AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Yes, this statement is a quote of what Soros himself has said on several occassions. I personally witnessed TV videos of more than one of those occassions displayed on Glenn Beck's TV programs.
George Soros said, "My goal is the establishment of a new and stable world order. ... The USA is the main obstacle to establishing a new and stable World Order. ... My process was and is:
Establish a shadow government;
Control communications;
Destabilize the state;
Provoke an election crisis;"
Take power.[/quote]

ican, Who's more powerful, Soros or Limbaugh?

Anybody, even you, can declare something, but you must show proof by the evidence provided by a credible public poll taken by a reliable poll-taking organization. Have you done that yet?

Example: I'm god, and I control the US. Can you show me evidence that that's not true?

Soros: I control the US. Show me evidence.

As far as I have been able to discover, ican is the author of the words he credits to George Soros. No one else said/wrote/recorded that set of words, in that order other than ican.

There is a possibility that glenn beck may have created those lines and credited them to Soros. On the 9th of this month, beck devoted an entire program to Soros in an effort to destroy and discredit him. There is a web site in which some people who are as gullible and as unsophisticated as ican believe what beck had to say and are cheered by the fact that Soros is more than 80 years old.

I am learning stuff about Soros I never knew, with just a little online searching. Apparently, as a teenager in Budapest, he turned in his own fellow Jews to be shipped off to the concentration camps to be mass murdered. So it turns out he allied with the Nazis against his own people, possibly for his own self survival. Apparently, Beck did an expose on this, and just a little research indicates this is all over the internet, and so pervasive as to make me believe it is apparently true. I knew Soros was one radical dude with alot of money that he has been throwing into all of his front organizations supporting the Democrats, but I did not know that he may in fact be a war criminal as well.

I would advise everyone to check it out for yourself and find out about this man. After all, as has been pointed out and as is common knowledge, he is in fact one of the primary movers and shakers, perhaps "THE" primary mover and shaker behind the modern Democratic Party in the United States of America. If you are a Democrat or a liberal or independent that votes Democrat, you need to get up to speed on this guy.

You can stick your head in the sand, pom, but ignorance is not a good alibi. You really need to check out George Soros in an intellectually honest fashion, and honestly ask yourself, is this what you wish to support?

Why study Soros? Can you provide us with proof (evidence) of how much he controls the US?

I'm an American citizen, and Soros isn't even a thought for me. The only reason I know of Soros is because you conservatives love to mention his name.

How has Soros controlled your life?

So what? The Bush family has/had some notorious characters as close friends and business associates too! Have you heard the name Bin Laden? Do some research on them. You'll find plenty.

Not only were the Sr and Jr Bush our presidents, they were the leaders of the GOP!

My god! What's next.

One little issue you might wish to consider, ci, when Soros threw his support behind Obama, he had enough influence to help him overcome Hillary, the heir apparent at the time. Count me as one that was mystified as to why the press and the Democratic power brokers decided to push a novice and inexperienced community organizer from Chicago over Hillary. They trumped up Obama as a virtual Messiah, and his history never supported it, no way, ci, admit it. I still think there is much more to the story than meets the eye, that there were lots of things that apparently happened behind the scenes that none of us know. It does seem apparent that the tide began to turn after Obama met with Soros, and Soros shifted his support to him. I do in fact think that Soros weilds alot of power with all of his money and all of his front groups. I would advise you to read up and find out more about who you are supporting.

All conjecture, okie. Show us proof/evidence. You're always making erroneous assumptions about politics and economics. Where did you learn these subjects? FOX News?

Money can't buy votes, okie. That's been proven during the last election in California when Whitman spent $141 million of her own money.

It is not conjecture. It is instead a plausible, if debatable, interpretation of well known events. Moreover similar opinions have been voiced by many commentators. That certainly doesn't prove they are correct, however it does make your blanket denial and premptory demand for proof look very narrow-minded and foolish.

You are again evading the points under discussion with unjustified demands for proof and unwarranted, mean-spirited personal attacks.

Incidentally, I am now reading Tom Brokaw's Greatest Generation book, and there is a section on George Bush Senior, and the family. Face it, the man was an American hero. Far different, ci, than a guy like Soros, not even born in this country, and has a questionable past to say the least. He has not only committed insider trading to help amass a fortune, but he started out as a kid that apparently sided with the Nazis in Budapest, and helped turn in fellow Jews so they could be exterminated.

Get serious, ci. This is not childs play when you vote for these guys.

Can you provide some links to some of those "many commentators" with similar opinions about the Obama vs Hillary influenced by Soros? I'm asking, because I read alot, and don't remember any. It could be my faulty memory, but what I remember about the 2008 election was the huge turnout of college students who voted for Obama. Where was Soros' influence there?

Also, as a voter in 2008, I don't remember anything that influenced my vote based on what Soros may have done. Was he hidden that well from all the major media?

Of course it is not conjecture to believe that money is crucial to run political campaigns, and to suggest otherwise is pure silliness on the part of cicerone imposter. If money could not or did not influence any election, then the parties would not spend so much time trying to raise the funds. Money of course is not the only factor, but money is necessary to get the candidates message out there, via all the different methods, almost all of which cost money.

From Wiki:

Soros was thirteen years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary. Soros worked for the Jewish Council, which had been established during the Nazi occupation of Hungary to forcibly carry out Nazi and Hungarian government anti-Jewish measures. Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis:
The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper...It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m....And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported."

In 1944, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. On one occasion, the official was ordered to inventory the remaining contents of the estate of a wealthy Jewish family that had fled the country. Rather than leave the young George alone in the city, the official brought him along. The following year, Soros survived the Battle of Budapest, in which Soviet and German forces fought house-to-house through the city.

Soros immigrated to England in 1947 and, as an impoverished student, lived with his uncle, an Orthodox Jew. His uncle paid his living expenses while he attended the London School of Economics, where he received a Bachelor of Science in Philosophy in 1952. While a student of the philosopher Karl Popper, Soros worked as a railway porter and as a waiter. A University tutor requested aid for Soros, and he received £40 from a Religious Society of Friends (Quaker) charity. He eventually secured an entry-level position with London merchant bank Singer & Friedlander. He has a cousin from that family era, Caron Enlander (née Weiss) in New York.

okie, If it was Soros' money that influenced the votes in 2008, please provide some evidence of it. I voted for Obama based on what Obama said during the campaign.

Please prove my silliness wrong.

According to the right-wing information site, discoverthenetworks.com, Richard Poe first promulgated the idea that Soros has connections with what poe calls "a shadow party."

Discoverthenetworks.com is an arm of the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

Thanks, pom, that is fascinating, and it could help explain how Soros acquired some of his political philosophy as well as him thinking he could become somebody very important and powerful.

The only sources for the Soros/NAzi connection seem to be from the extreme right.

After reading this piece in the Guardian, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

I suggest that Horowitz and company have created the Soros/Nazi connection in response to years of speculation on the Nazi connections of Prescott Bush.

This is a duplicate post, because okie missed it: