AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

@DontTreadOnMe,

DOnt Tread on Me says that if Acorn is convicted of trying to rig the election, I'll be happy to condemn them.

Condemn away---Advocate--

ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud - Politics News Story - KMBC Kansas City.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Four people have been indicted on charges of voter fraud in Kansas City, officials said Wednesday.

Investigators said questionable registration forms for new voters were collected by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a group that works to improve minority and low-income communities.

The four indicted -- Kwaim A. Stenson, Dale D. Franklin, Stephanie L. Davis and Brian Gardner -- were employed by ACORN as registration recruiters. They were each charged with two counts.

Federal indictments allege the four turned in false voter registration applications. Prosecutors said the indictments are part of a national investigation.

ACORN and Project Vote recruit and assign workers to low-income and minority neighborhoods to register people to vote.

The Kansas City Election Board told KMBC they found suspicious forms, such as seven applications from one person and an application for a dead man.

"There is some motive behind it -- this is not accidental," said Ray James with the Kansas City Election Board.

Election officials said some of the application cards had false addresses, signatures and phone numbers.

ACORN officials in Kansas City said they turned in the four people who were indicted.

"We're very happy that they were indicted," said Claudie Harris with ACORN.

Harris said ACORN workers are paid by the hour and not by the number of voter registration cards they turn in.

"When you fraudulently defraud this, that gives us a bad name and what we're trying to do a bad name," Harris said.

ACORN officials said the four indicted have been fired.

Harris said ACORN workers check every voter registration card before sending it to the Election Board.

Last month, ACORN claimed to have processed more than 35,000 voter registration applications in Kansas City since the summer.

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Joe From Chicago wrote:

Re: Foxfyre (Post 3647383)
Foxfyre wrote:
And meanwhile some of us who condemned President Bush and an irresponsible GOP Congress for their spendthrift ways...
What a larf.

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larf? larf?

I am really worried about Joe. The economy combined with the takeover of almost all legal business in Chicago by BO's friends( Jesse Jackson. Jr.; Emil Jones; Bobby Rush) has frozen out people like Joe from Chicago. Rumor has it that he has been reduced to following some of Obama's people and waiting to pick up their unfinished cigars just outside of the courts at 26th and California.

Poor Joe's mind must be affected by those "cigars".

larf? larf?

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@genoves,

genoves wrote:

DOnt Tread on Me says that if Acorn is convicted of trying to rig the election, I'll be happy to condemn them.

yes. though it's not likely to happen.

because the indictment is not for rigging the election, but for registration fraud, not rigging the election.

and if people do registration fraud they should be punished. right? so, then;

people like Marc Jacoby should be punished. people like Nathan Sproul should be punished. Voter's Outreach of America should be punished.

and gosh, while we're at it it, would you care to get into the efforts of The Mighty Texas Strikeforce on elections? maybe ohio?

maybe you'd like to discuss how rnc operatives set up calls to tell people that because of huge voter turn out, republicans and democrats would vote on different days. and that the correct date was given to registered republicans while the the following day was given to registered democrats.

nawww, you probably don't want to get into that stuff do you?

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Dont tread on me wrote-

yes. though it's not likely to happen.

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Says who?

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@genoves,

genoves wrote:

Last month, ACORN claimed to have processed more than 35,000 voter registration applications in Kansas City since the summer.

yeah, back in 2006.

and this;

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The four indicted -- Kwaim A. Stenson, Dale D. Franklin, Stephanie L. Davis and Brian Gardner -- were employed by ACORN as registration recruiters. They were each charged with two counts.

also from 2006

there's more dishonesty from you, but i don't think i'll waste anymore time on you.

you suck.

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Dont tread on me wrote:

people like Marc Jacoby should be punished. people like Nathan Sproul should be punished. Voter's Outreach of America should be punished.

and gosh, while we're at it it, would you care to get into the efforts of The Mighty Texas Strikeforce on elections? maybe ohio?

maybe you'd like to discuss how rnc operatives set up calls to tell people that because of huge voter turn out, republicans and democrats would vote on different days. and that the correct date was given to registered republicans while the the following day was given to registered democrats.

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I am sorry but I did not read that anyone in the groups above were indicted or convicted as the ACORN inner city gang bangers were. Do youhave a list of indictments and or convictions? If not, don't waste your time. I am only interested in tracking down indictments and or convictions. Rants by left wing quasi communists like those on Move On.Org are not at all persuasive since they represent people who are traitors to America.

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ACORN gang bangers WERE found guilty. The statute of limitations goes back at least five years.

