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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 01:26 pm
Quote:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=20048&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD
How ObamaCare Burdens Already Strained State Budgets
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) puts cash-strapped states in a tenuous position, forcing them into one or more unattractive policy choices: cut spending in crucial areas (such as public safety and education) to compensate for the additional health care costs, raise taxes to fund the new spending, or borrow money to pay the bill and sink further into debt. Given the political and economic challenges associated with higher taxes and more debt, it is likely that states will choose the least of three evils and make even deeper budget cuts, says Lanhee Chen, a visiting scholar at the University of California at Berkeley's Institute of Governmental Studies.
Several states have initiated their own estimates of PPACA's impact.
• Texas recently concluded that the Medicaid expansion may add more than two million people to the program and cost the state up to $27 billion in a single decade.
• The Florida Agency for Health Care Administration estimated in April 2010 that PPACA's Medicaid expansion would require an additional $5.2 billion in spending between 2013 and 2019, and more than $1 billion a year beginning in 2017.
• In California, the Legislative Analyst's Office concluded that PPACA's Medicaid expansion will likely add annual costs to the state budget in "the low billions of dollars."
In every crisis there is opportunity -- state policymakers should act quickly to seize it, says Chen.
• First, state lawmakers should focus on cutting or holding constant all discretionary spending.
• Second, states should proactively enact their own health care reforms that focus on controlling costs, improving quality, and expanding consumer choice and market-based competition.
• Finally, state lawmakers should demand that federal officials be held accountable for dumping billions in unfunded liabilities onto states.
Source: Lanhee Chen, "How ObamaCare Burdens Already Strained State Budgets," Heritage Foundation, November 10, 2010.

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JPB
 
  2  
Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 04:32 pm
Gingrich:
Quote:
The possible 2012 presidential candidate added, “The challenge for us is to have a Republican Party of jobs and paychecks replace a Democratic Party of bureaucracy and food stamps.”

Gingrich also listed 12 ideas for the assembled Republican governors here. Those ideas included: turning the millions spent on unemployment insurance into a job-training program; turn Medicaid funds into block grants by the number of people in poverty per state; and insist on the teaching of “American exceptionalism” in all public-financed schools.


job-training for what jobs, newt? How are the unemployed supposed to eat or pay rent in the meantime?

insist on the teaching of "American exceptionalism" as an important legislative mission? What a freaking waste of legislative time and money!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 04:37 pm
@JPB,
JPB:
Quote:
What a freaking waste of legislative time and money!


That's been going on a very long time - from both parties.
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squinney
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 09:59 pm
@JPB,
The job training for the unemployed is already being done. I had to attend a series of classes, one of which covered No/Low cost community college classes we could take to learn a new trade or upgrade skills.

We also have job corp.

We also have Pell grants.

Newt obviously isn't aware of what IS being done and would rather present this as Republican ideas and pretend they are presenting something new. The Fox watchers will see it and nod along without giving it any thought.
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ican711nm
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 03:22 pm
George Soros, " My goal is the establishment of a new and stable world order. ... The USA is the main obstacle to establishing a new and stable World Order. ... My process was and is:
Establish a shadow government;
Control communications;
Destabilize the state;
Provoke an election crisis;
Take power."

GEORGE SOROS in his 1995 book, page 145, [I]Soros on Soros[/I], wrote:
I do not accept the rules imposed by others. If I did, I would not be alive today. I am a law-abiding citizen, but I recognize that there are regimes that need to be opposed rather than accepted. And in periods of regime change, the normal rules don't apply. One needs to adjust one's behavior to the changing circumstances.

Bruck, in The World According to Soros, page 58, wrote:
Tividar [George Soros's father] saved his family by splitting them up, providing them with forged papers and false identities as Christians, and bribing Gentile families to take them in. George Soros took the name Sandor Kiss, and posed as the godson of a man named Baumbach, an official of Hungary's fascist regime. Baumbach was assigned to deliver deportation notices to Jews and confiscate Jewish property. [Baumbach] brought young Soros with him on his rounds.

