McCain's character

McGentrix wrote:

Better someone that holds no false pretense against his torturers during the Vietnam war then a crack head like Obama.

Hard to imagine that you could compare racist attacks with falsehoods perpetrated by a political rival. But, it's a sign that you don't have a good comeback whatsoever, which is heartening.

Cycloptichorn

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mysteryman wrote:

snood wrote:
I'd say go with that crackhead angle, McG. It has definite traction.

It was the Clinton camp that first mentioned it, not McG.

whoever. I'd say harp on it often - brilliant tactically.

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Better someone that holds no false pretense against his torturers during the Vietnam war then a crack head like Obama.

Hard to imagine that you could compare racist attacks with falsehoods perpetrated by a political rival. But, it's a sign that you don't have a good comeback whatsoever, which is heartening.

Cycloptichorn

"falsehoods perpetrated by a political rival"? You didn't follow the link huh?

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McGentrix wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Better someone that holds no false pretense against his torturers during the Vietnam war then a crack head like Obama.

Hard to imagine that you could compare racist attacks with falsehoods perpetrated by a political rival. But, it's a sign that you don't have a good comeback whatsoever, which is heartening.

Cycloptichorn

"falsehoods perpetrated by a political rival"? You didn't follow the link huh?

Uh, of course I did. It's a link to the Shaheen 'Obama is a crackhead' story. It got him fired for saying it. It was a falsehood perpetrated by the Clinton campaign.

You're all wet, as usual.

Cycloptichorn

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snood wrote:

mysteryman wrote:
snood wrote:
I'd say go with that crackhead angle, McG. It has definite traction.

It was the Clinton camp that first mentioned it, not McG.

whoever. I'd say harp on it often - brilliant tactically.

Since you didnt read the link, this part might interest you...

Quote:

"Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man," Obama wrote in his book Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance. "The highs hadn't been about that, me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory."

Elsewhere in the book Obama writes, "We were always playing on the white man's court . . . by the white man's rules . . . . If the principal, or the coach, or a teacher . . . wanted to spit in your face, he could, because he had the power and you didn't. . . . The only thing you could choose was withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage. And the final irony: should you refuse this defeat and lash out at your captors . . . they would have a name for that too. Paranoid. Militant. . . . Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it."

So, Obama admitted his drug use.

Of course, since you think he is the second coming, I can understand why you dont want to hear anything negative about him, especially from his own book.

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You do realize that Obama wrote about his drug use in his autobiography, right? This isn't some made up fact being used to slander the golden boy.

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Back to McCain...
His use of a racist term, against a VERY SMALL group of people that tortured him for 5 years, is perfectly acceptable to me.

I would rather have a man in the Oval Office that says what he thinks, instead of a man that evades, hems and haws, and tries to make nice with every person on the planet.

He has made it quite clear that his hatred is directed ONLY at the people that tortured him, not all of Vietnam or all the Vetnamese people.

If people dont understand that, then thats just to bad.

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McGentrix wrote:

You do realize that Obama wrote about his drug use in his autobiography, right? This isn't some made up fact being used to slander the golden boy.

Sure it is. The term 'crackhead' is akin to saying 'alcoholic.'

You can drink alcohol but not be an alcoholic. You can have used drugs in the past but not have been a crackhead.

It's a baseless slur, and you know it. And I encourage the McCain camp to use it, really, I do.

Another problem for McCain is that he can't fundraise worth a damn. Obama is going to raise as much in Feb. as McCain did in ALL OF 2007. By the time the general rolls around the money difference is going to be stark. And that's not going to help McCain.

Cycloptichorn

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MM and McG, you both misunderstand snood. We all know he admitted drug use -- and we don't care. Neither do most people. So many people don't care, in fact, that the tactic of repeatedly referring to it (and calling him a crackhead) backfired on Hillary and will likewise backfire on McCain.

Which is why snood wants you to keep pushing that angle.

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mysteryman wrote:

Back to McCain...
His use of a racist term, against a VERY SMALL group of people that tortured him for 5 years, is perfectly acceptable to me.

I would rather have a man in the Oval Office that says what he thinks, instead of a man that evades, hems and haws, and tries to make nice with every person on the planet.

