It's Gonna Get Ugly For Barack and Hillary

edgarblythe wrote:

And, yet, the Republicans still had to rig the vote in enough precincts to win the last two elections. The only people who buy into the meat machine politics of Republicans are other Republicans and the uninformed, easily swayed few.

And Hillary had to rig the vote in NH to get the victory.
How else can you explain the vast difference between the pre-election polls and the actual results?

revel wrote:

No matter his views; he still signed the civil rights law and that is what counted in the end.

So his views don't count? Perhaps especially if they aren't what you would like to remember him for in the history books, have I got that right? If it doesn't fit the template, ignore it, right?

I barely remember Lyndon Johnson so I have no beef of how he should be remembered.

Meanwhile, every credible indicator (and there are so very many of them) suggests that high seas and okie and finn will soon need my shoulder to cry upon. I want you three to know that it will be available. Compassion demands no less.

dyslexia's hero, Barry Goldwater

mysteryman wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

And, yet, the Republicans still had to rig the vote in enough precincts to win the last two elections. The only people who buy into the meat machine politics of Republicans are other Republicans and the uninformed, easily swayed few.

And Hillary had to rig the vote in NH to get the victory.
How else can you explain the vast difference between the pre-election polls and the actual results?

Are you kidding? You mean you don't know? Pay attention.

So Okie, burned down any black churches lately?

The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror" against Republican leaders both black and white.

dyslexia wrote:

So Okie, burned down any black churches lately?

Dys - you're (a) an educated man, and (b) you know the history of the Southern states, so therefore you must also know (c), that the church-burners were ALL OF THEM Democrats, and NOT Republicans. Okie has already said he's a Republican so leave him out of your harassment tactics.

Those who didn't know that much basic history can read it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

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The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror" against Republican leaders both black and white.

Roxxxanne wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

And, yet, the Republicans still had to rig the vote in enough precincts to win the last two elections. The only people who buy into the meat machine politics of Republicans are other Republicans and the uninformed, easily swayed few.

And Hillary had to rig the vote in NH to get the victory.
How else can you explain the vast difference between the pre-election polls and the actual results?

Are you kidding? You mean you don't know? Pay attention.

All of the pre vote polls had Obama winning by anywhere between 6 and 12 percent.
Yet Hillary won the vote.

Allof the polls had Kerry beating Bush,and when that didnt happen you were one of the first ones to cry foul.
You accused Bush of all kinds of illegal actions to win, and none of them were true.
So, there had to be some kind of illegal actions from Hillary's campaign for them to win despite all of the polls.
Unless you are willing to admit that the polls could have been wrong, but then you have to admit that the polls that showed Bush losing in both 2000 and 2004 were also wrong.

Are you willing to do that?

I dont think you are.

dyslexia wrote:

So Okie, burned down any black churches lately?

Dys - you're (a) an educated man, and (b) you know the history of the Southern states, so therefore you must also know (c), that the church-burners were ALL OF THEM Democrats, and NOT Republicans. Okie has already said he's a Republican so leave him out of your harassment tactics.

Those who didn't know that much basic history can read it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

Quote:

The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror" against Republican leaders both black and white.

High Seas wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

So Okie, burned down any black churches lately?

Dys - you're (a) an educated man, and (b) you know the history of the Southern states, so therefore you must also know (c), that the church-burners were ALL OF THEM Democrats, and NOT Republicans. Okie has already said he's a Republican so leave him out of your harassment tactics.

Those who didn't know that much basic history can read it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

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The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror" against Republican leaders both black and white.

Helen, are you telling me that my comments (harassment) are stupid? well, yes they are, they are every bit as stupid as okie's comments from his first post here on a2k on. His blanket of "democrats/liberals are ****" consistentently demonstrate his stupidity. As for you Helen, you also know that "dixie-crats" (going back to the days of HST) have little or nothing to do with the democratic party any more than the party of GWB is related to the party of Abe Lincoln so don't try to spin that **** with me. Political bigotry is far more a modern republican agenda than it is a democratic one even though democrats have done little to justify minority support. Now Helen if you want to talk about history such as the carpet-baggers, KKK, Jim Crow etc and political parties lets do that, I would be delighted to pursue such a topic.

dyslexia wrote:

High Seas wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

So Okie, burned down any black churches lately?

