@parados,
parados wrote:Quote:Are you done niggling now, parados, or is there another post I can hopefully clear up for you, now that your accusations about that have been dispelled and explained?
You could clear up this question for me okie -
How can you be that much of an idiot?
CI found the post using my link. Your attempt to pretend my link didn't function is pretty silly.
Was gone for a few hours. In all honesty, parados, I clicked on your link, which gave me a small window with the post you are quoting, but when I clicked to enlarge the window, it moved on me, and a short scroll went to the wrong one. Before you get all wound up, it was an honest mistake. Here is the post# 3867090
okie wrote:ican, happy New Year to you, and for that matter - happy new year to every person here on this forum. I have been away from this forum for the past week, and with time I might review what has been posted, but frankly it is disheartening and pretty depressing to think about this year with the losers in the administration and the Congress that we have to deal with. I could be a whole lot more optimistic about the country if we had some adults in Washington that actually loved the country, and that knew how to be responsible and honest, and that would cease their ultra socialist takeover efforts, and that would cease lying to us as a part of that effort. They are virtual traitors to this country, the country that I thought every citizen should love and honor, but sadly they do not. We have some real work to do, to try to clean house in Washington when the next election rolls around.
Yes, I was pretty pessimistic when I wrote that post, parados. I am still pessimistic, with good reason for it, but slightly less pessimistic after the midterm elections.
The issue of adults in Washington, that was in reference to having an administration and a president with precious little experience to do the job that we need. Regarding socialist takeover, is there any doubt that Obama wants more socialistic programs? Obamacare is a prime example, and Obama admits to wanting single payer government run health care. I think health care is but one area that he would like to change. That is my opinion.
The accusation of "virtual traitors," that is a strong statement, I admit to that, and it is not one that I have used habitually, and not one that I would use now. As I said, I must have been particularly pessimistic that day. However, the use of "virtual" is important, because it indicates almost or nearly, but not proven in actual fact. Here is one definition found on the web:
"1.Existing or resulting in essence or effect though not in actual fact, form, or name." So, there is not in my opinion enough evidence to say they are traitors completely, but in my opinion they have done enough damage to the country in terms of the economy, the deficits and debt, and other policies that the country is suffering extremely, there is little doubt about that in my opinion.
I do also believe that the president does not have the same love for this country as previous presidents would traditionally have, and I include other Democrats in that as well. Before you get all wound up in a tizzy over this, understand that this is my opinion, based upon my following of him, reading his book, and reading about his associations. I realize you will not want to hear this again, but I do not believe that a man that loved this country as he should, would kick off his political career in the home of domestic terrorists and Marxists that had been involved in trying to overthrow the United States government at one point. You don't have to agree, but I think my opinion is well founded, and millions of people probably agree. This is heavy stuff, but I am merely expressing an opinion about why I have posted the opinions that I have posted.
I have also expressed the hope in previous postings that there is a chance that Obama might evolve somewhat in his thinking and philosophy, merely by the shear force of the responsibility of being president. There is even a chance that he could become more sympathetic to free markets and more conservative beliefs. Doubtful, but possible, and I can at least hope.
I am a law abiding citizen and simply want to see a responsible government in Washington to manage the government responsibly. I do not think that is happening. As a taxpaying and law abiding citizen, I have the right to express my opinion. You do not have to agree with it, parados.
So, in regard to using the term, "traitor," perhaps I used it with the qualifier "virtual," which does change the literal meaning, and at the present time, I do not think I would choose to use that term at all.
