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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2008 09:34 am
Yeah, I loved "talk me down from this tree..." Laughing


Interesting article from Allegra Goodman on how Hawaii has a lot to do with who Obama is:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=37a6334e-8c5c-46c6-ac30-1bfdcdce758a

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Honolulu is no utopia; its socioeconomic climate is far from Edenic. However, Honolulu's complexity and diversity are great gifts for a reflective future leader. To grow up in Hawaii is to see the United States from the inside and the outside. The inside view comes from pride in statehood and military tradition. Long before September 11, residents of Hawaii knew what foreign attack was like and valued American protection--Pearl Harbor remains a vital piece of Hawaiian history. The outside view of the United States comes from geographic distance. The Hawaiian islands stand as tiny meeting points for immigrants from Japan, China, Korea, the Philippines, and the far reaches of Polynesia. Hawaii is an outpost among many nations, not a state connected by highways to other states. As a meeting place, the islands are cosmopolitan. As an isolated island chain, the islands are also parochial. The haves in Hawaii travel and see the world. The have-nots, many of them native Hawaiians, lack the means to get away. To grow up in Hawaii is to envision the future of a multiracial society, and also to view up close the disappointment of those left behind.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2008 09:49 am
In her comments on the Kodak debate, Arianna Huffington refers to this post from May 28th, 2007 that contains a lot of info about how Hillary did not read the full NIE before voting to authorize the Iraq war, plus other info about Hillary and Iraq:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/her-way-hillary_b_49733.html
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 07:48 am
"Why Republicans Like Obama"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/01/AR2008020102663.html
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:02 pm
"Mom, Obama, and Me"

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-oe-munoz2feb02,0,1138667.story

Good article, with a few interesting elements. (Name recognition vs. name recognition; generational aspect of Obama support; Latino support.)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:03 pm
Giuliani had a weird ad at the end there called "Not endorsed." It was about all the liberal papers who endorsed McCain instead.

McCain can maybe do something similar with all the far-right weirdos who are endorsing Romney lately -- Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, Rick Santorum, etc.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:05 pm
Mostly a pure plonk. Interesting info about Obama in CA.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-hot-on-hillarys-he_b_84577.html
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:06 pm
Soz, the feeling at the Obama rally I went to yesterday was electric. I shouted myself hoarse and had a tough time finishing work that day!

Over on the polls thread Nimh has some nice ones showing Edwards supporters coming our way!

FIRED UP

READY TO GO!!!

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:12 pm
Oh, you went to a rally!! That's awesome.

Tell me all about it!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:29 pm
Want to grab this in case it comes up -- Hillary's "simplistic and misleading" description of the Levin measure at the last debate:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/us/politics/02check.html
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:31 pm
sozobe wrote:
Oh, you went to a rally!! That's awesome.

Tell me all about it!


Tell ya? Hell, I'll do better then that!


It was on the UC Berkeley campus (where I work) and there were about 500 people in attendance. This pic is actually before it got at all crowded. Mostly college students though there were some community activists and organizers present and a large contingent of our regular anti-war and anti-torture protesters as well.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/2237306056_39f1ff6618_o.jpg

The event started off with musical entertainment by some of the members of Blackalicious who had written several songs just for the occasion. One of the best and most progressive rap groups out there, Blackalicious has a very positive message so I wasn't surprised to see that they are strong Obama supporters! This is one of many rallies they have appeared at.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2237306128_c2c25e0c76_o.jpg

They got the crowd pretty fired up. Speaking at the event were some local Obama organizers, Dean Chris Edley from Boalt Hall law school (where I work) who had a great speech about how he used to teach Obama at Harvard law, and said he was one of the most intelligent people that he had ever met. Dean Edley's wife is a Senior Advisor to Hillary, and he said he's been sleeping on the couch lately. Smile The tall fellow behind him was the MC of the event and may I say that he has a future as an announcer, quite gifted and great at exciting the crowd

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2173/2237306086_1fd9c1d5d9_o.jpg

We also heard some local writers and activists speak, including Craig from Craigslist. That guy was actually really good, b/c it turns out that he's been a Republican for most of his life. He gave a pretty passionate speech about how for the first time in a long time, he thought he could trust and believe in a politician. He said it made him feel better about himself as a person, that he could have this kind of hope in gov't again. Inspiring!

There were some guys from a local advertising agency holding up big Obama signs. They did all sorts of tricks with them and it was actually quite entertaining. I spoke with them, and they had come out on their day off to support Obama, working for free.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2175/2236524825_72bc8b0cc6_o.jpg

The event only lasted about an hour, and wasn't anywhere near the size of most of the rallies I've seen and read about. But it was important to us. I've never done this before. Never shouted a politicians' name till my throat hurt, or put in time and effort to see him elected. That's what Obama means to me - finding a better part of myself.

Cheers

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:35 pm
Thanks, Cycloptichorn!

Great pics and descriptions.

Very Berkeley crowd -- I've been to that square I think. (I have family in Berkeley.)
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Swimpy
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 12:41 pm
Interesting, Cyclopticorn! I would have loved to be there.

Did anyone listen to Thursday's Talk of the Nation on NPR? It was broadcast from Morgan State University and was a discussion of the politics of race. You can listen to it here:

http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=5&prgDate=01-31-2008&view=storyview

An interesting comment was made by several participants that African-Americans are hesitant to be too outspoken in there support of Obama because they are afraid he will be labeled the "black candidate" and will scare white folks away from his campaign.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 01:39 pm
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BOISE, Idaho - This is a geographically big state. But despite its rapid growth in recent years, there are just 1.5 million people (and a lot fewer Democrats).

Still, Sen. Barack Obama brought his presidential campaign here Saturday morning, drawing what his campaign said was about 15,000 to the Taco Bell Arena on the campus of Boise State University.

That's about three times as many people who participated in the state's Democratic caucuses in 2004, when Idaho was not among early and important contests.


http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/obama_draws_some_15000_in_red.html
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 01:40 pm
Amy Goodman or Michael Savage? Who better, of the two, represents this thead?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 08:41 am
Very, very good Op-Ed from Frank Rich:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/opinion/03rich.html

A swath from the middle though I recommend the whole thing:

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 08:47 am
One of the pleasures for me when the NY Times reversed its pay for columnists' columns policy has been to be able to read Frank Rich again.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 04:06 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-hansen/i-am-womanmisogyny-am_b_84555.html

I Am Woman...Misogyny, Ambivalence and the Clinton Campaign
Posted February 1, 2008 | 08:18 PM (EST)
Linda Hansen


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Hillary tells us, in no uncertain terms, she's smart enough and tough enough to serve as our first female president. From Day One. And she's absolutely right. Nobody knows the issues any better and nobody seeking the nomination, on either side, is quicker with a sharp comeback or an equally sharp elbow to the ribs. Like the low blow or not, "This is politics, not bean bag..." as the HRC team likes to say.

Point taken. But she can't have it both ways and here's where Clinton campaign ambivalence kicks in. The gender game is in play, and HRC won't pick a side.



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We have loathsome, mindless misogyny on one side of the bell curve and gender ambivalence on the far side. We have woman-bashing "Get thee to the kitchen, wench!" on the one hand and "I'm as tough as you are, buster, get out of my way!" coupled with "I'm vulerable, too--and that ain't no way to treat a lady!" on the other. Both are destructive and dishonest. Both are bad for the process and bad for the country. Intellect, strength, character and capability know no gender. There's no logical or practical reason a woman can't run this nation as well as any man. Better than most.

That said, a strong, smart woman who's well-qualified to serve as president doesn't need to play the game on both sides of Gender Street. If she does, she gets the disrespect she's got coming, adds momentum to the misogynist movement. The Clinton campaign cannot control the knuckle-dragging misogynist. What they can control is an unfortunate pattern of ambivalent behavior that feeds the beast-- and take their campaign setbacks on the chin, like the other guy has always had to do.

In the Promised Land of enlightenment and gender parity, what's good for the goose is, after all, good for the gander.

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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 09:30 am
Great pictures and description, Cyclo!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 09:51 am
Matthew Yglesias:

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Here's an interesting tidbit from Mark Penn's latest strategy memo: "No one believes that if Hillary had been president she would have started the war."

I don't have an incredibly firm view on the counterfactual here. After all, it's a bit hard to specify a scenario in which Hillary Clinton would have been president in the spring of 2003. But when Bush did start the war, Hillary surely could have said that despite her vote to authorize him to start a war she believed he was making a mistake in doing so. She didn't do that. She didn't say that in March of 2003, and she didn't say it in April of 2003 and she didn't say it in May of 2003. To the best of my knowledge, she didn't start saying anything of the sort until years after the invasion had happened. So I hardly think it's wildly unreasonable to take her statements, actions, and silences at face value and say she thought Bush was more-or-less doing what she would have done in his position.

Or maybe not. I lot of people I know are convinced that Hillary did, in fact, all along believe that Bush was committing a huge strategic blunder but that she pretended not to believe that because she thought it was important to her presidential ambitions. I don't think I really buy that. Among other things, I don't think Clinton would have thought that backing a huge strategic blunder would help her presidential ambitions. Insofar as she thought the war was politically savvy, that would almost certainly have been related to a view that the war wasn't a huge substantive error. But either way, if Mark Penn thinks his candidate was only pretending to approve of Bush's conduct he ought to say so plainly. Clearly, she wasn't a major critic of his conduct at the time.


http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/nobody.php

I recommend the "interesting tidbit," too. I think if (IF) Hillary loses this, there will be a fair amount of blame to go around but a lot of it will (rightfully) affix itself to Mark Penn.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 01:05 pm
Profile of Obama in Vanity Fair (I haven't read it yet):

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803?printable=true&currentPage=all
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