Baldimo wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:Woiyo & Baldimo & Okie,
There wasn't anything wrong with using the Frost family as an example of people who were helped by SCHIP; they were ideal candidates for it.
JTT may be interested in only insulting you guys, but I'm not - I'd rather beat your asses in a policy discussion. Which one of you has the guts to step up and explain why you think they shouldn't have qualified for the SCHIP program?
Cycloptichorn
I don't get how they can afford to send their children to this expensive school but can't afford health insurance. $40,000 a year for 2 children is quite a lot money for an education that isn't even a highschool or college education but yet the parents can't afford insurance? Can't they find a less expensive school that still gets their children a good precollege education but still allows them to provide their family with insurance which is their responsiblity as parents?
This is the problem with most social programs. It allows people to discharge their responsibilites and forces the US people to pick up their slack.
My problem with the expansion of the program is that they are calling adults up to the age of 25 children, in order to expand socialized medicine. Since when are people age 25 children? They also want to expand it to cover people who are 60% above the poverty level. Your trying to tell the American people that people who earn up to that much money don't work for companies that provide health insurance? My wife and I earn about $42,000 a year combined and both of our employeers provide health insurance. I pay about $150 a month for my insurance and it is very good insurance. It allowed my family to get a cochlear implant for my young deaf son. We paid our 10% and now he is learning to hear.
That was my responsibility to provide that insurance for my family and I properly discharge my duties as a father. Why can't other people do the same. Once again most social programs are there to cover for people who make poor choices in life.
See above; they don't pay 40k a year in tuition. This is the problem with using half-assed stalking as your source for information, it's incorrect.
You may not be aware but 24 is the standard age at which insurance covers 'dependents' ie children.
Covering people up to 60% of the poverty level is appropriate. You may note that the people in question don't have a job which offers them health insurance in the way that yours does. Now, they could change careers and get a job which does, but 'change your career' isn't an option for a huge number of people and isn't a good solution to our health care problems.
The funny thing is, this guy was running his own woodworking business and is on his way to being a landowner, while working to revitalize the run-down neighborhood in which they live. They are an exemplary family according to the Republican notion of what people should do with their lives: small-business owners who are creating capital. Until they need something; then, to the right, they're socialist scum.
Cycloptichorn