Michael Kaufman in his biography of George Soros, page 293, [I]Soros [/I], wrote:
My goal is to become the conscience of the world

GEORGE SOROS in his 2000 book, page 337, [I]Open Society[/I], wrote:
Usually it takes a crisis to prompt a meaningful change in direction.

GEORGE SOROS in the Washington Post, page A03 of November 11, 2003, wrote:
Ousting Bush from the White House is the central focus of my life. It's a matter of life and death.

GEORGE SOROS in the 2003 edition of his book, page 15, [I]The Alchemy of Finance[/I], wrote:
My greatest fear is that the Bush Doctrine will succeed--that Bush will crush the terrorists, tame the rogue states of the axis of evil, and usher in a golden age of American supremacy. American supremacy is flawed and bound to fail in the long run.

What I am afraid of is that the pursuit of American supremacy may be successful for a while because the United States in fact employs a dominant position in the world today.

GEORGE SOROS on June 10, 2004 to the Associated Press, wrote:

These are not normal times.

GEORGE SOROS in his 2004 book, page 159, [I]The Bubble of American Supremacy[/I], wrote:
The principles of the Declaration of Independence are not self-evident truths but arrangements necessitated by our inherently imperfect understanding.

Quote:
In April 2005 the Soros funded Campus Progress web site posted this headline: "An Invitation to Help Design the Constitution in 2020" (This was an invitation to a Yale law School Conference on "The Constitution of 2020: a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.")

Sam Hananel in his associated Press article, December 10, 2004, wrote:
On December 9, 2004, Eli Pariser, who headed Soros's group Moveon PAC, boasted to his members, "Now the Democratic Party is our party. We bought it, we own it."

Quote:
Soros … pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.

Quote:
Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million. (All were groups that worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election.) On September 28, 2004 he dedicated more money to the campaign and kicked off his own multi-state tour with a speech: Why We Must Not Re-elect President Bush[19] delivered at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 06:40 pm
@ican711nm,
Soros and Obama are of the same mindset.

ican711nm wrote:

George Soros, " My goal is the establishment of a new and stable world order. ... The USA is the main obstacle to establishing a new and stable World Order. ... My process was and is:
Establish a shadow government;
Control communications;
Destabilize the state;
Provoke an election crisis;
Take power."

GEORGE SOROS in his 1995 book, page 145, [I]Soros on Soros[/I], wrote:
I do not accept the rules imposed by others. If I did, I would not be alive today. I am a law-abiding citizen, but I recognize that there are regimes that need to be opposed rather than accepted. And in periods of regime change, the normal rules don't apply. One needs to adjust one's behavior to the changing circumstances.

Bruck, in The World According to Soros, page 58, wrote:
Tividar [George Soros's father] saved his family by splitting them up, providing them with forged papers and false identities as Christians, and bribing Gentile families to take them in. George Soros took the name Sandor Kiss, and posed as the godson of a man named Baumbach, an official of Hungary's fascist regime. Baumbach was assigned to deliver deportation notices to Jews and confiscate Jewish property. [Baumbach] brought young Soros with him on his rounds.

Michael Kaufman in his biography of George Soros, page 293, [I]Soros [/I], wrote:
My goal is to become the conscience of the world

GEORGE SOROS in his 2000 book, page 337, [I]Open Society[/I], wrote:
Usually it takes a crisis to prompt a meaningful change in direction.

GEORGE SOROS in the Washington Post, page A03 of November 11, 2003, wrote:
Ousting Bush from the White House is the central focus of my life. It's a matter of life and death.

GEORGE SOROS in the 2003 edition of his book, page 15, [I]The Alchemy of Finance[/I], wrote:
My greatest fear is that the Bush Doctrine will succeed--that Bush will crush the terrorists, tame the rogue states of the axis of evil, and usher in a golden age of American supremacy. American supremacy is flawed and bound to fail in the long run.

