.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:45 pm


Deficits, Taxes and Time Appear to Doom Health Care Reforms

President Obama's budget chief says health care reform legislation won't be $240 billion in the
hole in the next decade if the House includes reductions in Medicare payments to physicians.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Our socialist public library may well get a copy -- my town is fairly conservative. If I should feel masochistic in a year or so, I might borrow it.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 01:50 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
cicerone imposter wrote:
I wonder if you could provide a single piece of evidence, showing that Palin 'understands the Constitution.

I wonder if you could provide a single piece of evidence, showing that Palin DOES NOT'understands the Constitution.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 02:04 pm
@Debra Law,
How does excluding this sentence change the meaning of Cronkite's statement?

"I think that being liberal, in the true sense, is being nondoctrinaire, nondogmatic, noncomitted to a cause"but examining each case on its merits."

"Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen" W. Cronkite

or, Palin's version,
"Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen" W. Cronkite.

Of course, Cronkite was not talking about Modern Ameican Liberals (i.e., Statists) who are most certainly doctrinaire, dogmatic, comitted to a cause"only examining each case on the merits of its degree of support for the Statist agenda.

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 02:07 pm
@ican711nm,
Already have; not my problem you don't understand the English language, know how to read, or comprehend what you read.
 

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