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STOATMOBILE WORLD TOUR! (all are welcome)

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 04:41 am
Building houses on dip slopes of Palisades cliffs is another thing about California logic that escapes me. I wouldnt insure all those houses as an incentive to allow oad cuts to be clipped waay back so that the cliff angles arent so steep. Yioull always have slides until the hill cuts reach a safe angle . Theres so many factors that interact , most of them common sense and a few natural. So, I was never a big fan of how silly some of Californias proscriptive building requirements were, but thye still allowed people to build after meeting these requirements tjhat are sewpt aside by mother bnature in a nanosecond.

Its like building houses in the Mississippi flood plain. A flood WIL happen sooner or later so not having flood insurance avaliable was a first step by an industry to reduce risk.

Nobody loves insurance companies, but, no matter how high the premium the claim to replace a catastrophic failure i just a matter of time.

Most insurance companies have an advisory department of environmental scientists geologists and engineers.
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jespah
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 09:11 am
{grabs a small chocolate} Thanks, these are lovely. I think this is my 17th.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 12:55 pm
Bergamot Station

Bergamot Station is Southern California's largest art gallery complex and cultural center, located on eight acres in the heart of Santa Monica featuring contemporary art galleries, The Santa Monica Museum of Art, architecture and design firms, a cafe, and a frame shop.

Bergamot Station is the historical name for the site on which the gallery complex is located, dating back to 1875 when it was a stop for the Red Line trolley running from Los Angeles to the Santa Monica Pier.* Bergamot is a flower of the mint family that once flourished in the area.
(copied from the website)

http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2007/04/05/p15-070405-s4.jpg

The Peter Fetterman photography gallery is one of my favorites.
http:// www.peterfetterman.com





*As an aside, shutting down the Red Line trolley system was one of the LA area's more stupid moves.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 01:19 pm
This graphic shows Frank Gehry's remodel of an old house, his own, on a corner lot in Santa Monica. The house was originally an ordinary house; well, it still is, but now it's "deconstructed". Or, not, as this quote from Wikipedia shows -

"The Gehry Residence is Frank Gehry's own house. It was originally an extension, designed by Gehry built around an existing house. It makes use of unconventional materials, such as chain link fence and corrugated steel. It is sometimes considered one of the earliest deconstructivist buildings, although Gehry himself denies that it was deconstructivism.
The Gehry Residence is located in Santa Monica, California. In 1977 Frank and Berta Gehry bought a pink dutch colonial that was originally built in 1920. Gehry wanted to explore with the materials he was already using: metal, plywood, chain link fencing, and wood framing. He chose to wrap the outside of the house with a new exterior while still leaving the old exterior visible. He hardly touched the rear and south facades and to the other sides of the house he wedged in titled glass cubes. Then, in the fall of 1991, they chose to remodel due to the needs of their growing family including two teenage boys.
Many of Gehry's neighbours were not happy at the unusual building being built in their neighbourhood. It's rumoured that one neighbour used to regularly bring his dog to defecate on Gehry's lawn, in protest."
link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gehry




http://transcriptions.english.ucsb.edu/archive/courses/liu/english236/materials/gehry-house1.gif



Here is a view of the front of the house -

http://faculty.evansville.edu/rl29/art105/img/gehry_house.jpg

more -

http://time-blog.com/looking_around/09ouro.L.jpg


http://miya.pallanoia.org/blog/media/2/20060313-gehry-2.jpgThat's a quote from this blog.
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Tai Chi
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 01:26 pm
At the risk of proving to one and all how illiterate I am when it comes to architectural design, my first reaction is "What an eyesore." My second is, "I fully understand the feelings of the neighbour with the defecating dog." Ugh, is that chipboard for a front door?

