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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:09 pm
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http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=20035&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD
How to Shut Down Fannie and Freddie
Although Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac played a central role in causing the recent economic crisis, they are absent from the reform plans of Congress and the Obama administration, says Emil W. Henry, the CEO of Henry, Tiger, LLC, and an assistant secretary of the Treasury from 2005 to 2007.
The Treasury doesn't need Congress or an academic assessment in order to tackle the most important reform goal: eliminating the government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) and moving their activities to the private sector. Secretary Geithner himself can immediately reshape the mortgage markets -- by withholding his approval of new debt issuances by the GSEs. That's the best way to begin curtailing the GSEs, and it can be done unilaterally.
• If the Obama administration is serious about addressing the GSEs, it should re-establish a rigorous process to review all GSE debt issuance.
• That process should require the GSEs to provide Treasury with full financial data and justification for issuances, including statistics that show the creditworthiness of the agencies after each offering.
• In addition, the Treasury secretary should have to approve all new debt issuances personally.
The administration should also announce that in 2012 the Treasury will begin to deny a portion of GSE debt issuances with the goal of reducing their debt 50 percent by 2015 and 100 percent by 2018. This eight-year period of adjustment would allow the private markets ample time to provide secondary market liquidity, says Henry.
Large banks may be wary of this solution because the federalization of the GSEs has offered them a stable vehicle for off-loading their mortgages. Policymakers, meanwhile, will worry about impairing the recovery if a private market is slow to materialize. But the alternative is keeping the flawed system whereby liquidity depends upon distorted price discovery, permanent subsidization and the economic judgments of bureaucrats.
Source: Emil W. Henry Jr., "How to Shut Down Fannie and Freddie," November 11, 2010.


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http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=20036&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD
The Politics of Budget Cutting
Cutting borrowing and spending is inevitable if America is to avoid a Greece-like implosion. But as the blood sport begins, we should remember the strange politics that govern the process, says Victor Davis Hanson, a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution.
First, no one ever reduces government in good times, when we would be far better able to limit spending, and the public needs less assistance -- it only happens after the economy falters and the money runs out.
Second, raising taxes has limits, as we see from the California meltdown.
• There, a 10 percent state income tax on upper incomes and a sales tax of nearly 10 percent did not result in balanced budgets, but instead sent many high earners and businesses out of state, and made the ones that stayed stop hiring and buying equipment.
• Employers will prefer to shut down or hide rather than take risks while they feed the ever-growing state beast.
Third, politicians promise the easy cutting of generic "waste and fraud," "foreign aid" or "unnecessary wars."
• The problem, however, is that waste, wars and aid probably account for less than 5 percent of the federal budget this year.
• In contrast, more than 60 percent of yearly spending is devoted to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and defense expenditures not directly related to war.
Fourth, self-interest governs the entire debate, says Davis Hanson.
• Roughly half the public pays no income tax and roughly half of Americans receive all of their income or a large part of it from the federal government.
• Beneficiaries vote for higher taxes on others and more benefits for themselves.
• Benefactors obviously prefer fewer payouts for others and lower taxes on themselves.
Fifth, there is always a "you go first" element to budget cutting. The party that imposes discipline is demagogued, even as its opportunistic opposition usually claims credit for the improved economy that follows from the responsible policies of others.
Source: Victor Davis Hanson, "The Politics of Budget Cutting," National Review Online, November 11, 2010

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http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=20032&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD
Job-Killing Environmentalists
President Barack Obama seems more concerned with appeasing environmental extremists in his administration than he is with the lost jobs of Americans, says Jon Basil Utley, associate publisher of the American Conservative.
Below are three areas where the environmental extremists hope to wreak havoc on the American economy:
Carbon Dioxide.
• Human activity accounts for less than 4 percent of global CO2 emissions and CO2 itself accounts for only 10 percent or 20 percent of the greenhouse effect.
• Water vapor accounts for most of the other 80 percent.
• The Christian Science Monitor recently published an analysis of how the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) plans for reducing carbon dioxide could cause the loss of over a million jobs and raise every family's energy costs by over $1,200.
Factory Boilers.
• The EPA wants new, more stringent limits on soot emissions from industrial and factory boilers.
• This would cost $9.5 billion according to the EPA, or over $20 billion according to the American Chemistry Council.
• A study released by the Council of Industrial Boiler Owners says the new rules would put 300,000 to 800,000 jobs at risk as industries opted to close plants rather than pay the expensive new costs.
Ground Level Ozone.
• The EPA has asked the U.S. government to enact new smog regulations for ground-level ozone that will cut levels to .006 to .007 parts per million -- this comes less than two years after standards were set at .0075 particles of pollutants per one million.
• The New York Times reports that the agency quotes the price tag of such a change at between $19 billion and $100 billion per year by 2020.
It's time for Congress to investigate what the EPA and its reckless agenda is costing American workers, businesses and taxpayers, says Utley.
Source: Jon Basil Utley, "Job-Killing Environmentalists," Reason Magazine, November 10, 2010.

