kate4christ03 wrote:
there are no contradictions in the bible.
And denial shall end the debate...
Quote: that wasn't my quote i was responding to it. I don't believe the gospels are imperfect or biased.
I didn't quote you. I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to who wrote it.
Quote: They claim that title. 2tim 3:16.....and like i said there are no contrasts, no contradictions in the telling of Christs life. Matthew never states that ONLY one woman came to the tomb(that would make john a contradiction)
So, if my friend writes a note and signs my name and the world believes I wrote it, then its true? Just because the book says it was god breathed doesn't mean it is.
A few contradictions from the bible to get you started....
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
- which one is he... or are there two?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli
- which one was Joseph's father?
GEN 1:25-26 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
GEN 2:18-19 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof
- so did beasts or man come first?
KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem
- four thousand or forty thousand?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
- god tells us to get wisdom so he can cut us down for it?
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
- so do we kill our kids when our father sins, or should we listen to Deuteronomy and not?
Not to mention how Leviticus and Deuteronomy mention how insects have four feet, rabbits chew their cud, and bats are birds. Genesis talks about how god created snakes to eateth dust all the days of their lives. Gen1 has a completely different order of creation than Gen2.
There are as many as 1750 literary contradictions in the bible (depending on the level of contradiction and the version of the bible) Some are blatantly contradictory and can't be ignored, like the order of creation in Genesis. Others could be debated like this one:
Num.12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth."
Num.31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."
Moses could be meek in chapter 12, then just got ticked off in chapter 31, but I can't imagine that the meekest man on earth suddenly rose up and tell everyone to commit mass murder?
Ps.92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."
Isa.57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
- so should we be righteous or not?
Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
- I would think that Jesus' last words would be pretty important, yet three of the gospels have entirely different literary accounts.
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Isreal and Judah.
I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Isreal, and provoked David to number Israel
- could they not tell the difference between god and satan? That's another pretty important one.
Exod. 24:9,10; Amos 9:1; Gen. 26:2; and John 14:9
We CAN see god:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (Ex. 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (Ex. 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Gen. 32:30)
We CAN'T see god
"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (Ex. 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1 Tim. 6:16)
- can he be seen or not?
The vengeful god:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (Jer. 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."
The merciful god:
"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (James 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (Ps. 145:9)
"God is love." (1 John 4:16)
- which one is it?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (Gen 22:1)
"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James 1:13)
- Right now I'm tempted to get some chinese food for lunch.
The list continues ad regurgitatum.
Kate4Christ, if you still want to wear those blinders, that's fine, but even Christian websites like this one
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/b08.html fully admit that they exist and give you step by step instructions on how to use them as a sales tactic to convert people to christianity.
