AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Let us separate these into different categories for clarity.

Child abuse, obviously nobody supports that.

Incest, or sexual contact between related members of a family, of course is and should be illegal when it deals with youths below the age of consent; as for adults, it's none of my business, though I find it personally distasteful.

I don't think Prostitution should be illegal at all, as long as everyone is of a legal age.



Not when they involve two grown adults in a relationship, there aren't. The examples you gave don't really reflect that.



Says who? You don't get to determine that by assertion!



the Founding Fathers most certainly didn't agree with such a position, I'm surprised to hear you say this!

Cycloptichorn

parados wrote:
okie wrote:

It seems parados has an unusual affinity or attraction to supposed "Strawmen" for some reason. Perhaps he identifies with Dorothy's fellow traveler in their quest for the Wizard of OZ. But then, we are never treated to an exact explanation as to why or how, in each case, these supposedly logically fallacious arguments are so perpetrated! But perhaps that's because opening that door may expose leftist comments here on A2K as well. Can one have their cake and eat it too? Can one include tens of million more citizens on a government entitlement and actually save money? Given leftist magic, sure, why not? Hell, why bother with a strawman when you can eliminate the middleman and just lie?

JM

P.S. I have concerns about Ryan's Roadmap too but have not quite finished reading the details. Its general message of less government and more market oriented solutions is in tune with a significant member of Americans. Overall it is a great rebuttal to the Democratic claim that the GOP is the party of NO! Actually the conservatives in the GOP could actually turn this in their favor: GOP says: Party of NO? No what? No Bailouts, No Obamacare individual mandates, no Gulf oil moratoriums, no Amnesty especially for members of the Black Panthers who threaten white voters at the polls and call for killing white babies--but I digress. I'll get back to you on the Roadmap for America.

That's great! Congratulations, I hope Mom and son are Fine.

JM

Congrats, MM/Jeff. Is this your 1st grandkid?

Looking at the reaction this brief dissection of the Declaration was given by me, it is obvious that there are people hurt by the truth.

Hey, you get off on pollution and spreading ignorance! Why bring kids into a world that you have been destroying>

Why not exterminate those bankers and industrialists? The military would call it a pre-emptive strike!

Let's start with CocaCola and PepsiCo both of whom are trying to own the world's water.

Since you have no sense of humor, how would you know?

I bet it makes you happy that armed guards are posted by American corporations around lakes in India that farmers there have used to water their fields for generations? Truth, justice and the okie version of the American way. Do onto others, then cut out.

I am certain that I said nothing of the kind. okie can't follow a thread.

No, this is my second grandchild.
And I dont even have any kids of my own (that I know of).

And your source for this claim is what?

Here is your quote or accusation against conservatives, which you said in response to James Morrison's discussion of conservative Republicans:
"AH! A statement of intolerance beyond belief! An anti-life, anti-freedom, bullying profile revealed!"
So just maybe you should learn how to follow the thread or at least remember what you have said and accused others of, pom?

So you apparently think talk of exterminating people is humorous or a joking matter? Some people have a weird concept of humor, and pom clearly reminds us of that fact.

The humour is in your silly reaction to his humour. Seriously do you really think he was recommending we kill the bankers? I would have killed a few before their cock ups, if I knew what crap they were getting us into....that ain't no joke.

Judge Napalitano, frequent Fox News contributor and Conservative legal scholar, discusses his belief below that Bush and Cheney should both have been indicted for multiple violations of the law and civil rights of Americans:





Cycloptichorn

Judge Napalitano used to be on a show called 'Brian and the Judge' that I would listen to sometimes on my way in to work. I always liked him; he seems mostly fair and balanced (although, did enjoy some pretty biased 'lead-ins' to get people to stick through breaks).

I agree with him in this instance as well. I'm trying hard to forget the Bush administration.

I have seen NAPOLITANO from time to time as well, and in general he isn't bad with his opinions, but this one about Bush is, well, just insane. Seriously, put Bush in context with other presidents using their presidential powers to protect the nation, which is their job, and then compare it with for example the "great" Democratic Party icon and hero, FDR, that rounded up tens of thousands of Japanese Americans during WWII and placed them in essentially concentration camps. Bush checked a few phone calls that had suspicious connections to possible terrorists, big deal, I personally could care less, and it is not something to punish a president for, no way, its silly. By the way, I recently visited Camp Amache in Colorado, one of those camps I referred to, and met some very nice Japanese Americans also visiting, elderly now, and one or two of them had either been in that camp or a different camp like it. We had a nice conversation, and although I felt like apologizing for the country to them, I did not, because I had no part in that policy, although I admit my parents voted for FDR. They displayed a very good attitude about it.

To conclude, the entire spin job done on Bush was a masterful bit of political backstabbing that has ever been accomplished on any president, but the truth will endure, that being that Bush loved and served his country with honor and with class, and he took it seriously enough to be minding the store instead of goofing off. At least that is my opinion, and it is the opinion of many many people that I have also talked to them about it.

but i wasn't talking about exterminating people, i mentioned bankers, industrialists and politicians

keep taking those pills son , it might help you with your affliction..Ican Ican ican post in red and blue, red and blue... I can can u...

Barack Obama and his Administration are unlawfully taking away our Property, our Liberty under the Law, our Constitutional Government, and our Capitalist Economy.

Constitution Article II. Section 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Obama and his Administration have unlawfully taken private property from those persons and from those organizations who have lawfully earned their property, and given it to those persons and organizations who have not lawfully earned it;

Amendment V. No person shall be … deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Article II. Section 1. The President … before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Article VI. The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution.

Suppose in November we elect alleged-conservative majorities to both the House and Senate that are less than two-thirds majorities. Further suppose these majorities say they want to rescue and secure our Individual Liberty under the Law, our Constitutional Government, and our Capitalist Economy.

These and other objectives can only be achieved if President Obama were first to be held accountable for his past unlawful actions. The only way to hold Obama accountable for his past unlawful actions is to impeach him. Furthermore, Barack Obama must be prevented from continuing to unlawfully implement some of his objectives by executive order, when he cannot convince Congress to pass laws that permit meeting his objectives.

The only way to hold these alleged-conservative majorities accountable for rescuing and securing our freedoms—our property, our liberty under the Law, our constitutional government, and our capitalist economy--is for us to demand they impeach Obama . While Obama can veto measures to rescue and secure our freedoms, Obama cannot veto a majority of the House voting to impeach him and put Obama on public trial for his unlawful actions. Such a trial can increase the number of voters and members of congress who support removing Obama from the presidency.