@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:
Quote:I don't think that we lived under a dictatorship with Bush, but if we are going to make comparisons, the Bush years are far closer and more relevant to even make a comparisson.
You wandered off, but I'll reply anyways.
mysteryman wrote:
I would disagree.
Lets look at what FDR did.
Why are we talking about FDR? I'm talking about Obama vice Bush.
mysteryman wrote:
He rounded up everybody that he thought MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT, have been a threat, only because of the color of their skin.
Actually nationality. Chinese, Koreans and other east Asians were not gathered up.
mysteryman wrote:
He put them into glorified prison camps with no evidence of any wrongdoing on their parts.
Correct. I am VERY familiar. My Grandparents were in those camps.
mysteryman wrote:
He did not give them trials, he confiscated all of their property, and he denied them any of the rights afforded American citizens (which most of them were).
Correct.
mysteryman wrote:
Why didnt he do that to the German or Italian residents of the east coast?
As I understand this is incorrect. There were German and Italian detainees, but they weren't put in camps similar to the Japanese. It's a topic I have wanted to research more, but haven't found the time.
mysteryman wrote:
Would you say that those were the actions of a man closer to a dictator then Bush?
In terms of power, certainly.
mysteryman wrote:
Or Lincoln, lets look at some of his actions.
Why are we talking about Lincoln? I'm talking about Obama vice Bush.
mysteryman wrote:
He suspended habeus corpus laws, he shut down newspapers, he ordered federal troops into NYC to stop local protests, and he did all of that under the pretext of fighting the civil war.
Correct.
mysteryman wrote:
So for you to say that Bush was the closest we have ever come to a dictatorship is laughable.
Ah but MM, I did NOT say this. I didn't say bush was the closest. I said that he would be a better comparison than Obama.
I said specifically, I didn't think that he was a dictator, but his actions are actually comparable to military dictatorships where as conspiracy theories about what Obama may/could do are not comparable.
I never said Bush was the closest to a dictator we've had.
In terms of power: FDR
In terms of influence: Lincoln
In terms of popularity: Reagan
In terms of zeal: Nixon
I'd go as far as to say Bush is pretty far from a dictator. I never saw him as an evil man, just an incompetent one (for the POTUS).
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