Dys - you're (a) an educated man, and (b) you know the history of the Southern states, so therefore you must also know (c), that the church-burners were ALL OF THEM Democrats, and NOT Republicans. Okie has already said he's a Republican so leave him out of your harassment tactics.

Those who didn't know that much basic history can read it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

Quote:

The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror" against Republican leaders both black and white.

Helen, are you telling me that my comments (harassment) are stupid? well, yes they are, they are every bit as stupid as okie's comments from his first post here on a2k on. His blanket of "democrats/liberals are ****" consistentently demonstrate his stupidity. As for you Helen, you also know that "dixie-crats" (going back to the days of HST) have little or nothing to do with the democratic party any more than the party of GWB is related to the party of Abe Lincoln so don't try to spin that **** with me. Political bigotry is far more a modern republican agenda than it is a democratic one even though democrats have done little to justify minority support. Now Helen if you want to talk about history such as the carpet-baggers, KKK, Jim Crow etc and political parties lets do that, I would be delighted to pursue such a topic.

Dys - never once in my life have I called you, or any of your posts, "stupid", so leave me out of that part. As to my wish to talk about history: I already said, loud and clear in the post you're quoting, that you know the history - but then, so do I - and if you wish to discuss it with me you're more than welcome.

Perhaps we should be doing that on a thread other than this one, started by Snood, however, as he's on record as supporting an immediate stop to any further research on anthropology (on another thread) and, from his opening sentence here, also seems to be supporting an immediate stop to any investigation of history.

Your call, Dys.

Blacks "are inferior to the whites in the endowments of both of body and mind."

--Thomas Jefferson, 1787
Co-founder of the Democratic Party (along with Andrew Jackson)
President, 1801-09

"I hold that the present state of civilization, where two races of different origin, and distinguished by color, and other physical differences, as well as intellectual, are brought together, the relation now existing in the slaveholding states between the two, is, instead of an evil, a good--a positive good."


--Sen. John C. Calhoun (D., S.C.), 1837
Vice President, 1825-32
His statue stands in the U.S. Capitol.

f blacks were given the right to vote, that would "place every splay-footed, bandy-shanked, hump-backed, thick-lipped, flat-nosed, woolly-headed, ebon-colored Negro in the country upon an equality with the poor white man."


--Rep. Andrew Johnson, (D., Tenn.), 1844
President, 1865-69

"Resolved, That the Democratic Party will resist all attempts at renewing, in Congress or out of it, the agitation of the slavery question, under whatever shape or color the attempt may be made."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1852

Blacks are "a subordinate and inferior class of beings who had been subjugated by the dominant race."


--Chief Justice Roger Taney, Dred Scott v. Sandford, 1856
Appointed Attorney General by Andrew Jackson in 1831
Appointed Secretary of the Treasury by Andrew Jackson in 1833
Appointed to the Supreme Court by Andrew Jackson in 1836

"Resolved, That claiming fellowship with, and desiring the co-operation of all who regard the preservation of the Union under the Constitution as the paramount issue--and repudiating all sectional parties and platforms concerning domestic slavery, which seek to embroil the States and incite to treason and armed resistance to law in the Territories; and whose avowed purposes, if consummated, must end in civil war and disunion, the American Democracy recognize and adopt the principles contained in the organic laws establishing the Territories of Kansas and Nebraska as embodying the only sound and safe solution of the 'slavery question' upon which the great national idea of the people of this whole country can repose in its determined conservatism of the Union--NON-INTERFERENCE BY CONGRESS WITH SLAVERY IN STATE AND TERRITORY, OR IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA" (emphasis in original).


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1856

"I hold that a Negro is not and never ought to be a citizen of the United States. I hold that this government was made on the white basis; made by the white men, for the benefit of white men and their posterity forever, and should be administered by white men and none others."


--Sen. Stephen A. Douglas (D., Ill.), 1858
Presidential nominee of the Democratic Party, 1860

"Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1860

"The Almighty has fixed the distinction of the races; the Almighty has made the black man inferior, and, sir, by no legislation, by no military power, can you wipe out this distinction."


--Rep. Fernando Wood (D., N.Y.), 1865
Mayor of New York City, 1855-58, 1860-62

"My fellow citizens, I have said that the contest before us was one for the restoration of our government; it is also one for the restoration of our race. It is to prevent the people of our race from being exiled from their homes--exiled from the government which they formed and created for themselves and for their children, and to prevent them from being driven out of the country or trodden under foot by an inferior and barbarous race."


