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Do you agree that the greater number and/or importance of those whom Blackwater guards in Iraq is the cause for the company's apparent greater aggression?

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About 7,000 private security contractors work for the Pentagon in Iraq including the Blackwater Company. That being the case they are nothing more than US Mercenaries acting at behest of the US Government and they should be brought to task, preferable before the ICC (International Criminal Court) at the Hague.

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anton wrote:

About 7,000 private security contractors work for the Pentagon in Iraq including the Blackwater Company. That being the case they are nothing more than US Mercenaries acting at behest of the US Government and they should be brought to task, preferable before the ICC (International Criminal Court) at the Hague.

Here, here.

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I think the sense of impunity has something to do with it.

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Freeduck has a point. These guys know they aren't subject to either local law or military regulations.

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Noddy24 wrote:

Freeduck has a point. These guys know they aren't subject to either local law or military regulations.

Do you have proof that "these guys" aren't subject to local laws? When I was in Afghanistan we were subject to local laws. That is one of the reasons we weren't able to drink while deployed. Pakistan wasn't a war visit for me, it was a humanatarian mission and we still couldn't drink. When people of other nations come to the US aren't they subject to US law? The only people who can't be detained are people under Diplotmatic status. Is blackwater working under the protection?

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Baldimo wrote:

Noddy24 wrote:
Freeduck has a point. These guys know they aren't subject to either local law or military regulations.

Do you have proof that "these guys" aren't subject to local laws? When I was in Afghanistan we were subject to local laws. That is one of the reasons we weren't able to drink while deployed. Pakistan wasn't a war visit for me, it was a humanatarian mission and we still couldn't drink. When people of other nations come to the US aren't they subject to US law? The only people who can't be detained are people under Diplotmatic status. Is blackwater working under the protection?

According to the US gov't, Blackwater is neither responsible for obeying Iraqi laws (as a contractor for the US, they can't be sued in Iraqi courts) nor are they responsible for US laws (they contracted with the MNF, not the US gov't, so they can't be sued in the US).

Congress and the State dept. are working on 'clarifying' this situation.

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Freeduck has a point. These guys know they aren't subject to either local law or military regulations.

There may be laws but historically speaking, have mercenaries ever felt subject to them?.

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I have been following this on NPR, but still don't feel I know much about it. Sounds very co0mplicated and intense. One blackwater employee apparently pulled a gun on a coworker to get him to stop firing. I want THAT guy (the former) to speak up.

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The bottom line is, Blackwater is only adding to worlds bad opinion of the US as the bully of the world and that is very sad... What has happened to the decent America we used to know?

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Baldimo wrote:

Noddy24 wrote:
Freeduck has a point. These guys know they aren't subject to either local law or military regulations.

Do you have proof that "these guys" aren't subject to local laws? When I was in Afghanistan we were subject to local laws. That is one of the reasons we weren't able to drink while deployed. Pakistan wasn't a war visit for me, it was a humanatarian mission and we still couldn't drink. When people of other nations come to the US aren't they subject to US law? The only people who can't be detained are people under Diplotmatic status. Is blackwater working under the protection?

Bremmer issued a law before he left Iraq exempting all US contractors from prosecution. That law has not been repealed. Yet.

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anton wrote:

The bottom line is, Blackwater is only adding to worlds bad opinion of the US as the bully of the world and that is very sad... What has happened to the decent America we used to know?

It would be interesting to compare how many countries the USA has invaded versus Iran.

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(putting up a pinata filled with cluster bombs - have fun everyone!)

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Hearing on CSPAN now. Kucinich, as always, nails it. Blackwater's 'shoot first and DON'T ask questions later' causes problems for our mission.

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Kuchinich couldn't nail his own wife with a nail gun. Wadda blowhard.

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Have you seen his wife?

Are you listening on CSPAN, cj? Erik Prince is talking now.

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Yeah, but that old fart couldn't nail her with a strap on and a case of Viagra.

The D's will do ANYTHING to discredit Bush and the war in Iraq. Anything.

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The US House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released a report Monday noting that Blackwater fired 122 employees, more than one-seventh of its workforce in Iraq, in the past three years based on inappropriate behaviors involving alcohol, drugs, weapons and violence.

The report also reveals Blackwater has been involved in an estimated 1.4 shootings a week in Iraq since 2005.

Although private security firms are only authorized to use defensive force by the US State Department, Blackwater employees fired the first shots in more than 80 percent of the 195 incidents.

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