What I am afraid of is that the pursuit of American supremacy may be successful for a while because the United States in fact employs a dominant position in the world today.

GEORGE SOROS on June 10, 2004 to the Associated Press, wrote:

These are not normal times.

GEORGE SOROS in his 2004 book, page 159, [I]The Bubble of American Supremacy[/I], wrote:
The principles of the Declaration of Independence are not self-evident truths but arrangements necessitated by our inherently imperfect understanding.

Quote:
In April 2005 the Soros funded Campus Progress web site posted this headline: "An Invitation to Help Design the Constitution in 2020" (This was an invitation to a Yale law School Conference on "The Constitution of 2020: a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.")

Sam Hananel in his associated Press article, December 10, 2004, wrote:
On December 9, 2004, Eli Pariser, who headed Soros's group Moveon PAC, boasted to his members, "Now the Democratic Party is our party. We bought it, we own it."

Quote:
Soros … pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.

Quote:
Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million. (All were groups that worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election.) On September 28, 2004 he dedicated more money to the campaign and kicked off his own multi-state tour with a speech: Why We Must Not Re-elect President Bush[19] delivered at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.


Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 06:44 pm
@ican711nm,
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with any of that or any of those quotes. At all. You just think so because you have little ability to separate truth from fiction, and your masters have told you he's the Devil, and you believe it. A little pathetic.

Cycloptichorn
ican711nm
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 07:33 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Specifically, Cyclo, what is wrong with those quotes of Soros?

If you do not rationally answer this question, then it is obvious that you do not know the answer, but only wish these Soros quotes to be wrong. Then it would be you who "just think so because you have little ability to separate truth from fiction, and your masters have told you he's [your god], and you believe it."
ican711nm
 
  0  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 07:35 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I hope you don't delude yourself into thinking anyone reads what you post.

Sorry that you delude yourself into thinking no one reads what I post.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 07:38 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:
Specifically, Cyclo, what is wrong with those quotes of Soros?


You misunderstand me; nothing is wrong with them in any way. They are accurate quotes. There's just nothing wrong or bad about any of them at all. And there's nothing bad about him donating money to politics - your side has super-rich patrons who do exactly this, constantly. Yet you never post about it, because you don't actually give a **** about that. You just hate Democrats and like to attack them.

Quote:
If you do not rationally answer this question, then it is obvious that you do not know the answer, but only wish these Soros quotes to be wrong.


I don't wish them to be wrong in any way.

Quote:
Then it would be you who "just think so because you have little ability to separate truth from fiction, and your masters have told you he's [your god], and you believe it."


So, yeah. I guess I rationally answered the question.

Cycloptichorn
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 07:39 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Soros and Obama are of the same mindset.

Yes! But that that is what one should expect from Obama. After all, he is a loyal employee of George Soros!
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 07:46 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
Michael Kaufman in his biography of George Soros, page 293, Soros , wrote:
My goal is to become the conscience of the world


I am shocked that anyone would think to do the world that much good. What is wrong with him!?

Quote:
GEORGE SOROS in his 2000 book, page 337, Open Society, wrote:
Usually it takes a crisis to prompt a meaningful change in direction.


Wow! What a dangerous thing to say! The idea that society needs correction during a crisis is certainly serious . . . life-threatening, to say the least!

Quote:
GEORGE SOROS on June 10, 2004 to the Associated Press, wrote:

These are not normal times.


Shocking!

Quote:
Quote:
Soros … pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.


Wouldn't all rather have Wall Street and the Captains of Industry buy our candidates for us? The Supreme Court recently made sure they will . . . which doesn't seem to be in the Constitution. Oh, I guess the SC said the hell with originalism!


Quote:
Quote:
Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million. (All were groups that worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election.) On September 28, 2004 he dedicated more money to the campaign and kicked off his own multi-state tour with a speech: Why We Must Not Re-elect President Bush[19] delivered at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.