The four indicted -- Kwaim A. Stenson, Dale D. Franklin, Stephanie L. Davis and Brian Gardner -- were employed by ACORN as registration recruiters. They were each charged with two counts.

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@ican711nm,

It is a pity you didn't show job growth, which was much higher during the Dem administrations.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

I'm only surprised because he didn't go back to previous elections - like Clinton and Bush Sr. LOL They try to make hay with past history that only conservatives love to repeat, but they don't say too much about Bush Jr. who lied so often, he didn't grow his nose - longer than Pinocchio's.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/05/10/acorn-workers-quit-over-corruption-nobody-cared-glenn-beck/

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@okie,

Yes, more and more of those associated with ACORN are beginning to come forward. There's no chance that the present Congress or President Obama will do any kind of investigation of ACORN, however, as they won't risk the millions of votes and campaign contributions that ACORN delivers to them.

Referring again to this previous post of mine:
http://able2know.org/topic/113196-433#post-3647369

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But kudos to the Donald. He at least is displaying intellectual integrity:

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Donald Trump on Miss California: Same as Barack Obama
By ALEXANDER BURNS
May 12, 2009

President Barack Obama ended up in the middle of an unlikely controversy this morning " the debate over Miss California’s position on gay marriage.

At a press conference addressing Carrie Prejean’s disputed title in the Miss USA competition, pageant owner Donald Trump compared Prejean’s stated views on gay marriage to Obama’s.

“It's the same answer that the president of the United States gave,” Trump said. “She gave an honorable answer. She gave an answer from her heart.”

In her own remarks moments later, Prejean echoed Trump’s statement, telling reporters: “The president of the United States, the secretary of state, and many Americans agree with me in this belief.”

In the final round of the Miss USA pageant, Prejean told judge Perez Hilton: “I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22413.html
dodge

Since Hillary wasn't mentioned before on this subject:

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Clinton opposes gay marriage but supports civil unions between members of the same sex. During her husband's administration, she supported the Defense of Marriage Act, a law preventing the federal recognition of same-sex marriage. http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianactivism/p/HillaryClinton.htm

But Miss California isn't a Democrat and therefore was fair game for some of the most ruthless and savage demonization by the thought police on the Left whol are still ignoring the exact same sentiments publicly voiced by their heroes.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/05/10/acorn-workers-quit-over-corruption-nobody-cared-glenn-beck/

you didn't need to post this, okie. i saw it on beck on friday.

you guys are beating me, and others, over the head with this stuff. like it's a big score.

but, i have already said that if acorn, or even foghorn leghorn, are convicted of breaking the law, i'm all for punishing them.

but, the funny thing is, you have never posted anything about any of the republican Voter Registration orgs that have run afoul.

even in your own clip, your evidence, reid says that acorn endorsed John McCain as the republican nominee / candidate.

i mentioned earlier a few republican orgs that had similar problems, and some resulted in actual arrests and jail time.

your pal genoves (or whoever) said he "didn't care" about them.

so, what do you think about the republican groups and individuals that have had similar allegations and/ or arrests, okie?

shouldn't they be discussed as well, since we are all so worried about having honest elections in america?

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@DontTreadOnMe,

I'm all for exposing ALL organizations who are committing voter fraud on any level or in any capacity. I am especially interested in those receiving Federal funding and those violating their 501(c)3 status or those with 501(c)4 status who are receiving Federal funds directly or indirectly. And I don't care what party they are affiliated with. Why don't you post what you have regarding these additional groups you mentioned DTOM?

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

But Miss California isn't a Democrat and therefore was fair game

1) perez hilton is an imbecilic opportunist. i don't know anyone who takes his ridiculous ass seriously.

2) the reason that most people that i know got down on little miss whatshername, wasn't because she "isn't a democrat", but because walking around in a bikini in 5 inch heels, flashing a new set of boobs, and doing nude photography just doesn't seem to go with the particular brand of moral standards that she was trying to claim.

3) the trump meister seems to be establishing a pattern of beauty contest winners who say one thing, do another, cry discrimination when they get busted on it; and then trump swoops in to save the dy.

4) are you so sure that you aren't being used in a promotional scheme?

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

I'm all for exposing ALL organizations who are committing voter fraud on any level or in any capacity. I am especially interested in those receiving Federal funding and those violating their 501(c)3 status or those with 501(c)4 status who are receiving Federal funds directly or indirectly. And I don't care what party they are affiliated with. Why don't you post what you have regarding these additional groups you mentioned DTOM?

good.

i listed a few a couple of posts back. but here, you can start with Mark Jacoby and YPM.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

No I don't think I am being used. I think I am maybe more conscious of most of the pervasive and insidious form of mind and thought control that is being perpetuated by a segment of society. It is a highly selective enforcement of particular PC stances for which violation results in public demonization, demands for material consequences, and banning from the public sector.

Miss California is certainly no more 'immoral' or out of the mainstream than many or all of the other contestants. All she is guilty of, any more than anybody else, is giving an honest but un-PC answer to a question that never should have been asked in the first place. But the relentless assault on her and her character, the obvious witchhunt looking for any dirt they can be found on her, and the material consequences that some are attempting to inflict on her is way over the top and should be acceptable to nobody with any sense of justice or fair play. It is done way too often to anybody who dares to offend the thought police these days.

Also, the fact that she was was the only one of the contestants required to deal with such a hot button issue also smells to high heaven.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

Also, the fact that she was was the only one of the contestants required to deal with such a hot button issue also smells to high heaven.

well, like i said before;

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

But Miss California isn't a Democrat and therefore was fair game

1) perez hilton is an imbecilic opportunist. i don't know anyone who takes his ridiculous ass seriously.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

I'm all for exposing ALL organizations who are committing voter fraud on any level or in any capacity. I am especially interested in those receiving Federal funding and those violating their 501(c)3 status or those with 501(c)4 status who are receiving Federal funds directly or indirectly. And I don't care what party they are affiliated with. Why don't you post what you have regarding these additional groups you mentioned DTOM?

good.

i listed a few a couple of posts back. but here, you can start with Mark Jacoby and YPM.

Oh yeah Jacoby. As he has yet to be convicted of anything, it's too early to know about that.

If he is guilty, I hope they throw the book at him.

But the media reporting has been all over the map on that. The leftwing attack articles say that thousands of people have reported trickery. Somewhat more objective sources like Reuters say that a few dozen reported trickery. But so far nobody has been named who reported 'trickery' so there's no way to know what the sources are.

But here's the other side of the story from a rightwing biased source. We'll have to see how it all shakes out:

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Voter fraud arrest leaves Republicans seething
GOP says trumped-up count designed to distract from ACORN
By Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

The arrest of a GOP voter registration recruiter on the eve of California's registration deadline has outraged the state's Republicans, who now say California's secretary of state, a Democrat, timed the arrest to distract the public from ACORN's voter fraud scandals.

Mark Jacoby, 25, was arrested this weekend for allegedly falsifying his own voter registration by fraudulently claiming his parents' Los Angeles County address so he could legally gather voter signatures in California.

Secretary of State Debra Bowen's office alleges Jacoby did not live at the address, thereby perjuring himself and committing a felony for falsely claiming voter eligibility. If convicted, Jacoby faces up to 3 years in prison.

Hector Barajas, communications director for the California Republican Party, however, told WND that the charges are bogus, claiming that while Jacoby travels the nation working on voter registrations, his childhood home is still his home.

"He still has his car payment that comes into his parents address, he still has his bills that come into his parents address and he files his taxes here in the state of California," Barajas said. "It begs the question … where else is an individual supposed to register to vote?"

Further, California Republicans are charging that the arrest of a GOP voting registration worker is a deliberate attempt to distract the public from the abuses of the more Democrat-friendly Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN.

California Republicans released a statement that reads, "It's clear that Bowen, herself the recipient of an ACORN endorsement (still displayed on her campaign website), has elevated these issues to achieve maximum political benefit and deflect attention from the Democratic Presidential nominee's high-profiled problems and associations with the radical community activist group ACORN.

"While we condemn voter fraud in all forms, it is evident that Debra Bowen is using her office to play politics with the public's perception of political parties. This is inappropriate at least, and an abuse of her office and a willing suspension of her duties at worst," the statement says.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=78627

There is no indication that this is anything other than a small private marketing firm, however, not a lobbying group, and not receiving public funding. They're not accused of being advocates for or an extension of the Republican Party. I have not been able to find that there have been any convictions or any other formal charges filed against anybody associated with this organization. So, again we'll see.

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Young Political Majors
The Young Political Majors LLC is a small private consulting firm which has registered about 70,000 Republican party voters in 2008. Also known as YPM, the firm has been hired in several states as part of the GOP get-out-the-vote effort; YPM is paid between $7-12 per registration.1

Reports in several states have surfaced alleging that YPM duped voters into changing their registrations. In investigating these claims, the Los Angeles Times randomly interviewed 46 of the hundreds of voters who records show were recently re-registered as Republicans. Over 80% of them said they had been misled into making the change.1

Who else do you have?

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