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The US, The UN and Iraq

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:34 pm
edgar: simple, to the point and just!

Yes Rumps and Bush are very arrogant!
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:40 pm
One question. How many of you here have been on the battlefield?
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:42 pm
I flew Phantoms fron carriers in the Tonkin Gulf during Vietnam.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:45 pm
I was a grunt, in the field!
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:48 pm
Bill,

Army or Marines?
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:49 pm
Bush is Bush - Army, Custards Cav! (I'm talking about the real Bush, not the annointed one!)
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:54 pm
Then, by damn, salute to you soldiers...on and off the battlefield.
The world owes you...
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Kara
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:54 pm
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 06:59 pm
I Corp, '67-'68. USMC, Communications.



timber
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 07:06 pm
ci - So those who disagree with you are misguided and those who agree with you are insightful? Okay. Got it. :wink:
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 07:09 pm
1955 to 1959, US Air Force, Strategic Air Command, conventional and nuclear weapons - during peace time. Served in Morocco for one year. c.i.
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Asherman
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 07:12 pm
I did not serve in combat while in the military.
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Kara
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 07:37 pm
Quote:
One thing I can comment on is the tendency I noticed of some of the gay rights proponents to couch their arguments in terms of civil rights; to blatantly or implicitly align themselves with those who championed the move to lead the country out of Jim Crow.


Snood, I'm getting back to you long after your post which included the above. I hadn't decided whether to respond, the issue being off-topic here; but I was noodling around in Philosophy tonight and ran across your posts in Shaq, Yao, etc., and then I understood where you were coming from. I would discuss the subject from a slightly different angle, and you might ultimately agree with me.

In that regard, I can't resist quoting Elizabeth Cady Stanton who said to a male black activist who felt his cause for equity was more compelling than hers for women's suffrage:..."If you would have once, even in your most downtrodden and demeaning moments, have traded places with me, a white woman, I'll accept that your cause is greater than mine."

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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 07:41 pm
Hmmm!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 08:05 pm
Kara, Heavy stuff there. c.i.
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perception
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 08:28 pm
Twenty years US Air Force---tour of one year in Vietnam flying
the A-IH skyraider. (1965-66)
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 08:34 pm
US Navy April 1962 through January 1965. My three year hitch was shortened by three months when I enrolled in the Long Beach City College. Shortly after I left active duty the Gulf of Tonquien (sp) incident was reported. The ship I served on went to Vietnam to replace the ships involved. - Without me, of course.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 08:43 pm
Sorry, Letty. I spent my time in the Southeastern US and finally Germany. You go where they send you.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 09:01 pm
http://www.defenselink.mil/policy/speech/feb_11_03.html

Quote:
Because the Commander of the U.S. Central Command will have a key role in administration in Iraq, many have thought that our plans for Iraq are based on what the Allies did in Germany after World War II. But that is not the case. Our intention, in case of war, would be to liberate Iraq, not to occupy it.

Our administration would involve Iraqis as soon as possible, and we would transfer responsibility to Iraqi entities as soon as possible. Following the initial period of U.S./coalition military government, we envisage a transitional phase in which responsibility is gradually transferred to Iraqi institutions, leading to the eventual establishment of a new Iraqi government in accordance with a new constitution.


Just thought that might be germain to the discussion ... go on with the VFW meeting.



timber
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 12 Feb, 2003 09:18 pm
timber, It all sounds good, but how many years we look'n at? Two, five, ten, twenty? We haven't even finished with Pakistan, and we're going to add another one? I don't think our administration knows - for sure. c.i.
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