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:25 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Well, Cyclo, I guess you need to lump me in with Okie and Georgeob. If a member of Congress adds (earmarks) $1 via amendment to a $200 piece of legislation that passes, the total is not $201? Instead it is still $200 but with $1 going towards the earmark. Are you sure?


Just wanted to follow up on this with a more in-depth look at the matter:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/much-ado-about-earmarks-what-will-the-gops-ban-plan-do.php?ref=fpblg

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Much Ado About Earmarks: What Will The GOP's Ban Actually Do?
Evan McMorris-Santoro | November 16, 2010, 12:50PM

Senate Republicans are expected to join their House colleagues in banning the time-honored practice of earmarking in a behind-closed-doors meeting later today. Much has been made in recent days of the proposed moratorium on porking up a Congressional spending bill with federally-funded goodies for your home state or district (or seeing to it that your constituents get their fair piece of the government money pie, depending on your point of view). The president wants earmarks gone. The tea party -- led by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) -- wants earmarks gone. And now, the Republicans want them gone, too.

But what will the GOP's proposed ban actually do?

In many ways, the battle will now simply shift to what exactly counts as an earmark.

For instance, noted earmark opponent Rep. Michele Bachmann told the Star-Tribune yesterday that "advocating for transportation projects for one's district in my mind does not equate to an earmark."

The proposed earmark moratorium that Senate Republicans will vote on today would essentially be enforced only through politics -- it has no real force of law. It's similar to the ban adopted by the House GOP, which, according to Steve Ellis at Taxpayers for Common Sense, is pretty comprehensive all told. Only four members of the House GOP caucus earmarked after their caucus moratorium, despite the fact that any of them could have.

"I don't know what the enforcement mechanisms might be," Ellis, who's an advocate of the ban, said of the expected Senate GOP moratorium. "But I would imagine that all would go along."

Republican Sens. Tom Coburn (OK) and DeMint are expected to try and pass a ban with the force of law behind it through the Senate as well. Past attempts to do that have failed on the Senate floor.

Still, according to the experts and advocates I talked to over the past couple days, the symbolism of banning earmarking -- even if it's non-binding with plenty of loopholes -- cannot be denied. Americans have come to consider them the scourge of the budget process, the worst in Congressional corruption. But when it comes to actually doing something serious to save the country from financial ruin, they say ending earmarking will have little or nothing to do with getting the federal budget back on track.

"There are many people in this country who think that getting rid of deficits means getting rid of earmarks," sighed James Horney of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. "In reality it has very little to do with deficit reduction."

Horney's logic is simple: earmarking, he says, is generally used to direct money Congress already thinks it should be spending on things like bridges and scientific research. Get rid of earmarks and you don't kill the spending, you just divert it somewhere else.


"What really needs to happen is we need to have a really serious debate about what's important for the federal government to do," Horney told me.

Democrats and Obama have already taken strides to reform earmarking, and House Republicans under soon-to-be Speaker John Boehner have voluntarily banned the practice in their ranks.

"I don't think there's any evidence that it has reduced the amount of spending," Horney told me. "It comes down to how you allocate specific funding to specific programs and I don't think that reducing or reforming earmarks will do very much to change that."

Even advocates of the earmark ban, like Ellis, agree that ending the practice will not be the end to reckless government spending.

"A moratorium is a means to end," Ellis said. Still, he was much more excited about the potential of a ban to really change things than Horney was.

"It will save billions," he said. "Not one-for-one to be sure, but significant sums of cash."

Ellis says Congress builds in extra funds to appropriations bills in anticipation of money being earmarked away from legislative priorities. Eliminating earmarking would in turn eliminate the need for that extra cash, he said.

