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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
genoves
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 12:25 am
@Foxfyre,
But, Foxfyre- Would you not admit the following?

a. Obama received huge backing from Blacks and Hispanics.(Indeed, fewer than half of whites voted for him. ) He needs to pay those groups back.

b.Obama is a populist. Probably a Socialist. Your comment to Nimh about "Marxist Tinged Socialism" was right on target but, as you have already learned many times,.Nimh is never off target. But, if you reference varieties of Socialism you will find that,indeed, both in Marxist Theory and as demonstrated in various European countries, Marxist Tinged Socialism exists and Obama is leading us to it.

c. Minly because of large Mexican Immigration, there are more and more illegals in the USA. Because Obama is a populist, watch for Democratic moves, despite the poor economy,to grant citizenship( and therefore voting rights) to more and more illegal ( who will be "forgiven") Hispanics. This will solidify the position of the DEMOSOCIALISTS for years.

Strap on your seat belt, Foxfyre--it's going to be a rough ride.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 02:08 pm
@genoves,
I agree that Obama received huge backing from various groups and perhaps he did so from some groups mostly because they were Black and Hispanic. But he owes them for their support and not because they are Black or Hispanic.

Obama's "Marxist tinged socialism" is becoming increasingly evident as he continues to attempt to heap benefits upon and therefore curry favor with the 'downtrodden' and 'oppressed' while continuing to blame their plight on anybody who is poorly understood by and therefore despised by the downtrodden and oppressed. We can look for the government to buy into and thereby take increasing control of more and more of our financial institutions and larger corporations. The responsible and productive can expect little or no help or relief from their government at this time while the irresponsible and nonproductive are to be rewarded.

And if Blacks and Hispanics happen to receive a disproportionate share of the promised rewards it will be because they chose or were coerced into irresponsible behavior and not because they are Black or Hispanic.

It is instructive, however, to explore whether the government intentionally targets Black or Hispanic people to be coerced and enticed into irresponsible behavior.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 03:28 pm
@Foxfyre,
Better to curry favor with the down-trodden than the wealthy. Nothing wrong with a little humility and humanity.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:09 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
[crapload of Foxfyre's self-laudatory hype omitted]

At this time I would like to report my perception of the public perception of what we are dealing with thus far:

[crapload of spitefully biased garbage omitted]

Stay tuned for more non-scientific analysis of the public pulse.


Your perception "of the public perception" is that the Democrat's core constituency consists of the undereducated, under motivated, under achievers, and the anti-social members of society? On the other hand, members of the Republican's core constituency, [of which you pledge your allegiance] are motivated achievers who contribute to society?

As a member of the public, I am OFFENDED by your alleged report of the "public perception." It is nothing more than blatantly biased garbage designed to offend everyone who voted for Obama and to place yourself on a pedestal. In case you forgot, it was the Republican party that orchestrated the downfall of America and created our current multi-faceted crisis. Now you dare to complain that the newly-minted Obama administration isn't cleaning up all of your profound messes fast enough. Go sit on the naughty stool until you're ready to apologize for ruining our country.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:13 pm
@Debra Law,
You're not getting it, Debra. Foxfyre is obviously a liberal who posts this stuff to caricature conservatives, Steven Colbert style. Her report on "public perceptions" can't possibly be serious. Silly you!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:17 pm
@Debra Law,
When Foxie says "public perception," she's talking about her myopic perception. I think Foxie is okie's sister; they seem to have the same "I'm super smart" gene.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:20 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

You're not getting it, Debra. Foxfyre is obviously a liberal who posts this stuff to caricature conservatives, Steven Colbert style. Her report on "public perceptions" can't possibly be serious. Silly you!


So true. I expect that Foxfyre will return shortly and reprimand me because SHE didn't actually say those things--it's the public perception of which she is perceiving that is responsible for all the crap she spewed. Silly me.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:23 pm
@Debra Law,
Debra Law wrote:
I expect that Foxfyre will return shortly and reprimand me because SHE didn't actually say those things

In my non-scientific perception, that's a no-brainer.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:34 pm
@Thomas,
Quote:
I expect that Foxfyre will return shortly and reprimand me because SHE didn't actually say those things


I think that I might have heard Foxfyre say that before. I can't be sure but I think I have.
Debra Law
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:39 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

Debra Law wrote:
I expect that Foxfyre will return shortly and reprimand me because SHE didn't actually say those things

In my non-scientific perception, that's a no-brainer.


Wink

I just put some pizza rolls in the oven for my afternoon snack. My husband and I--the under-educated, under-motivated, under-achievers that we are--somehow managed to pay for those pizza rolls without government assistance.

Other than that, I've been spending a lot of time lately using my under-educated liberal brain to work on numerous legal motions and briefs for alleged criminals. I'm probably not contributing to society, but I'm happy with my paycheck. Smile

Later, I think I'll go drill an oil well in ANWAR and complain about the severance taxes. That ought to put a smile on the faces of a few conservatives. Smile
Debra Law
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:43 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
I expect that Foxfyre will return shortly and reprimand me because SHE didn't actually say those things


I think that I might have heard Foxfyre say that before. I can't be sure but I think I have.


Only about a million times, but under-achievers like us don't count so an exact number isn't available.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:45 pm
@Debra Law,
Enjoy the pizza rolls, criminal-hugger. You never know when they'll declare Italy part of the axis of evil.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:50 pm
@Debra Law,
I'm another one of those under-achievers, but must admit I'm an Independent politically speaking. Foxie likes to call me a MAL, but she tags her definition on anyone she "sees" as meeting her definition without understanding that political tags don't work. (Not even for politicians.)

Been retired for over 12-years now, and have seen most of this world - all paid for by my own savings.

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:53 pm
I don't know how to square my inherent Liberal Laziness with my 55-60 hour work weeks and volunteer time I put in. I'm all confused!

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:57 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo, That's because you spend 40-hours on a2k.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 04:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Been retired for over 12-years now, and have seen most of this world - all paid for by my own savings.


You're a fool, CI. You should have waited for Obama's new plan due out soon; money for slackards and liberal underachievers to travel the world. We haven't put in all these years getting a socialist/commie president into power fer nothin', ya know.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 05:12 pm
@JTT,
My crystal ball wasn't working right. ;(
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 05:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I'm another one of those under-achievers, but must admit I'm an Independent politically speaking. Foxie likes to call me a MAL, but she tags her definition on anyone she "sees" as meeting her definition without understanding that political tags don't work. (Not even for politicians.)

Been retired for over 12-years now, and have seen most of this world - all paid for by my own savings.




Foxie likes to call herself a MAC. Without first praising myself for having my finger on the public pulse, here's my perception of the public perception of the most widely-held definition of a MAC:

A MAC is the motivated person who races to be the first person in the cheese line and then complains about all the socially-deficient bums standing behind her.
Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 05:59 pm
@Debra Law,
Are you sure? MAC = Motivated Accumulator of Cheese? The definition does have something to it.
Debra Law
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2009 06:07 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

Are you sure? MAC = Motivated Accumulator of Cheese? The definition does have something to it.


Yes! As Henry Higgins would say, "I think you've got it!"

MACs want all the cheese for themselves. They don't think anyone else is worthy of having any cheese. It's all about the cheese.
 

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