He has made it quite clear that his hatred is directed ONLY at the people that tortured him, not all of Vietnam or all the Vetnamese people.

If people dont understand that, then thats just to bad.

You can't use a racist slur against a small group of people. That's the whole point.

The 'that's just too bad' angle is going to lose the election, and then where will he be? The vast majority of Americans do not tolerate open displays of racism for any reason.

Cycloptichorn

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BTW, McG, you do know that there is a difference between crack cocaine (rock) and powder (blow) right? (Just ask someone who has been caught in possession of crack.) So crackhead wouldn't be accurate anyway, nevermind the implied present tense.

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youthful drug use is possibly the biggest non issue i can think of. I bet all the candidates masturbated to dirty pictures too when they were kids.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

youthful drug use is possibly the biggest non issue i can think of.

I agree.
I was simply pointing out that Obama had already written about it in his book.

And since the McCain camp hasnt mentioned it, as far as I know, for snood to say they should keep pushing it is assinine.

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of course with obama it was playboy or jet. with Mccain it was probably the sears underwear catalog.

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McGentrix wrote:

You do realize that Obama wrote about his drug use in his autobiography, right? This isn't some made up fact being used to slander the golden boy.

Dude, you ain't payin' attention. YES, bring it up - talk about his drug use often and loudly to anyone who will listen. Paint Obama as an irresponsible, wild-eyed druggie, or worse if you can.

Go for it.

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snood wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
You do realize that Obama wrote about his drug use in his autobiography, right? This isn't some made up fact being used to slander the golden boy.

Dude, you ain't payin' attention. YES, bring it up - talk about his drug use often and loudly to anyone who will listen. Paint Obama as an irresponsible, wild-eyed druggie, or worse if you can.

Go for it.

Just bringing up to counter the idiotic "racist" reference snood. Now pull the panties out of the crack of your ass and get back to work.

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McGentrix wrote:

snood wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
You do realize that Obama wrote about his drug use in his autobiography, right? This isn't some made up fact being used to slander the golden boy.

Dude, you ain't payin' attention. YES, bring it up - talk about his drug use often and loudly to anyone who will listen. Paint Obama as an irresponsible, wild-eyed druggie, or worse if you can.

Go for it.

Just bringing up to counter the idiotic "racist" reference snood. Now pull the panties out of the crack of your ass and get back to work.

What makes you think that ANYTHING that Obama could say about drugs, would counter the use of McCain's racist statements against him, in any way?

It most certainly wouldn't. And won't.

Cycloptichorn

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McGentrix wrote:

snood wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
You do realize that Obama wrote about his drug use in his autobiography, right? This isn't some made up fact being used to slander the golden boy.

Dude, you ain't payin' attention. YES, bring it up - talk about his drug use often and loudly to anyone who will listen. Paint Obama as an irresponsible, wild-eyed druggie, or worse if you can.

Go for it.

Just bringing up to counter the idiotic "racist" reference snood. Now pull the panties out of the crack of your ass and get back to work.

Dude, you need to breathe the good vibes in, and let all that negative energy out. Here, take a drag on this doob. But don't tell the McCain camp!!! Laughing

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What racist statements? Isn't it a little off the mark to call a man racist because he used a candidate's middle name? Is Obama simply going to dump his middle name or have it legally changed? Are some seriously suggesting that it is racist to use a man's real name? (Even if they know it generates negative images in some minds?)

I still remember Democrats in special orders and before other cameras calling President Bush 41 "George Herbert HOOVER Bush". Many many here simply can't bring themselves to refer to our present president as simply President Bush. They have to attach an insulting adjective or reference to it.

Obama himself is setting an excellent example by by running as a presidential candidate able to take whatever comes at him and not running as a black man who requires special treatment. Everybody else is stuck with their real name and so is he. Personally I don't think his supporters do him any favors by making a big deal out of it being used.

McCain did what he thought was right, but I would have preferred that he stick up for Obama being able to be proud of his name instead of suggesting it wasn't right to use it.

Meanwhile, if Obama is elected what are we going to do about the initials? Can we use the "H"? BHO? Somehow it loses a lot if we shorten it to BO.

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