(Of course, I hate the new Royal Ontario Museum, so what do I know?)
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 01:41 pm
Lunch time! I think we'll find ourselves a place for lunch in Venice. How about the Rose Cafe, which is "my office" when I visit Los Angeles now.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1345/593220573_bef58041d2.jpg
The display cases look unusually barren.. I suppose they are just opening up for the day in that photo.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1090/593222177_e76793221c.jpg

those photos are from this blog -
http://www.yovenice.com/category/venice-restaurants/page/2/

There's more to the Rose: lots of indoor tables, with one area rather fancy and another large section just wood tables and stools. There's a great "gift shop", and two outdoor patios. There is always art displayed - I've had a show there myself (sold a big painting, a big treat!)
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Tai Chi
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 01:49 pm
(Realize I sound really grumpy; must have eaten too much chocolate. Keep me away from those delicious looking desserts.)
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 02:09 pm
No, no, grumpy is fine with me - I love to be a blowhard about architecture myself, and being grumpy about it is half the fun. I also reserve the right to change my mind... multiple times. (On the ROM, what I most dislike about it is precisely how the new "addition" meets the old building - that plus I dunno how it'll work over time for seeing art).

I've photographed the Gehry house from the outside myself, back in the early eighties. I haven't hated it, in person. He was early in the "let us play with materials" game, and I enjoy that, at least sometimes. But, hey, I'm from Venice, which provided local architects with a sort of playground, back in the days when it was a pretty iffy real estate area. My reaction may have been affected by that being around the time I first took design classes, having never understood what design was before - it was just a word to me - and was getting into the play of it. Or, maybe the house just didn't look that awful to me in mid day light.

I'm not a complete Gehry fan; have seen one too many titanium twirly palaces... but I'll give him an A+ for expanding material vocabulary/usage. (More on that later..)
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 06:01 pm
Around the corner from the Rose Cafe is the Chiat Day building, with BINOCULARS by Claes Oldenburg and Coosje van Bruggen.

http://www.oldenburgvanbruggen.com/binoculars.jpg

Binoculars, 1991
Steel frame. Exterior: concrete and cement plaster painted with elastomeric paint. Interior: gypsum plaster
45 x 44 x 18 ft. (13.7 x 13.4 x 5.5 m)
Central component of a building designed by Frank O. Gehry and Associates, 340 Main Street, Venice, California
Photo by Attilio Maranzano

Engineer: J. Robert Jennings
Commissioned May 1986 by Jay Chiat
Installed August 1989-August 1991
Inaugurated September 23, 1991

http://thumbsll.virtualglobetrotting.com/1/4/14884.gif

http://www.publicartinla.com/sculptures/binoculars.jpeg
quoting the last photo link -
1985-1991, Claes Oldenburg and Coosje van Bruggen. Giant binocular shape incorporated into the Frank Gehry design for the Chait Day Mojo office building. The interior of the binoculars forms a conference room. Main Street near intersection with Rose, Venice.


A terrific article about Oldenburg and van Bruggen's collaborative works HERE
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Sep, 2007 06:38 pm
Egads, I miss Joe's...

perhaps we can go there for dinner after we walk along Ocean Front Walk.

Meantime, here's the lunch menu -

Joe's
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 11:18 am
Once upon a time, I lived on Windward Avenue in Venice. Well, two places on Windward Avenue. I bring this up since Windward Avenue is a place of interest.

Here's a Wiki photo from 1913 -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f6/Venice-CA-1913-winwardave.jpg/250px-Venice-CA-1913-winwardave.jpg

and a postcard from that era -
http://www.dumbangelmagazine.com/images/venice003.jpg

The building in the foreground is long gone, but I had a studio in the second building, back in the seventies. Or I think I did - there is something slightly different about the facade, but it's in the right place in the lineup of buildings. The St. Charles Hotel had been a pestilential flophouse up until a year or so before I and other artists moved in; it was refurbished by Tom Sewell and Roger Webster.

Here's a link on Tom Sewell (his hair is white! egads, time passes)

In the time I lived there, there was a club downstairs (I never did check it out). The Kipper Kids, among others, performed there. There's my claim to fame; one of them ran around the upstairs halls and found me, to borrow a lipstick... Well, not borrow.