--Francis P. Blair Jr., accepting the Democratic nomination for Vice President, 1868
Democratic Senator from Missouri, 1869-72
His statue stands in the U.S. Capitol.

"Instead of restoring the Union, it [the Republican Party] has, so far as in its power, dissolved it, and subjected ten states, in time of profound peace, to military despotism and Negro supremacy."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1868

"While the tendency of the white race is upward, the tendency of the colored race is downward."


--Sen. Thomas Hendricks (D., Ind.), 1869
Democratic nominee for Vice President, 1876
Vice President, 1885

"We, the delegates of the Democratic party of the United States . . . demand such modification of the treaty with the Chinese Empire, or such legislation within constitutional limitations, as shall prevent further importation or immigration of the Mongolian race."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1876

"No more Chinese immigration, except for travel, education, and foreign commerce, and that even carefully guarded."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1880

"American civilization demands that against the immigration or importation of Mongolians to these shores our gates be closed."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1884

"We favor the continuance and strict enforcement of the Chinese exclusion law, and its application to the same classes of all Asiatic races."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1900

"The repeal of the fifteenth amendment, one of the greatest blunders and therefore one of the greatest crimes in political history, is a consummation to be devoutly wished for."


--Rep. John Sharpe Williams (D., Miss.), 1903
House Minority Leader, 1903-08

"Republicanism means Negro equality, while the Democratic Party means that the white man is supreme. That is why we Southerners are all Democrats."


--Sen. Ben Tillman (D., S.C.), 1906
Chairman, Committee on Naval Affairs, 1913-19

"We are opposed to the admission of Asiatic immigrants who can not be amalgamated with our population, or whose presence among us would raise a race issue and involve us in diplomatic controversies with Oriental powers."


--Platform of the Democratic Party, 1908

"I am opposed to the practice of having colored policemen in the District [of Columbia]. It is a source of danger by constantly engendering racial friction, and is offensive to thousands of Southern white people who make their homes here."


--Sen. Hoke Smith (D., Ga.), 1912
Appointed Secretary of the Interior by Grover Cleveland in 1893

"The South is serious with regard to its attitude to the Negro in politics. The South understands this subject, and its policy is unalterable and uncompromising. We desire no concessions. We seek no sops. We grasp no shadows on this subject. We take no risks. We abhor a Northern policy of catering to the Negro in politics just as we abhor a Northern policy of social equality."


--Josephus Daniels, editor, Raleigh News & Observer, 1912
Appointed Secretary of the Navy by Woodrow Wilson in 1913
Appointed Ambassador to Mexico by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933
USS Josephus Daniels named for him by the Johnson Administration in 1965

"The Negro as a race, in all the ages of the world, has never shown sustained power of self-development. He is not endowed with the creative faculty. . . . He has never created for himself any civilization. . . . He has never had any civilization except that which has been inculcated by a superior race. And it is a lamentable fact that his civilization lasts only so long as he is in the hands of the white man who inculcates it. When left to himself he has universally gone back to the barbarism of the jungle."


--Sen. James Vardaman (D., Miss.), 1914
Chairman, Committee on Natural Resources, 1913-19

"This is a white man's country, and will always remain a white man's country."


--Rep. James F. Byrnes (D., S.C.), 1919
Appointed to the Supreme Court by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1941
Appointed Secretary of State by Harry S. Truman in 1945

"Slavery among the whites was an improvement over independence in Africa. The very progress that the blacks have made, when--and only when--brought into contact with the whites, ought to be a sufficient argument in support of white supremacy--it ought to be sufficient to convince even the blacks themselves."


--William Jennings Bryan, 1923
Presidential nominee of the Democratic Party, 1896, 1900 and 1908
Appointed Secretary of State by Woodrow Wilson in 1913
His statue stands in the U.S. Capitol.

"Anyone who has traveled to the Far East knows that the mingling of Asiatic blood with European or American blood produces, in nine cases out of ten, the most unfortunate results. . . . The argument works both ways. I know a great many cultivated, highly educated and delightful Japanese. They have all told me that they would feel the same repugnance and objection to have thousands of Americans settle in Japan and intermarry with the Japanese as I would feel in having large numbers of Japanese coming over here and intermarry with the American population. In this question, then, of Japanese exclusion from the United States it is necessary only to advance the true reason--the undesirability of mixing the blood of the two peoples. . . . The Japanese people and the American people are both opposed to intermarriage of the two races--there can be no quarrel there."


--Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1925
President, 1933-45

"This passport which you have given me is a symbol to me of the passport which you have given me before. I do not feel that it would be out of place to state to you here on this occasion that I know that without the support of the members of this organization I would not have been called, even by my enemies, the 'Junior Senator from Alabama.' "


--Hugo Black, accepting a life membership in the Ku Klux Klan upon his election to the U.S. Senate as a Democrat from Alabama, 1926
Appointed to the Supreme Court by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1937

"Mr. President, the crime of lynching . . . is not of sufficient importance to justify this legislation."


--Sen. Claude Pepper (D., Fla.), 1938
Spoken while engaged in a six-hour speech against the antilynching bill

"I am a former Kleagle [recruiter] of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County. . . . The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state in the union."


--Robert C. Byrd, 1946
Democratic Senator from West Virginia, 1959-present
Senate Majority Leader, 1977-80 and 1987-88
Senate President Pro Tempore, 1989-95, 2001-03, 2007-present
His portrait stands in the U.S. Capitol.

President Truman's civil rights program "is a farce and a sham--an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I have voted against the so-called poll tax repeal bill. . .. I have voted against the so-called anti-lynching bill."


--Rep. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1948
U.S. Senator, 1949-61
Senate Majority Leader, 1955-61
President, 1963-69

"There is no warrant for the curious notion that Christianity favors the involuntary commingling of the races in social institutions. Although He knew both Jews and Samaritans and the relations existing between them, Christ did not advocate that courts or legislative bodies should compel them to mix socially against their will."


--Sen. Sam Ervin (D., N.C.), 1955
Chairman, Committee on Government Operations, 1971-75

"The decline and fall of the Roman empire came after years of intermarriage with other races. Spain was toppled as a world power as a result of the amalgamation of the races. . . . Certainly history shows that nations composed of a mongrel race lose their strength and become weak, lazy and indifferent."


--Herman E. Talmadge, 1955
Democratic Senator from Georgia, 1957-81
Chairman, Committee on Agriculture, 1971-81

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again."


--Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1957

"I have never seen very many white people who felt they were being imposed upon or being subjected to any second-class citizenship if they were directed to a waiting room or to any other public facility to wait or to eat with other white people. Only the Negroes, of all the races which are in this land, publicly proclaim they are being mistreated, imposed upon, and declared second-class citizens because they must go to public facilities with members of their own race."


--Sen. Richard B. Russell Jr. (D., Ga.), 1961
The Russell Senate Office Building is named for him.

"I did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems of Negroes."


--Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, 1961
Kennedy later authorized wiretapping the phones and bugging the hotel rooms of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

"I'm not going to use the federal government's authority deliberately to circumvent the natural inclination of people to live in ethnically homogeneous neighborhoods. . . . I have nothing against a community that's made up of people who are Polish or Czechoslovakian or French-Canadian or blacks who are trying to maintain the ethnic purity of their neighborhoods."


--Jimmy Carter, 1976
President, 1977-81
Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, 2002

"The Confederate Memorial has had a special place in my life for many years. . . . There were many, many times that I found myself drawn to this deeply inspiring memorial, to contemplate the sacrifices of others, several of whom were my ancestors, whose enormous suffering and collective gallantry are to this day still misunderstood by most Americans."


--James Webb, 1990
Now a Democratic Senator from Virginia

"Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea conferences and you'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."


--Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D., S.C.) 1993
Chairman, Commerce Committee, 1987-95 and 2001-03
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 1984

"I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation."


--Sen. Christopher Dodd (D., Conn.), 2004
Chairman, Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008

"You cannot go into a Dunkin' Donuts or a 7-Eleven unless you have a slight Indian accent."


"My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the eighth largest black population in the country. My state is anything [but] a Northeastern liberal state."


"I mean, you got the first mainstream African American [Barack Obama] who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy."


"There's less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with."
Sen. Joseph Biden Jr., (D., Del.), 2006-07
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary, 1987-95
Chairman, Committee on Foreign Relations
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008

Grotesque, Cycl - and I only say "grotesque" about your post because I'm polite and don't want to accuse you of lying.

But you are, at the very least, misrepresenting the truth - though the truth be well known to you; think about it.

Cycl - sure, go ahead, compile away...... Republicans have a clear conscience, your friends in the Dem party obviously don't

What do you mean when you say 'clear conscience?'