What will he give money to next? The Humane Society! Heifer International! Shocking, I say (imagine, for just one moment, that I sound like Foghorn Leghorn). I say, shocking!


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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 07:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Gee, Cyclo, those quotes scared the bejesus out of me. I'm just taking a break from bricking up my front door, but, I am shaking in my boots!

To think, that people as non compos mentis as ican and the big drip are free to walk the streets just gives me the shivers.
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okie
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 08:00 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:
GEORGE SOROS in his 2000 book, page 337, [I]Open Society[/I], wrote:
Usually it takes a crisis to prompt a meaningful change in direction.

That reminds me, ican, hasn't Rahm Emmanuel and perhaps Obama been on record as saying that they should not waste a crisis to get things done?
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okie
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 08:01 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with any of that or any of those quotes. At all. Cycloptichorn

You have to be kidding? You are, aren't you, cyclops? It is evident from what Soros believes that he intends to overthrow the United States as we know it. This is serious business this man is up to, and not to be taken lightly. Sadly, he is also the man that guides the Democratic Party and its policies. We are entering troubled waters, folks.
Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 08:37 pm
@okie,
Quote:
It is evident from what Soros believes that he intends to overthrow the United States as we know it.


Actually, that is not evident from what he says. I think it would be difficult for you to show how this is true.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
  0  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 08:46 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Quote:
It is evident from what Soros believes that he intends to overthrow the United States as we know it.
Actually, that is not evident from what he says. I think it would be difficult for you to show how this is true.
Cycloptichorn
Then you do not interpret as any reasonable person would - this statement posted by ican as one of the things Soros wrote and apparently believes, as follows:
Quote:
George Soros, " My goal is the establishment of a new and stable world order. ... The USA is the main obstacle to establishing a new and stable World Order. ... My process was and is:
Establish a shadow government;
Control communications;
Destabilize the state;
Provoke an election crisis;
Take power."


cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2010 08:48 pm
@okie,
Looks to me like the conservatives are helping Soros more than the liberals; they're main goal is to destroy our president. Are they succeeding or not?
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 20 Nov, 2010 04:51 am
@cicerone imposter,
Your presidents main goal is to destroy or country, G Soros is
backing his efforts 100%. Can the rest of the world stop them?
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Cycloptichorn
 
  0  
Reply Sat 20 Nov, 2010 09:46 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
Quote:
It is evident from what Soros believes that he intends to overthrow the United States as we know it.
Actually, that is not evident from what he says. I think it would be difficult for you to show how this is true.
Cycloptichorn
Then you do not interpret as any reasonable person would - this statement posted by ican as one of the things Soros wrote and apparently believes, as follows:
Quote:
George Soros, " My goal is the establishment of a new and stable world order. ... The USA is the main obstacle to establishing a new and stable World Order. ... My process was and is:
Establish a shadow government;
Control communications;
Destabilize the state;
Provoke an election crisis;
Take power."



That's not a quote from Soros; it was likely written by Richard Poe, notorious right-wing idiot, describing the 'velvet revolution' which lead to the overthrow of the Czech Republic, if I remember correctly. He wrote such things in Newsmax back in 2003 and 2004, though there were seven supposed steps back then. In recent years, it's been picked up by none other than your favorite, Glenn Beck - who appears to have edited the number of steps down to five. The entire thing is made up, completely, from start to finish. Ican likely got this in an email or was watching Beck on TV, and thought he'd come smear Soros some here, for fun.

As far as I can tell, the rest are actual Soros quotes, and there's nothing wrong with them.

You do know about Google, right? You type things into hit, hit 'search,' and then it comes back with results. If you had spent even one minute doing this, you would have found all this out for yourself. That's all I'm asking, man. Just spend one minute looking things up before you post here. And then it saves you the trouble of posting something inaccurate and me the trouble of having to write two or three paragraphs pointing that out.

Cycloptichorn
 

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