Kipper Kids



I guess 25 Windward is a hostel now - http://www.hosteltimes.com/HostelPIc/sm_H468PN1.jpg


Wikipedia goes into the history of Venice-of-America and its canals HERE.


Windward Circle in the old days -

http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/VenLag.jpg
I lived in a rental house a block from that circle for a few months before my to-be-husband and I bought a house. Ah, but by then the circle was sans water.


One of the canals -

http://www.planetc1.com/images/venice_canals.jpg


This looks like a weekend day photo of Ocean Front Walk, a stretch of paving along Venice Beachfront that is sometimes near empty, winter days, and sometimes jam packed with tourists, zillions of tourists, plus the non-tourists like me. I've liked it best in winter myself.

http://www.terragalleria.com/images/us-ca/usca35564.jpeg


Also on Ocean Front Walk, an early Gehry 'building' - for a lifeguard, if I remember correctly.http://www.you-are-here.com/architect/norton.jpg
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 11:32 am
Time for me to say that none of these photos have been mine. They've all been taken from online, usually google images. To see the websites they are from, please right click on the photos and check properties, if you have a PC, and for a Mac, just hold down control and choose "open in another window" and you'll see the URL.

I do have many of my own photos of some of the places I've been showing, but dullard here hasn't organized her photos and scanner in my new place in New Mexico.

One of these days, I'll inundate a2k with osso photos, and you'll be sorrrrrrrrry.



Back later with more on Venice architecture. Then a short stop in Orange County, and then time for San Diego with Calamity Jane.

Meantime, I've parked the Stoatmobile on Venice Pier, for folks to stretch their legs with a jog by the water or a shopping and food walk along Ocean Front Walk.

http://newpartisan.com/art/gary%20copeland/piers/3.jpg
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Tai Chi
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 01:39 pm
Call me inconsistent but I liked the Gehry lifeguard building.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 01:43 pm
Me too! He once had an office that abutted the alley behind Ocean Front Walk, called the Speedway. Sorta a funky, as I remember. (I've got a photo somewhere).
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 04:28 pm
I see I screwed up by forgetting the Tom Sewell link. Y'know, I'll catch on to doing this kind of posting efficiently just as I finish with Orange County.

Tom Sewell
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 04:30 pm
Actually, if you look at the photo of the Gehry lifeguard building fast, it looks like a Cow Sculpture...
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Tai Chi
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 05:10 pm
ossobuco wrote:
Actually, if you look at the photo of the Gehry lifeguard building fast, it looks like a Cow Sculpture...


Laughing You're right!
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margo
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2007 08:40 pm
dadpad wrote:
I wanna sit next to margo, cause shes cute.

Hmmmm!!!

Of course, I'm cute. (by some meaning, anyway!)

Venice Calif., has some canals, like the original Venice?

One of those buildings there looks something like the Doge's Palace around the windows. Luck or planning?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2007 01:45 pm
Planning - the idea of Mr. Abbot Kinney.

I think it's explained on the Wiki link.

Yes, here is a clip from it. (For more info than in this clip and lots of photos, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice%2C_Los_Angeles%2C_California


HISTORY

Venice of America was founded by tobacco millionaire Abbot Kinney in 1905 as a beach resort town, 14 miles west of Los Angeles. He and his partner Francis Ryan had bought two miles of oceanfront property south of Santa Monica in 1891. They built a resort town called Ocean Park on the north end of the property, which was soon annexed to Santa Monica. After Ryan died, Kinney and his new partners continued building south of Navy Street in the unincorporated territory. After the partnership dissolved in 1904, Kinney built on the marshy land on the south end of the property. His intent was to create a seaside resort like its namesake in Italy.


When Venice of America opened on July 4, 1905, Kinney had dug several miles of canals to drain the marshes for his residential area, built a 1200-foot-long pleasure pier with an auditorium, ship restaurant, and dance hall, constructed a hot salt-water plunge, and built a block-long arcaded business street with Venetian architecture. Tourists, mostly arriving on the "Red Cars" of the Pacific Electric Railway from Los Angeles and Santa Monica, then rode Venice's miniature railroad and gondolas to tour the town. But the biggest attraction was Venice's mile-long gently sloping beach. Cottages and housekeeping tents were available for rent.



