blatham, So much for 'Arab' support.

I think they're asking for 50 billion with a "B." c.i.
Blatham
Instead of your chortling--optional titles for this old morality play---
Why not ------Turks attempt international blackmail
I say-----DO IT WITHOUT THE BASTARDS......................THEY WILL THEN BE PUT ON NOTICE TO NOT SET ONE FOOT INSIDE THE IRAQ BORDER----IT WILL BE ONE LESS CONTESTANT FOR TURF
Well, at least the Turks have cleared up any doubt of their profession. What remains now is merely the particulars of negotiations revolving around specific services to be performed. I believe it customary in such arrangements to discretely present the agreed upon fee upon settling the nature of the desired services. It's been quite a while, and my own negotiations were frequently conducted in a different language, but I really believe there is a well established and time honored protocol to these things.
timber
I know...and Kay Bailey Hutchinson was on PBS news tonight rhetorically wondering just how it could be that those (chicken liver implied) French and Germans and Belgians leave a democratic Muslim nation of good friends utterly, utterly defenseless.
How can these people live with themselves?
How, indeed! snicker, snicker.... c.i.
perception
This is a classic case of why I hate these guys.
The claim: We need to defend Turkey from evil Sadaam
The truth: We need their runways
The strategy: Do it via NATO, so it doesn't look like the yanks (no body wants that)
The problem: Germany, France, Belgium say "Not going to let you sneak in this back door"
The PR spin: Say that those Euros are just teeny dicked and won't protect a friend.
As we pull out our last aircraft he will be allowed to accidentally "pickle off" a load of cluster bombs. It couldn't possibly cause any greater harm to the relations between the two countries.
perception
Old friend...you want to trust your leaders. Me too.
Blatham
With your double and triple spin on everything I believe you might just outsmart yourself.
Timber
I don't know about their profession but there is no doubt about who their mothers were.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=535&u=/ap/20030218/ap_on_re_eu/europe_iraq&printer=1
Quote:
EU Warns Iraq It Faces 'Last Chance'
8 minutes ago Add World - AP to My Yahoo!
By BARRY RENFREW, Associated Press Writer
BRUSSELS, Belgium - European leaders, trying to end their bitter dispute over Iraq, warned Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) on Monday he faces a "last chance" to disarm, but gave no deadline and said U.N. weapons inspectors must have more time to finish their work ...
... That was seen as a setback for Germany, which has opposed war under any circumstances.
"Baghdad should have no illusions. It must disarm and cooperate immediately and fully. The Iraqi regime alone will be responsible for the consequences if it continues to flout the will of the international community and does not take this last chance," the leaders said ...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=578&u=/nm/20030217/ts_nm/iraq_bush_dc&printer=1
Quote:After Bush Meet, Latvian Predicts Iraq Developments
Mon Feb 17, 4:26 PM ET Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!
By Patricia Wilson
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - After meeting President Bush (news - web sites), Latvia's leader said on Monday there would be developments in the Iraq crisis within weeks and played down a split in Europe over how to disarm Baghdad.
Well, something's happening.
timber
As I see it, The US will put great emphasis on the Feb 28 UN Meeting, while the French and their supporters may be expected to push for the mid-March meeting as the point at which to impose a deadline. The idea of a deadline, whatever the date of that deadline, seems to have entered the equation. Military Intervention is now an option to be discussed. There will be much discussion, but that discussion likely will be long over by St. Patrick's Day. The War probably will be over before St. Patrick's Day.
timber
Actually, the EU did was is commonly called " a compromise". Thus, both (extreme) sites had to lower their sites.
Quote:"[And]the Germans noted with satisfaction that the phrase "time is running out" had been removed from the final statement.
The French President, Jacques Chirac, said the EU's mini-crisis over Iraq appeared to have been resolved, but he made it clear France was still opposed to a second UN Security Council resolution authorising the use of force.
For his part, the UK Prime Minister, Tony Blair, insisted the statement sent a strong signal to Baghdad that this was Iraq's final opportunity to disarm peacefully.
"Iraq will be disarmed of weapons of mass destruction whether it is done peacefully or by conflict," Mr Blair said."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2773877.stm
Comments here in Europe point especially to this line of the Eu-statement:
Quote:"We want to achieve this peacefully. It is clear that this is what the people of Europe want."
Full text:
In the European Union Leaders' Words: 'War Is Not Inevitable' in Iraq
This is said to be a change in European foreign policy and a further step to more democratization in the EU.
Walter interesting article but it seems as thoug entropy is really the word of the day world wide.
Has anyone else noticed how little attention this item gets in the on-going US media discussion of the middle east? (from Walter's link)
Quote:In this regional context, the European Union reiterates its firm belief in the need to invigorate the peace process in the Middle East and to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
We continue to support early implementation of the road map endorsed by the quartet [the European Union, the United States, Russia and the United Nations]. Terror and violence must end. So must settlement activity. Palestinian reforms must be speeded up and, in this respect, President Arafat's statement that he will appoint a prime minister is a welcome step in the right direction.