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The US, The UN and Iraq

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2003 12:11 pm
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2003 12:16 pm
Well, being serious again, here's a website with some information, which may explain some suggestions/opinions/reports better = it's "more visual", there's a map as well:
US Forces Order of Battle - 06 March
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HofT
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2003 12:22 pm
Steve - doubt all of Gen. Marshall's writings are to be found on the net; indeed, some may still be classified. Don't travel with all my books as you can imagine and wouldn't wish to paraphrase - perhaps someone else here can look up the exact wording in his published writings.

Always a pleasure to meet blind faith ("....you are ahead in the argument, of course...."). Source, please, for that "of course"? Perhaps identical with source quoted earlier on this thread, to wit, speeches by the Pope relating to military objectives??

Dunno about military expertise in the Vatican - halberds carried by Swiss guards? - but Napoleon (who did know the subject) said:

"God is on the side of the strongest army."

OK - better I vanish before homini, incubi, and whatever else Walter has retrieved from the abyss manage to regroup <G>
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2003 12:26 pm
Since China now joined Russia, France and Germany resisting the Iraq War
Latest news from the wires of AP
it may by worth calling back, what was said about CHINA earlier:

Quote:
The U.S. relationship with China and the global war on terrorism are the two most significant strategic challenges faced by the Bush administration. Both are vital and complex; the way the administration manages them will shape American security for many years. While there is a growing literature on both key strategic issues, little analysis has been done on the intersection of the two. This monograph fills the gap as the author assesses how the war on terrorism has affected China. He concludes that the war on terrorism radically altered the Asian strategic environment in ways that negated China's foreign policy gains of the last decade and undermined its image as Asia's only great power. He then offers a range of recommendations for a more stable relationship with China.
Dragon on Terrorism: Assessing China's Tactical Gains and Strategic Losses Post-September
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2003 12:28 pm
Te, HofT, laudamus! :wink:
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ul
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2003 12:46 pm
UN Wire

Topics:
IRAQ: U.K. Said To Seek Compromise; Annan Disavows Postwar Plan; More


Powell Questions Inspection Successes Ahead Of Blix Report

Annan Denies U.N. Has Secret Postwar Plan; Lubbers Vows U.N. Will Help Iran

U.S. Expels Iraqi U.N. Diplomats, Seeks Other Expulsions
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2003 12:46 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
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Seems poor old Charlie is beginning to regret his attacks on the Holywood glitterati Laughing

No, it seems that some people don't know how to disagree with civility. That you seem pleased by their bad behavior speaks volumes about your character.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 06:24 am
Give me a freakin break!!!!!!!



HOUSTON, March 6 (Reuters) - A Halliburton Co. (nyse: HAL - news - people) subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root (KBR) has won the contract to oversee any firefighting operations at Iraqi oilfields after any U.S.-led invasion, a Defense Department source said on Thursday.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 08:18 am
TW suggest you read what Charlie Daniels said in his soapbox before you draw any conclusions about me Cool
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 08:36 am
It seems Bush has given up on the UN, because the UN is not going to deliver what he wants. The fact that Blair is DESPERATE for at least a majority vote (even if its vetoed) doesn't seem to bother him that much. I heard it said that the US won't even bother using it's full diplomatic muscle, to help get it's ally out of the deep brown stuff. The war could therefore start even before 17th March, immediately after the UN vote, to stop any pre emptive attack on Israel. That would ensure the end of at least two world leaders, Saddam Hussein, and Tony Blair.
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ul
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 08:47 am
UN Watch

http://images.derstandard.at/20030307/SamstagKari8Maerz.jpg
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 08:57 am
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 10:18 am
Cheney
Mystery solved concerning the unexplained absence of Cheney ....... he's been moonlighting at Haliburton ..............
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 10:21 am
observation/opinion: anticipation of post war iraq needing a strong US military presence to maintain separation of hostilites between Islam factions/Kurds resulting in alliances among diverse factions against occupation forces of US. lose/lose situation.
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Kara
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 10:42 am
Quote:
I heard it said that the US won't even bother using it's full diplomatic muscle, to help get it's ally out of the deep brown stuff.


Careful, Steve, HofT will getcha for your lapsus contractus. Laughing

Ge, thanks for telling us where Cheney went. I thought he might be in Iraq working on oil deals with Jordan.
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Kara
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 11:11 am
Steve, I heard a news report on NPR this morning that Jack Straw was calling the French foreign minister by his first name in UN talks, a highly unusual form of address in the formality of the UN. I wonder if JS went to school on GWB's folksy manner?
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hiama
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 11:24 am
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 11:32 am
Kara

lapsus contractus (is that a tropical disease?) lol

Jack Straw's performance was extraordinary. I watched it live. He broke off addressing the council, and started to talk directly at "My good friend Dominique". The appropriately named Jack Straw made a good job at clutching vehemently to a weak argument, and won a little round of applause from the gallery.

Afterwards to camera, Dominique confirmed his friendship with Jack, through clenched teeth.

All very funny and most entertaining. Pity it has to end in war.

Did our Jack study Georgie boy's folksie manner? I doubt it, he wouldn't want to make a complete fool of himself in such auspicous circumstances would he?
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BillW
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 11:56 am
He wouldn't! Gotta get stupid to get that low!
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2003 01:14 pm
Tartarin wrote:
. . . Sources tell TIME that the U.S. government has taken initial steps toward awarding $900 million in contracts to repair and rebuild the country, contracts that will go exclusively to U.S. companies and to subcontractors from nations officially designated as friendly. . . .

Padon the incomplete quote, Tartarin, please.

Now, if the U.S. is awarding contracts, whose money would they be using? France's and Germany's? Suppose these supportive countries were to make a significant contribution - I just know what the national origin of the construction companies won't be.
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