The town grew in population, annexed adjacent housing tracts, and changed its official name from Ocean Park to Venice in 1911. The population (3119 residents in 1910) soon exceeded 10,000, and drew 50,000 to 150,000 tourists on weekends.
Attractions on the Kinney Pier became more amusement oriented by 1910, when a Venice Scenic Railway, Aquarium, Virginia Reel, Whip, Racing Derby and other rides and game booths were added. Since the business district was allotted only three one-block-long streets, and the City Hall was more than a mile away, other competing business districts developed. Unfortunately, this created a fractious political climate. Kinney, however, governed with an iron hand and kept things in check. But when he died in November 1920, Venice became harder to politically govern. With the amusement pier burning six weeks later in December 1920, and Prohibition (which had begun the previous January), the town's tax revenue was severely affected.


The Kinney family rebuilt their amusement pier quickly in order to compete with Ocean Park's Pickering Pier, and the newly built Sunset Pier. When it opened it had two roller coasters, a new Racing Derby, a Noah's Ark, a Mill Chutes, and dozens of other rides. By 1925 with the addition of a third coaster, a tall Dragon Slide, Fun House and Flying Circus aerial ride, it was the finest amusement pier on the West Coast. Several hundred thousand tourists visited on weekends and spent their hard-earned money on rides, restaurant food and souvenirs. In 1923 Charles Lick built the Lick Pier at Navy Street in Venice, adjacent to the Ocean Park Pier at Pier Avenue in Ocean Park. Another pier was planned for Venice in 1925 at Leona Street (now Washington Street).


For the amusement of the public, Kinney hired aviators to do aerial stunts over the beach. One of them, movie aviator and Venice airport owner B.H. DeLay, implemented the first lighted airport in the United States on DeLay Field (previously known as Ince Field). He also initiated the first aerial police in the nation, after a marine rescue attempt was thwarted. DeLay also performed many of the world's first aerial stunts for motion pictures in Venice.


But by 1925, Venice's politics became unmanageable. Its roads, water and sewage systems badly needed repair and expansion to keep up with its growing population. When it was proposed that Venice be annexed to Los Angeles, the board of Trustees voted to hold an election. Those for annexation and those against were nearly evenly matched, but many Los Angeles residents, who moved to Venice to vote, turned the tide. Venice became part of Los Angeles in October 1925.
Los Angeles had annexed the Disneyland of its day, and proceeded to remake Venice in its own image. They felt the town needed more streets for automobiles, not canals, and paved the bulk of them in 1929 after a protracted three-year court battle led by canal residents. They wanted to close Venice's three amusement piers, but had to wait until the first of the tidelands' leases expired in 1946.


In 1929, oil was discovered south of Washington Street on the Venice Peninsula, which was a fashionable residential area where movie stars lived. Within two years, 450 oil wells covered the area and drilling waste clogged the remaining waterways. It was a short-lived boom, that provided needed income to the community, which suffered during the Depression. The wells produced oil into the 1970s.


The city of Los Angeles had neglected Venice so long that by the 1950s it had become the "Slum by the Sea". With the exception of new police and fire stations in 1930, the city spent little on improvements after annexation. The city did not pave Trolleyway (Pacific Avenue) until 1954 when county and state funds became available. Cheap rents for run-down bungalow housing attracted predominantly European immigrants (including a substantial number of Jewish refugees from Hitler's death camps), and young counterculture artists, poets and writers. The Beat Generation hung out at the Gas House on Ocean Front Walk and at Venice West Cafe on Dudley where they held poetry readings and smoked marijuana. Police raids were frequent as they tried to rid the community of "undesirables."


