Some Hell/Death/Sin questions

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Thanks.

Probably because I thought I had made myself clear and some chose to look beyond that and try to make it much more black and white. Since scripture does not say specifically that God sent the bears.... I leave it open because I am not the authority to determine whether God was directly involved or not.

Ah I see - just as an observation then - that wasn't clear because what you said was 'your view doesn't matter, and neither does mine. The bible doesn't state such" (or something very close - that's not a direct quote).

I do think it's an unusual thing to hold to (not forming a view on the subject that is), but that is just my perspective.

As for trying to make things black & white - the bible certainly doesn't allow for that on a lot of topics. The nature of God (as described in the bible) is certainly debatable.

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

Too bad that the doctrine of the bible is ignored by those who try to put today's literal meaning to everything in the bible. What other works do you see this happening in?

The 2nd amendment is one example isn't it Intrepid?

Don't ask me. I am not American and am not really concerned with your amendments. Particularly where they pertain to everybody carrying guns.

1. Does the historical evidence support the conclusion that the Second Amendment guarantees the right of individuals to possess firearms?
2. If the Second Amendment does create an individual right, how broad is the right? Does it include the right to possess arms that would be useful to a militia today--hand grenades, rocket launchers, etc.? Or does it create only a right to possess arms that would have been used by a militia in 1791--muskets? Or is the right answer somewhere between these extremes?
3. The Second Amendment speaks of the right to bear arms. Does this suggest, for example, that there is no right to possess weapons that could not be carried, such as cannons?
4. If the underlying concern that inspired the Second Amendment--fear of an abusive federal government oppressing states and their citizens--no longer exists, should that affect how we interpret the Amendment?
5. What is the argument for choosing what provisions of the Bill of Rights we will give full effect?
6. If the test for whether a provision of the Bill of Rights is incorporated into the 14th Amendment is whether the right in question is "fundamental to the American scheme of justice" what conclusion should we come to with respect to the right to keep and bear arms?
7. Which of the following regulations of firearms is constitutional?: (1) an age restriction, (2) a four-day waiting period for purchase of a firearm, (3) a ban on the carrying of concealed weapons.

Anything Intrepid?

maporsche wrote:

Anything Intrepid?

1 - Not pertinent to the thread

2 - What does a 3 year old post have to do with today?

Intrepid wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

BTW, the bible does not TELL me to do anything. Perhaps you should ponder that and look outside the little box than you have fashioned.

No, it says that if you don't do these things you'll burn in hell for all eternity.

That's not TELLing you to do anything right?

It would probably be best to end this discussion now since you prefer to argue every point and you do not have any legitimate understanding of the bible. Or even try to understand the context in what people try to explain to you.

I spent 13 years reading the bible and traveling to South America on mission trips and converting people to Christianity. I think my understanding is quite legitimate......your understanding I question.

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

BTW, the bible does not TELL me to do anything. Perhaps you should ponder that and look outside the little box than you have fashioned.

No, it says that if you don't do these things you'll burn in hell for all eternity.

That's not TELLing you to do anything right?

It would probably be best to end this discussion now since you prefer to argue every point and you do not have any legitimate understanding of the bible. Or even try to understand the context in what people try to explain to you.

I spent 13 years reading the bible and traveling to South America on mission trips and converting people to Christianity. I think my understanding is quite legitimate......your understanding I question.

Surely you jest. You read the bible and studied it; and you never figured out that the soul is not immortal - and that there is no such thing as a burning hell?

Or did you just read what someone else wrote about the bible?

I was just supplying some information then. I am not really concerned about your amendments now and neither was I then. I didn't realize that someone had to be passionate about something to post about it.

I might add that it is better to be backed into a corner than go around in circles as is your forte.