"Also, in some cases a less important project with a powerful backer will get more funding than a critical project in a freshman's district," he said. "There is an opportunity cost to that as well. Money that is wasted on one lawmaker's boondoggle isn't available for other more pressing national priorities."

To be sure, Ellis says his group is "very excited about this brave new world without earmarks." (That's not going to happen entirely, of course: Democrats have shown little interest in banning earmarking, and they're still in the Senate majority.) But Ellis also told me that a ban will probably just require spending reform advocates like him to keep an even closer eye on what happens in Congress.

"Of course there will be efforts to evade and game the system -- whatever it is," Ellis told me. "But then we have got to ramp up efforts to expose and stop it."


Cycloptichorn
georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:42 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Well the article you pasted was longer than most previous comments, but not any more "in depth" in my opinion. No one here has disputed the dollar amount associated with earmarks or how they work with respect to authorization and appropriations bills - most merely redirect already authorized money, though some do indeed involve new appropriations.

The argument against them has centered on two aspects of earmarks;
(1) Their use has grown very fast in recent Congresses and that process appears to be continuing.
(2) They contribute to the corruption of the legislative process and the actions of career legislators themselves, and they short-circuit the normal administration and Congrressional committee oversight of such appropriations.

The article you pasted acknowledged all of this and added very little beyond it.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 02:56 pm
@georgeob1,
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No one here has disputed the dollar amount associated with earmarks or how they work with respect to authorization and appropriations bills - most merely redirect already authorized money, though some do indeed involve new appropriations.


On the contrary, the phrase 'save 16 billion dollars' was thrown around by several here; as well as saying that '.5% of the budget isn't just a drop in the bucket..' and other statements which seem to indicate that this wasn't in fact general knowledge.

Quote:
The argument against them has centered on two aspects of earmarks;
(1) Their use has grown very fast in recent Congresses and that process appears to be continuing.
(2) They contribute to the corruption of the legislative process and the actions of career legislators themselves, and they short-circuit the normal administration and Congrressional committee oversight of such appropriations.

The article you pasted acknowledged all of this and added very little beyond it.


Maybe your arguments against them consisted of that. Not everyone's here did, and I wasn't responding to you...

The interesting part highlighted by that article was actually just a little blurb - about how Republicans are simply going to 'redefine' what an earmark means, i.e., business will continue as usual. Bachmann, supposed 'Tea Party' darling, is already finding inventive names for her pork projects, and my guess is that she suffers no repercussions from any Conservative for doing so.

Cycloptichorn
georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 04:23 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Oh, I agree that legislators of both parties will seek to find ways around the new awareness. That's just the predictable outcome of legislative venality and patronage seeking. However, the thing was getting out of hand and even a temporary severe cutback will be a welcome improvement to what was a worsening problem that was increasingly corrupting the legislative process. It fosters the state of mind that gave us the Nebraska compromise.

Given that even those earmarks that merely divert allready appropriated money almost always go for activities that wouldn't otherwise be funded at all, you should then consider the loss of the real authorized projects that are displaced by them as a cost. The example I provided concerning the levee upgrades around New Orleans was telling.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 16 Nov, 2010 05:08 pm
@georgeob1,
We may have run out of things to talk about re earmarks. Is there a cost?
Maybe, maybe not. But everyone plays the game, with legislation being introduced funding an agency at slightly above what is asked for. That leaves room for some of the skimming.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 02:47 pm
This just in from the AP.
Incumbent Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) has been declared the winner in the Senate race there. She was a write-in candidate after being defeated in the primary by Joe Miller. He had the support of the Teaparty movement and Sarah Palin.
It is unclear whether Miller will pursue a legal challenge to the vote, centered around the spelling or legibility of the write-in votes for Murkowski.
Equally uncertain is how she will be received by the Republican leadership who supported Miller.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 02:58 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Oh, I agree that legislators of both parties will seek to find ways around the new awareness. That's just the predictable outcome of legislative venality and patronage seeking. However, the thing was getting out of hand and even a temporary severe cutback will be a welcome improvement to what was a worsening problem that was increasingly corrupting the legislative process. It fosters the state of mind that gave us the Nebraska compromise.

Except it wasn't a worsening problem george. Earmarks were down from the last GOP controlled Congress.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/06/~/media/Images/Reports/2010/sr0078/sr78_chart8.ashx?w=600&h=1036&as=1
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 03:06 pm
@realjohnboy,
Republicans are not proud of Murcowski.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 05:15 pm
Leftist liberals seek to secure their right to steal wealth others earn.

