farmerman wrote:OCCOM BILLQuote:John Edwards made a career out of making innocent people pay for other innocent people's tragedy. One need not be a saint to recognize there is nothing noble in that. There is, in fact, ample cause for scorn.
This is validation that the conservos are scared to death of Edwards. O Bills statement is one that is vaccus and terror filled (He sounds like Limbaugh trying to make a point and it just blows up in his face).
Utter nonsense, Farmerdude. Obama... and even Clinton may get my vote before some of the Republicans in the field. I haven't heard Limbaugh's voice in over a decade, and never did so intentionally. I do my own homework and I've presented the facts as I see them. Notice I referenced the Huffington Post and CNN: Do either sound like Limbaugh clones to you?[/quote]
farmerman wrote:OB's understandings are simplistic and spoon-fed by newsclips. An attorney IS and dvocate for his client and when he takes on plaintiffs suits, its as if you were to take your own savings and investing it to an outcome that is only dictated by your skills. To declare that "scumbag" shows a complete nonunderstanding of professions. Many of professional people have codes of ethics within which they opearate. Edwards did everything he could in a skillful and honorable fashion. Unlike our present (ugh) occupant of the WHite House.
This is as insulting as it is false. If
you had bothered to research Edwards' strategy for the 20+ Law suits against baby Doctors; you would have, and still could, see that I wrote the truth. 20+ innocent doctors accused of callous disregard for human life, humiliated, and forced to pay ridiculous amounts of money... and for what? Oh yeah; nothing. Edwards BS was never, ever good enough for the medical community to come to a consensus... and has since been demonstrated to be utter nonsense. These are the simple FACTS, Farmerman. You owe me an apology.
FreeDuck wrote:I don't have any comment about Edwards' arguing style as I have nothing to compare it to, but with regard to the Sta-rite case, Wikipedia has this to say:
Quote:The biggest case of his legal career was a 1997 product liability lawsuit against Sta-Rite, the manufacturer of a defective pool drain cover. The case involved a three-year-old girl[13] who was disemboweled by the suction power of the pool drain pump when she sat on an open pool drain whose protective cover other children at the pool had removed, after the swim club had failed to install the cover properly. Despite 12 prior suits with similar claims, Sta-Rite continued to make and sell drain covers lacking warnings. Sta-Rite protested that an additional warning would have made no difference because the pool owners already knew the importance of keeping the cover secured.
So, this happened 12 times before and the company couldn't see fit to put a sticker on the drain or install any kind of safety measure that would prevent little three year old girls being disemboweled? I think they deserved to pay for that. If the award was excessive, you have the jury to blame for that.
You aren't getting it. 11 times before; the jury came to the correct conclusion that in order for a safety device to be effective; it first needs to be correctly installed and/or not removed. (The helmet sitting in my closet will do me very little good if I crash my bike without it.)
farmerman wrote:and the judge was empowered to readjust any of the awards up or down, or to not grant PUNITIVE awards. Were punies not awrded in the STa rite case?
Clearly; you haven't even read what I wrote, let alone did any real research, before accusing me of such.
(Sta-Rite settled after the jury announced $25,000,000, then went back to deliberate additional punitive damages.)
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:OB if you or one of your children or nieces or nephews ever get their guts sucked out of a pool drain or some such thing where you have to suffer the heartbreak of looking at your child or relatives child for the rest of your life and feel the REAL PAIN and the NEVERENDING HEARTBREAK of seeing the quality of their lives destroyed.... I feel certain, and I hope matter of fact, that you'll just run your finger down the yellow pages and get the cheapest attorney you can find.
Obviously a man of your principle will not take any pains to hire the attorney with the track record of getting children and thier families the best settlements possible.
That's his job, and now he's a scumbag for doing it so well. You lose.
A man of my principle would have little choice but to recognize that other kids removed the grate (and not blame them for being kids). A man of my principle doesn't call an attorney when tragedy strikes, unless there is ample cause to believe that gross negligence caused the Problem. There is considerable differences in opinion on breast cancer treatments; so when my mother passed away; I too could have blamed this doctor or that... and hired a scumbag like Edwards to prove it so, or scare them out of a settlement... but that's not the way I fly. It never occured to me to call a lawyer over negligence that didn't clearly exist. If it did in this case; it was the pool installer who failed to properly install the device, or the kids who removed it completely. There is no good reason to go after Sta-Rite... beyond the depth of their pockets.
Your post is another appeal to pity. The Edwards Special. The problem with your pity; is it blinds you to the fact that in all 20+ cases where innocent doctors were raked over the coals for supposedly giving children CP; all 20+ were 100% innocent. Got that? 100% innocent.
Mother Nature selected these innocent children for CP... and your hero, the opportunistic scumbag that he is, selected their equally innocent Doctors for targets, for doing absolutely nothing wrong.