Venice and neighboring Santa Monica were hosts for a decade to the Pacific Ocean Park (POP), an amusement and pleasure-pier built atop the old Lick Pier and Ocean Park Pier by CBS and the Los Angeles Turf Club (Santa Anita). It opened in July 1958. They kept the pier's old roller coaster, huge airplane ride and historic carousel, but converted its theaters and smaller pier buildings into sea-themed rides and space-themed attractions designed by Hollywood special-effects people. Visitors could travel in space on the Flight to Mars ride, tour the world in Around the World in 80 Turns, go beneath the sea in the Diving Bells or at Neptune's Kingdom, take a fantasy excursion into the Tales of the Arabian Nights on the Flying Carpet ride, visit a pirate world at Davy Jones' Locker, or visit a tropical paradise and its volcano by riding a train on Mystery Island. There were also thrill rides like the Whirlpool (rotor whose floor dropped out), the Flying Fish wild mouse coaster, an auto ride, gondola ride, double Ferris wheel, safari ride, and an area of children's rides called Fun Forest. Sea lion shows were performed at the Sea Circus.


Since attendance at the seaside park was too low to operate during the winter, and there was competition from Disneyland, Knott's Berry Farm and Marineland, it was sold after two seasons to a succession of owners, who let the park deteriorate. And since Santa Monica was redeveloping the surrounding area for high-rise apartments and condos, it became difficult for patrons to reach the park. It was forced into bankruptcy in 1967. After the park suffered a series of arson fires beginning in 1970, its rotting structure was demolished by 1974. Another aging attraction in the 1960s was the Aragon Ballroom that had been the longtime home of The Lawrence Welk Show & the Spade Cooley Show, and later the Cheetah Club where rock bands like the Doors, Blue Cheer & many other top bands of the time, performed. It burned in the 1970 fire. The district around POP is known as Dogtown, which was home to pioneering skateboarders the Z-Boys, as profiled in the documentary film, Dogtown and Z-Boys.


Producer Roger Corman owned a production facility, the Concorde/New Horizons Studio, on Main Street for many years, in which a large number of his films were shot. This facility was torn down to build lofts.



Attractions and neighborhoods


Venice is today one of the most vibrant and eclectic areas of Southern California and it continues a tradition of progressive social change involving prominent Westsiders. The Venice Family Clinic is the largest free clinic in the country.


Venice is an unusually pedestrian-oriented area for Los Angeles: many of its houses actually have their principal entries from pedestrian-only streets, and have house numbers on these footpaths. (Automobile access is by alleys in the rear.) However, like much of Los Angeles, Venice is also well-known for traffic congestion. It lies 2 miles away from the nearest freeway, and its unusually dense network of narrow streets was not planned for the demands of modern traffic. Mindful of the tourist nature of much of the district's vehicle traffic, though, its residents have successfully fought numerous attempts to extend the Marina Freeway (CA-90) into southern Venice.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2007 02:46 pm
Some of the Venice canals, aerial view -

http://www.venicebeachliving.com/nb/images/canalariel.jpg
In the decades I lived in Venice, the canal houses changed. There used to be mostly one story wood bungalows, often very small. Now the area has built up, maxing out the lots to a large extent. Property values have zoomed over time. (A lot of the old charm gone, from my point of view.)


Back to architecture -

This block building (see the yellow frame for the window) is/was called the 2-4-6-8 house. It is a two story studio and garage that abuts an alley in Venice. It was a relatively early work (1978) by Thom Mayne and Michael Rotondi, of Morphosis. The 2-4-6-8 refers to the windows.
http://www.netropolitan.org/morphosis/2468.gif



The original building on the lot was an old bungalow. That bungalow burnt, and the owner, the same fellow who had Morphosis build the studio, put up a new house, this time referencing the 2-4-6-8 house on the back of the lot.

Story here, in Architectural Record article -
Architectural Record article

The article interests me, not just for the story about the property, but for its description of Venice when the owner moved there, the exact year that I moved to Venice.


You may recognize the name Thom Mayne and Morphosis -
his firm recently won a major competition to build a new skyscraper on the outskirts of Paris.
BBC article and photo of proposed skyscraper HERE



(back later with more on Venice architecture)
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