AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

wandeljw wrote:

There is no hysteria among the general public about Obama being a god. Only the extreme right blogosphere is raising a fuss over such minor incidents.

I'm sorry but the evidence strongly suggests otherwise.

'TOLD YA SO'
Mon Jun 08 2009 10:29:02 ET

Sarah Palin hits FOXNEWS tonight for the big 'Told Ya So' interview, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

As President Obama vows to spend the 'stimulus' faster, Governor Palin tells host Sean Hannity: 'You gotta quit digging that hole!'

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HANNITY: What do you make of " look at the state of the economy now...

PALIN: Well, when you consider that the federal government is about eleven trillion dollars in debt, and we’re borrowing more to spend more.. it defies any sensible economic policy that any of us ever learned through college. It defies economy practices and principles that tell ya ‘you gotta quit digging that hole when you are in that financial hole’

Palin continues:

"America is digging a deeper hole and how are we paying for this government largesse. We’re borrowing. We’re borrowing from China and we consider that now we own sixty percent of GENERAL MOTORS " or the U.S. government does… But who is the U.S. government becoming more indebted to? It’s China. So that leads you to have to ask who is really going to own our car industry than in America."

HANNITY: You know but it goes back - It does go back a little to the campaign. I mean, ‘spread the wealth, patriotic duty…’

PALIN: Kind of a ‘we told ya so’.

HANNITY: Well, is that how you feel?

PALIN: That’s how I feel! I feel like… and I think that more and more constituents are going to open their eyes now and open their ears to hear what is really going on and realize ok… Maybe we didn’t have a good way of expressing that, or articulating that message of ‘here is what America could potentially become if we grow government to such a degree that we cannot pay for it and we have to borrow money from other countries, some countries that don’t necessarily like America.

And this many months into the new administration, quite disappointed, quite frustrated with not seeing those actions to rein in spending, slow down the growth of government. Instead Sean it is the complete opposite. It’s expanding at such a large degree that if Americans aren’t paying attention, unfortunately our country could evolve into something that we do not even recognize.

HANNITY: Socialism?

PALIN: Well, that is where we are headed. That is where we have to be blunt enough and candid enough and honest enough with Americans to let them know that if we keep going down these roads… nationalizing many of our services, our projects, our businesses, yes that is where we would head. And that is why Americans have to be paying attention. And we have to have our voices heard. And ultimately it need to be our will, the American people’s will imposed on Washington, instead of the other way around.

The interview is set to air tonight on FOXNEWS, 9 PM ET.

The general public has totally ignored those two stories.

wandeljw wrote:

The general public has totally ignored those two stories.

Thats because they are not engaged, very poorly informed, and the mainstream media that is in the tank for Obama is an absolute and utter failure to provide pertinent and accurate news.

But we can't get around the Obama charisma or the Obama mystique that automatically assigns to us the weakest hand in the court of public opinion. So when you hold the weakest hand, the only way to win is via tactical strategy and that doesn't include a full frontal charge, bugles blowing, and flags flying.

Our only hope is to expose the truth and hope there are still enough people with the brains to recognize it.

Even as the U.S. President and Congress are doing their damndest to push us further and further left, it appears the reverse is happening in Europe. We should probably exercise some caution in how to interpret this as the definition of 'liberal' and 'conservative' over there is frequently different than it is over here:

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Conservatives racing ahead in EU parliament voting
Associated Press Writers
Constant Brand And Robert Wielaard
Sun Jun 7, 7:01 pm ET

BRUSSELS " Conservatives raced toward victory in some of Europe's largest economies Sunday as initial results and exit polls showed voters punishing left-leaning parties in European parliament elections in France, Germany and elsewhere.

Some right-leaning parties said the results vindicated their reluctance to spend more on company bailouts and fiscal stimulus amid the global economic crisis.

'I told ya so' is not a plan.

Whoever was to be in charge this go around would be doing things the same way(Bush was already going down this road too) because no set of politicians can stomach job losses knowing they will be highly publicized.

On the other hand they will make bad laws/tax laws/trade laws under the radar that will cause jobs to trickle to other countries.

Our gov't does things just like Wall Street did....it's all about other peoples money....but it becomes all of us that have to pay.

We've done more than we can pay for but there isn't a Chapter 11 for countries...outside of that I don't think there's anyone we could elect that can reverse what is in motion. Destination, implode.

Modern American Conservatism aka Classical liberalism
(borrowed from Wiki)

Classical liberalism (also known as traditional liberalism[1], laissez-faire liberalism[2], and market liberalism[3] or, outside the United States and Britain, sometimes simply liberalism is a doctrine stressing individual freedom, free markets, and limited government. This includes the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, individual freedom from restraint, equality under the law, constitutional limitation of government, free markets, and a gold standard to place fiscal constraints on government as exemplified in the writings of John Locke, Adam Smith, David Hume, David Ricardo, Voltaire, Montesquieu and others.

As such, it is the fusion of economic liberalism with political liberalism of the late 18th and 19th centuries. The "normative core" of classical liberalism is the idea that laissez-faire economics will bring about a spontaneous order or invisible hand that benefits the society, though it does not necessarily oppose the state's provision of some basic public goods with what constitutes public goods being seen as very limited. The qualification classical was applied retroactively to distinguish it from more recent, 20th-century conceptions of liberalism and its related movements, such as social liberalism Classical liberals are suspicious of all but the most minimal government and object to the welfare state.

wandeljw wrote:

The general public has totally ignored those two stories.

Thats because they are not engaged, very poorly informed, and the mainstream media that is in the tank for Obama is an absolute and utter failure to provide pertinent and accurate news.

LIMBAUGH: There you have it. Government-run Newsweek Evan Thomas: "He's a god." Obama is a god. Reagan was parochial. Reagan, he only cared about America, but Obama is above that now. He's not chauvinistic. We're not just provincial. Ronald Reagan was not provincial. Ronald Reagan understood American exceptionalism. Ronald Reagan understood America's greatness. Ronald Reagan understood America's role in the world for good.

Mr. Thomas, Barack Obama sees America's role in the world as not good. It is offensive to the sensibilities of millions of people to hear a member of the state-run media refer to a half-black, half-white human being with no experience running anything of substance referred to as a god. He may be president of the United States, but he's not a god.

The general public could not care less about what Evan Thomas said on MSNBC. Only conservative commentators are debating Thomas' remarks.

Limbaugh came down from the mountain and saw Evan Thomas dancing and worshipping Obama. This enraged Limbaugh and he broke the tablets (oxycontin tablets).

We have millions who don't care who he is or what he says or what he does or what he stands for who have proclaimed him the messiah and savior and who grovel and worship at his feet with orgasmic devotion.

There is no hysteria among the general public about Obama being a god.

I'm sorry but the evidence strongly suggests otherwise.

It's the so-called "Michael J. Fox incident".

I don't say that it is okay or that's not okay.

If someone is "clean" from whatever addiction, she/he won't bother.
Doubts are part of the "business".