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The US, The UN and Iraq

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 09:33 am
HoT

Brevity is an admirable quality. Gray's Anatomy, for example. Way too big. Hack it down to its core bits and we could speed needed brain surgeons through their training lickedy-split.

As regards the naval misadventures you refer too, I confess to scant knowledge of the circumstances of all, with a bit on two. And I also confess to little interest in the history of military incidents or military strategy.

If you were to flesh out the anatomy of your point it might prove helpful to me, at least. If Tallyrand should happen to show up and speak dismissively to you, I'll tie him down, and force him to read the New Yorker Book of Lawyer Cartoons.
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perception
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 11:50 am
Re: Colin Powell's statement today, Feb., 05, 2003, to the UN.

Eye witness account of Iraqi use of chemical agents on prisoners tied to beds.

Eye witness accounts of mobile labs that manufacture chemical and biological weapons---both truck and rail car.

Clear proof of connection between al Queda and Saddam.

You all can remove your hands from your ears, and remove those dark glasses that filter out all truth. Have a nice day
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 11:56 am
Powell did a great job of convincing the already convinced.
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 11:59 am
dyslexia wrote:
Powell did a great job of convincing the already convinced.

Likewise I'm sure that his words had no impact on those who are unwilling to consider them.
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perception
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:10 pm
Earlier I referred to this "condition" as blind denial----let me correct my mistake-----it is actually "deaf, dumb, AND blind denial"
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:14 pm
Quote:
"There is none so blind as those who will not see"


I think that Powell made a powerful argument, backed with indisputable facts. I was out walking, and listening to my Walkman. Therefore, I did not see the pictures of where the Iraqui WMD could reach. But I'll bet that Europe sat up and took notice!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:15 pm
well, yeah and i am pretty sure i am stupid as well but what the hey we all have a bear to cross.
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steissd
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:21 pm
Those who do not want to be convinced, will not be convinced by anything: even if the CIA manages to capture the Iraqi WMD lab together with its personnel and bring it to the session of the Security Council.
In all the stages of preparation to war against Iraq liberals accused President Bush that his main concerns referred to interest of the oil corporations. IMHO, the opposite thing is right: oil-related considerations are the main motives of the opponents of war. France, for example, has all the reasons to be scared of inaccessibility of the Iraqi oil to the French corporations after the USA wins the war. Russian companies are also heavily involved in Iraqi oil business, and their share in Iraqi oil revenues is also in jeopardy. So, why should the mentioned countries support the U.S. military action?
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perception
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:41 pm
Dys

Don't take it so hard------did you bet against Jon Gruden the other day also?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:41 pm
dyslexia- I would much prefer that I were dead wrong, and that Iraq was no threat. Unfortunately, I do not think that is the case!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:41 pm
Ehem, so the 'opponents' don't want the war because of the oil.

Thanks, steissd.
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steissd
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 12:50 pm
I do not mean the inofficial anti-war protesters, they really mean what they state. I mean the French government. It is supposed to act in favor of the national business in its competition against the American one, and it tries to do its job.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 01:51 pm
thats ok Phoenix, i thought the Viet Nam war was wrong too, but i fought on our side anyway. Which is something some people on here cant seem to understand. Having an opinion is NOT anti-american, deaf, blind, or stupid. i shall continue to have an opinion and i shall fight to the death for that right.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 01:56 pm
perception, You gave us a promise, I expect you to live up to it, please do!
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steissd
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 01:57 pm
Vietnam war was not wrong, at least on the level of reasons that caused it: the USA made an attempt to restrain global spreading of Communism.
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 01:59 pm
dyslexia wrote:
thats ok Phoenix, i thought the Viet Nam war was wrong too, but i fought on our side anyway. Which is something some people on here cant seem to understand. Having an opinion is NOT anti-american, deaf, blind, or stupid. i shall continue to have an opinion and i shall fight to the death for that right.

I agree absolutely, and let me personally say thanks for your sacrifice in defense of our freedoms. To me it means even more in that you fought despite your personal opinion of the war.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 02:00 pm
steissd: get a grip on history.
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Dreamweaver MX
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 02:01 pm
steissd,
Why do you think the attempt toward containment of communism makes everything honky dory?
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steissd
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 02:05 pm
I know well that the USA lost this war, but this does not mean that the Americans were the wrong side in the conflict.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2003 02:05 pm
Welcome aboard Dreamweaver MX. I will back steissd on this, he was a victim and I can understand his viewpoint! Even though, it was also the problem with Viet Nam, IMHO!
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