AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Grow up, parados. This forum is for adults to debate with reasonable discourse. If you cannot bring yourself to do that, why don't you do something else?

If you are so intellectually shallow as to not see the difference between words like unAmerican and traitor, then I suggest you become more informed. To be defined as a traitor, there are certain conditions that must be met. I think you can be unAmerican without actually committing acts as a traitor. I also think wrecking or trying to destroy something can be quite different, depending upon the intent of the person, and context of how the words are used. For example, I think the economy is a wreck right now, but not destroyed. Are you that shallow as to not see the difference, parados?

We've been through this debate before, but you continue to insist upon using your twisted reasoning, apparently for the goal you have set for yourself to try to discredit me. You even went to the point of starting the thread "Okie Knows Farming," I think with that goal to discredit me, but all you did was make yourself look silly and cast more doubt upon your honesty.

Again, if you continue to call names using gutter language without having a decent debate here, why don't you just bug off and do something else worthwhile until you can grow up? Go milk some cows and bale some hay.

That's nice okie.. So.. since you know that traitor is defined by the US Constituiton why did you refer to the US President as a traitor? Did you forget that part of the Constitution on those days you called the President a traitor?

parados, Don't you tire of okie's contradictions? He's one of those extremists who can't remember what he says from one post to the next; he lacks memory - in everything!

When there's no consistency, you're trying to have a discussion with a sick mind.

I don't remember calling him a traitor. You will need to provide a quote, if there is one, so that I can see the context in which it was used. I do recall saying that I think the president is unAmerican in some of his beliefs and initiatives, but that is not the same as being a traitor, not at all. Again, produce the quote if you have one, and we can discuss it, hopefully in a civil manner. Do you think you can do it?

okie, Quit your bull shitting; you've been caught contradicting yourself so often, it's tiresome. You ask us to look for your contradictions; that's not only a stupid request, it's downright idiotic. We've proven you contradict yourself enough times; you should have learned already!

Look for your own goddam contradictions.

It is incumbent upon the accuser to provide evidence, ci.

You sure know how to contradict yourself on the same post; a) communists are subversive, and b) democrats got us involved in Korea and Vietnam to fight communism.

You're too dumb to recognize your own stupidity.

Are you saying I SHOULD prove you to be a lying sack of ****?

No, it's been already shown that you contradict yourself. It's incumbent upon the stupid poster to correct his/her ways to eliminate contradictions in their own posts.

So okie.. Let's play a game...

Do you deny that these are your words?
Do you deny that "they" refer to Democrats in Washington including Obama?

Please provide the link to the post, parados, so that we can look at the context.

Are you denying you said those words okie?

I swear, did you just completely forget the last time you two went through this? This is the exact same thing that happened then and it ended with you admitting that yeah, you said things that in retrospect you probably shouldn't have.

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okie seems to remember that he won last time and I never showed anything.

He does live in a fantasy world and FOX news never told him he lost so it can't be true.

Okie, it looks like you are surrounded by annoying little ankle biters.

The question becomes, how many times must we show okie he has contradicted himself before he takes responsibility for them? He wants "us" to do his hunting to find his most recent one. How does his family and friends live with this guy?

I've told you numerous times that I don't remember every word I've posted on this forum. Do you?
It is no secret that I have not been a fan of President Obama and this administration, and I have said so in many different ways. One of the reasons is that Obama has never been an open book to us in this country, and so there is a wide divergence of how he is viewed among people. I have always openly said that I think he harbors some unAmerican ideas that run counter to traditional American ideals.
There have been some days that I have been more frustrated than others at this administration and the Democrats in Washington, so on those days I might have posted more severe criticism.
Again, please provide a link to the actual post you are referring to, so that we can have a civil discussion, hopefully.

Here is more of the quote okie..



So now.. we see you are referring to those that lie and are attempting a socialist takeover.

Do you deny you claimed Obama lied? Do you deny you have gone on repeatedly about how Obama is a socialist and attempting to take over the country?

Hello squirt.. coming to enjoy the fun?

Again, please provide the link to the post, parados. That should not be too difficult to do.