dlowan wrote:dyslexia wrote:probably just me and my paranoia but I suspect any post by Shiksa involving German anything is a simple jab at Walter.
Of course.
Foofie wrote:dagmaraka wrote:Foofie wrote:Francis wrote:Oy, the specialist of crap knowledge is on this thread now!
Tell me, foofie, what do you know about the Feuerwehr?
What's a Feuerwehr?
Since it happened in a city, I would guess that there would be building codes that a four story building would have an outside fire escape. Don't you see building fire escapes when watching a movie that takes place in NYC?
To "help" prevent a future tragedy Turkey should be let into the EU immediately, so if a tragedy like this ever happens again, there can be even more incentive (there certainly was great incentive for this tragedy) to get to the fire even more quickly, and then be even more efficient, since fellow citizens of the EU would be in danger.
foofie, it doesn't work that way. the accession dialogues took more than 10 years for the 10 countries admitted in 2005. countries being admitted must synchronize their legislation and practice with the EU - we're talking thousands upon thousands of legislative measures, which cannot be done overnight, or even over a year....
....besides, even if Turkey was admitted tomorrow, that will do absolutely nothing when it comes to people's attitudes and prejudices. Guardian claims that police fear that the fire was started deliberately by a group of neo-Nazi youth... that will unfortunately not change.
Are you inferring then that the
average German citizen loves the Turkish guest workers, and might lament that Turkey cannot be let into the EU posthaste?
Irrelevant.
You appear to be implying that German firefighters would not respond to a fire involving Turkish folk as fast as to a fire involving Germans, which is a different level of accusation.
It would be interesting to see if you have any evidence for such a serious assertion.
No. I am not "implying that German firefighters would not respond to a fire involving Turkish folk as fast as to a fire involving Germans." I was thinking that German firefighters
would (as opposed to would not) respond to a fire with more
incentive if a fire involved Turkish folk, if the Turkish folk were then part of the "EU family." They
would still be ethnic Turks, but suddenly the motivation might go "above and beyond," so to speak,
because these same Turkish folk are now part of the EU family. Sort of like when a mother gets superhuman strength to lift a car off of
her child that is pinned under a car. Normally, women cannot lift a car, and no one faults them for that.
My opinion is not that Germans are prejudiced against Turks, but possibly many are more concerned about fellow EU citizens, since when it comes to family, "blood is thicker than water," and EU members are blood relatives in the EU family.
Now, the above is my opinion, and conjecture based on that opinion. If you want to think I am implying something else, you are wrong.
In the way of analogy, wouldn't you believe there are
some people in the Commonwealth that are more concerned about the welfare and safety of other citizens of Commonwealth nations, than perhaps a citizen from anywhere else?