Rightist liberals seek to secure their right to retain wealth they earn.

Leftist Liberals think legitimizing the stealing of wealth others earn will lead to equalization of wealth and the elimination of hateful behavior. Actually neither will be achieved. Those in the government minority performing the redistribution of wealth will be the ones growing wealthier and more powerful, while their victims, the majority, as well as their beneficiaries will gradually grow poorer and less powerful.

Rightist Liberals think that laws that violate the Constitution must be repealed in order to rescue and renew America. Laws that violate the Constitution serve only to increase the power of government over the power of the people.

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

America began its corruption about 100 hundred years ago when its Congress, its presidents, and its courts began to redistribute wealth. It increased its rate of corruption when it deemed the Constitution of the USA a "Living Constitution" (i.e., changeable by opinion instead of by its Article V amendment process). More recently it has accelerated its rate of corruption by deeming the Constiitution an "Obsolete Constitution" (i.e., no longer valid).

SIGNATURE -- All humans are endowed by God with the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But humans forfeit those rights they deny others. Individualists want government to secure their rights. Collectivists want government to equalize wealth.

WORDS OF WISDOM FROM OUR FOUNDING FATHERS
“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men should possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.” -- Samuel Adams

“The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction.” – James Madison

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” -- Benjamin Franklin

They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety.” -- Benjamin Franklin

“Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” -- John Adams

“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.” -- George Washington

Remember, the USA is not a democracy in which a majority of the citizens governed by the federal government can dictate to the minority, or a minority of the citizens governed by the federal government can dictate to the majority. The USA is a representative, constitutional republic in which the powers of the federal government to govern us citizens and other residents are strictly limited.
talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 06:07 pm
@ican711nm,
There you go about being a lover of money and save the rich from taxes again the umpteenth time.
okie
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 06:42 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:

There you go about being a lover of money and save the rich from taxes again the umpteenth time.
Not true. The top 5% income people pay 50% of the income tax in this country, so why don't you knock off the false accusations.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 06:58 pm
@okie,
What's your point, okie? The top 5% increased their wages and benefits by over 400 times the average worker in their company. They can surely pay 400 times more in taxes, and still remain ahead. You must love federal deficits that pays for our wars, foreign aid, national security, all the government departments that take care of our safety and needs, and most everything else the feds do in our name.

So, you think it's fair for us to continue giving tax breaks to the rich, so the increasing federal deficits can be paid for by our children and grandchildren?

Do you understand anything about responsibility to our children?
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 07:05 pm
@okie,
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the surviving banks are paying out record bonuses, despite the fact that they owe their lives to government largesse


deregulation by the ruling elite in order to increase the power of finance capitalism at the expense of the working population



http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/nov2010/insi-n11.shtml

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2010 07:31 pm
@talk72000,
talk, I disagree with the conclusion; it's necessary for the right kind of regulation for any economy to benefit the masses.

How the feds try to manipulate interest rates is a fool's game that has backfired on most things they have tried. When Greenspan was seen as a "god," I challenged his low interest policies. It doesn't make sense to penalize savers, and reward spenders. That's one of the reason why speculation and greed created the Great Recession; it inflated real estate prices by selling to people who could not afford the mortgage. Low interest only exacerbated the speculators while they created the balloon that eventual had to burst. Japan went through a similar burst when they were providing 100 year mortgages, and the real estate values were increasing at unsustainable rates. They've been in their Great Recession for over two decades now, but the real miracle with Japan was their ability to remain the second most powerful economy in the world, when they have no raw materials at home - except their creative skills.


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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 09:25 am
@ican711nm,
ican jumps out of bed every night at 2, screaming, "Soros is after me!"
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 09:27 am
@realjohnboy,
Murkowski -- whose name is spelled as it sounds -- is a conservative. A couple of years back, the left was wringing its hands over her. Today, her victory is greeted with a sigh of relief because of joe miller.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 09:30 am
@parados,
The funny thing is surveys and news analysis always report that the constituents like their Congressmen when he brings pork home and gives it to them. Gee, they say, Representative X takes care of us but Representative Y is just a pork barrel rolling fool.

Depends which foot the shoe is on.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 09:30 am
@H2O MAN,
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Murcowski.


Wow! And I just said her name was easy to spell!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 09:31 am
@ican711nm,
I hope you don't delude yourself into thinking anyone reads what you post.
 

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