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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 12:57 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

parados wrote:

As for that state dinner though, here ya go referring to a state dinner June 15, 2008:
... ... ...


Just to remind you: that was in LONDON, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, when President Bus was invited by HM The Queen .... and later a guest in Downing Street.

(My response above is referring to PM Browen's visit in WASHINGTON.)


You didn't specify that when you said that President Bush treated YOU worse. You are not answering the question of how he did that. Do you consider the UK to be YOU?

I do not find ANY complaints of how Gordon Brown was treated by President Bush in the USA or any suggestion by even the most leftwing media that it was in any way inappropriate.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 12:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:
He did schedule a formal joint press conference, something that Barack Obama did not do--Obama only had a few reporters in when the Brits officially protested the lack of of a press conference.


No.


Walter, I linked my source for this. Dispute it with anything you can, but until you do I have to believe you don't know what you're talking about.
Debra Law
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

So you want miracles? Obama has been in office for less than two months, and Bush had eight years to destroy our economy and country. What a dork!

If you want miracles, go to your church and pray.


I agree. It took the Bush Administration 8 years to destroy our country, and the Obama Administration is expected to have God-like powers and have all of our national and global problems cleaned up overnight. Our current president wasn't even sworn into office before the Republicans started blaming him for the lack of an immediate and miraculous recovery.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Well, the British press reported broadly how "snubbed" (NB: not 'insulted') Brown because US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson had refused to meet the PM.


If it was broadly reported, you should be able to post a link or two.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:03 pm
@Foxfyre,
Because the left wing press realized that failing to have a state dinner is NOT an insult. Something you and RW bloggers don't seem to understand.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:04 pm
@Foxfyre,
There is NO LINK when you made that statement Fox.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:06 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Well, the British press reported broadly how "snubbed" (NB: not 'insulted') Brown because US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson had refused to meet the PM.


If it was broadly reported, you should be able to post a link or two.


Do you pay the costs for getting the archived papers?

Your wish isn't my command.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:07 pm
@Foxfyre,
Press conference canceled because of SNOW.

Quote:
British officials, denying any deliberate snub, said that a slightly more formal event planned in the Rose Garden after the meeting had been cancelled because the grounds of the White House are blanketed in snow.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:08 pm
@Foxfyre,
My GOD Fox.. You just make up stuff and then pretend you posted a link for it while demanding Walter provide a link for his statement.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Here is the link for your claim Walter.

Paulson rejected Brown meeting

Quote:
Hank Paulson, the US Treasury Secretary, is understood to have rejected a request for a meeting with Gordon Brown, delivering a snub to the Prime Minister during his visit to America.


I am looking forward to your link Fox.. Still waiting for it, even though I posted a very clear refutation of your claim.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
But here is an (though online, I'll look for the print edition later), from the most conservative of all British papers, theDaily Telegraph
Quote:
US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson rejected Gordon Brown meeting

Hank Paulson, the US Treasury Secretary, is understood to have rejected a request for a meeting with Gordon Brown, delivering a snub to the Prime Minister during his visit to America.

... ... ...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:11 pm
@parados,
Her name isn't Foxie for nut'n. LOL
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:13 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Paulson "too busy" to see Brown, the conservative (online) business magazine 'This is Money':
Quote:
Gordon Brown suffered a setback last night after the US Treasury Secretary refused to meet him on his trip to America.
... ... ...

George Osborne, the Tory Shadow Chancellor, said: 'I cannot believe that ... ... ...

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:14 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Well, the British press reported broadly how "snubbed" (NB: not 'insulted') Brown because US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson had refused to meet the PM.


Does this mean that you can't cite any instances where President Bush insulted your German leaders? Are you going to retract the statement?


Are you serious?

http://www.lipsticktracez.com/sabina/2008/06/11/bush_merkel_backrub.jpg

When Obama starts to engage in inappropriate touching of other leaders, let us know, and then the two prez' will be on the same level.

Cycloptichorn
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:17 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

But here is an (though online, I'll look for the print edition later), from the most conservative of all British papers, theDaily Telegraph
Quote:
US Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson rejected Gordon Brown meeting

Hank Paulson, the US Treasury Secretary, is understood to have rejected a request for a meeting with Gordon Brown, delivering a snub to the Prime Minister during his visit to America.

... ... ...



Well based on these photos, I would say that the Telegraph was wrong:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/downingstreet/with/3029576903/
parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:20 pm
@Foxfyre,
Do you understand the concept of MONTHS Fox?

June is NOT April
November is NOT September.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:22 pm
@Foxfyre,
And this photo proves that Paulson didn't reject the meeting? Could you please explain that logic?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:23 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Good find, Cyclo. The reality of all this is that the conservatives had plenty to bitch about our president during Bush's two terms, but we heard hardly a peep. They are now into making moutains out of mole hills when compared to what Bush did during his eight years. It's really funny, because by all indications, the majority (that would include conservatives wouldn't it?) who had retirement savings in their 401ks and IRAs lost some 30 to 50% of their savings during Bush's presidency that ended on January 19, 2009. They still find Obama with less than two months in office as a "failure." Go figure. ?????????
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:25 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Do you understand the concept of MONTHS Fox?

June is NOT April
November is NOT September.


http://i40.tinypic.com/2ut1c3s.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/30hl9a8.jpg

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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 18 Mar, 2009 01:26 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

And this photo proves that Paulson didn't reject the meeting? Could you please explain that logic?


It's pretty difficult for two guys to shake hands and pose for the camera without meeting. The Telegraph article also did not say definitively that Paulson had rejected the meeting nor did Mr. Brown's staff confirm that he had or had not. And if it was such a 'snub', then why bother to include a photo with a treasury secretary? All the other photos were Mr. Brown and heads of state.
 

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