McCain's character

What racist statements? Isn't it a little off the mark to call a man racist because he used a candidate's middle name? Is Obama simply going to dump his middle name or have it legally changed? Are some seriously suggesting that it is racist to use a man's real name? (Even if they know it generates negative images in some minds?)

I still remember Democrats in special orders and before other cameras calling President Bush 41 "George Herbert HOOVER Bush". Many many here simply can't bring themselves to refer to our present president as simply President Bush. They have to attach an insulting adjective or reference to it.

Obama himself is setting an excellent example by by running as a presidential candidate able to take whatever comes at him and not running as a black man who requires special treatment. Everybody else is stuck with their real name and so is he. Personally I don't think his supporters do him any favors by making a big deal out of it being used.

McCain did what he thought was right, but I would have preferred that he stick up for Obama being able to be proud of his name instead of suggesting it wasn't right to use it.

Meanwhile, if Obama is elected what are we going to do about the initials? Can we use the "H"? BHO? Somehow it loses a lot if we shorten it to BO.

What racist statements? Isn't it a little off the mark to call a man racist because he used a candidate's middle name? Is Obama simply going to dump his middle name or have it legally changed? Are some seriously suggesting that it is racist to use a man's real name? (Even if they know it generates negative images in some minds?)

I still remember Democrats in special orders and before other cameras calling President Bush 41 "George Herbert HOOVER Bush". Many many here simply can't bring themselves to refer to our present president as simply President Bush. They have to attach an insulting adjective or reference to it.

Obama himself is setting an excellent example by by running as a presidential candidate able to take whatever comes at him and not running as a black man who requires special treatment. Everybody else is stuck with their real name and so is he. Personally I don't think his supporters do him any favors by making a big deal out of it being used.

McCain did what he thought was right, but I would have preferred that he stick up for Obama being able to be proud of his name instead of suggesting it wasn't right to use it.

Meanwhile, if Obama is elected what are we going to do about the initials? Can we use the "H"? BHO? Somehow it loses a lot if we shorten it to BO.

Foxfyre wrote:

What racist statements? Isn't it a little off the mark to call a man racist because he used a candidate's middle name? Is Obama simply going to dump his middle name or have it legally changed? Are some seriously suggesting that it is racist to use a man's real name? (Even if they know it generates negative images in some minds?)

I still remember Democrats in special orders and before other cameras calling President Bush 41 "George Herbert HOOVER Bush". Many many here simply can't bring themselves to refer to our present president as simply President Bush. They have to attach an insulting adjective or reference to it.

Obama himself is setting an excellent example by by running as a presidential candidate able to take whatever comes at him and not running as a black man who requires special treatment. Everybody else is stuck with their real name and so is he. Personally I don't think his supporters do him any favors by making a big deal out of it being used.

McCain did what he thought was right, but I would have preferred that he stick up for Obama being able to be proud of his name instead of suggesting it wasn't right to use it.

Meanwhile, if Obama is elected what are we going to do about the initials? Can we use the "H"? BHO? Somehow it loses a lot if we shorten it to BO.

Um, I'm talking about McCain referring to Vietnamese people as 'gooks.'

Cycloptichorn

What makes you think that ANYTHING that Obama could say about drugs, would counter the use of McCain's racist statements against him, in any way?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

What racist statements? Isn't it a little off the mark to call a man racist because he used a candidate's middle name? Is Obama simply going to dump his middle name or have it legally changed? Are some seriously suggesting that it is racist to use a man's real name? (Even if they know it generates negative images in some minds?)

I still remember Democrats in special orders and before other cameras calling President Bush 41 "George Herbert HOOVER Bush". Many many here simply can't bring themselves to refer to our present president as simply President Bush. They have to attach an insulting adjective or reference to it.

Obama himself is setting an excellent example by by running as a presidential candidate able to take whatever comes at him and not running as a black man who requires special treatment. Everybody else is stuck with their real name and so is he. Personally I don't think his supporters do him any favors by making a big deal out of it being used.

McCain did what he thought was right, but I would have preferred that he stick up for Obama being able to be proud of his name instead of suggesting it wasn't right to use it.

Meanwhile, if Obama is elected what are we going to do about the initials? Can we use the "H"? BHO? Somehow it loses a lot if we shorten it to BO.

Um, I'm talking about McCain referring to Vietnamese people as 'gooks.'

Cycloptichorn

Okay, I misunderstood. But you do realize he was talking about the people who tortured and maimed him for five and a half years and not the Vietnamese people as a whole? I think any reasonable people would say he has the right to call the torturers anything he wants to call them. They gave him that right.

My post, however, was in response to this:
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What makes you think that ANYTHING that Obama could say about drugs, would counter the use of McCain's racist statements against him, in any way?
QED

In this excessively PC world, nobody is allowed to be explicitly mad at anybody other than white heterosexual male Christians any more,

Yeah, after going back to check the context, I took it that you were referring to it as you have corrected it.

And you may be right. In this excessively PC world, nobody is allowed to be explicitly mad at anybody other than white heterosexual male Christians any more, and 'gooks' is not an acceptable term in any context. Perhaps if you continue to point out McCain's goof as a really big deal, however, it will give his supporters more excuse to explain why he would feel that way about it. Otherwise to keep pointing out his perspective makes him look like he is excessively playing the wounded vet card. I wonder how many will think a PC gaffe will outweigh that wounded vet card though?

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In this excessively PC world, nobody is allowed to be explicitly mad at anybody other than white heterosexual male Christians any more,

Oh.my.freakin.gawd.

You poor widdle thing you.

Foxfyre wrote:

Yeah, after going back to check the context, I took it that you were referring to it as you have corrected it.

And you may be right. In this excessively PC world, nobody is allowed to be explicitly mad at anybody other than white heterosexual male Christians any more, and 'gooks' is not an acceptable term in any context. Perhaps if you continue to point out McCain's goof as a really big deal, however, it will give his supporters more excuse to explain why he would feel that way about it. Otherwise to keep pointing out his perspective makes him look like he is excessively playing the wounded vet card. I wonder how many will think a PC gaffe will outweigh that wounded vet card though?

Terms such as 'cracker' or 'honky' are equally insulting and should be treated the same way. If Obama were to drop terms like this, it would effectively end his campaign immediately.

It's hard for me to see what the difference is in this case.

You should recall that McCain has an uphill battle this cycle; the country is pretty upset with the Republican brand, and he has done a lot to tie himself to the current avatar of failure, Bush. There are more self-identified Democrats then there are Republicans. The economy is likely to be poor and, while we would hope for progress in Iraq it doesn't look like there will be all that much between now and the election. So it doesn't take much at all, in terms of harm which could be done, to hurt McCain badly. He cannot afford to lose ANY support his cycle and hope to win.

Cycloptichorn

Thursday's data also shows John McCain continuing to lead both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in general election match-ups. McCain now leads Obama 46% to 43% and Clinton 47% to 44% (see recent daily results and summary of recent state general election polls). Daily tracking results are collected via nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. The next Presidential Tracking Poll update is scheduled for Friday at 11:00 a.m.

He had less name recognition a month ago when he was trailing Obama and Clinton in the polls? Wow. His advertising campaign must be really effective.

That's petty. How is being tired in a campaign character-related?