engineer
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 08:51 am
@Blickers,
I will also say that in the late 70's the military was unloved and woefully underpaid with many enlisted families needing food stamps to make ends meet. Both Carter and Reagan significantly increased military pay and Reagan especially was pretty well loved for the Uniformed Services Pay Act of 1981 which increased military pay 10 to 16.5% and increased hazardous duty incentive pay for enlisted. You don't forget someone who recognizes your effort and ups your pay.
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 09:08 am
Does anyone think it significant that the vast majority of legislators that worked with both Sanders and Clinton prefer Clinton? Or do you hold with those who say that's just because they're all part of the bought-off, corrupt influence of the "establishment"?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 10:09 am
@snood,
Could be either, but I'd like more information before arriving at any conclusion.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 10:14 am
@snood,
I think a lot of it is probably because the Clintons have been very effective at raising money and helping the campaigns of hundreds (thousands?) of democratic candidates over their careers.

This is critical to America if real change is ever going to happen.

I mean, great for Bernie that he's been correct about social change for so long, but he's just one guy. The democratic party has been pushing for politicians in every state election, every local election, every national election across the country. Bernie hasn't done that...at all.

If these damn #bernieorbust supporters would take this enthusiasm and actually vote in every election (not just the presidential ones) then they'd have a shot in hell at getting what they want from our government.

Also, if they were to do that then the government would look a lot less 'bought and paid for' or corrupt...at least from their POV.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 10:18 am
@maporsche,
In agreement with the entirety of that post.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 03:22 pm

Exclusive Footage: Trying to Score an Upset on Hillary's Turf, Bernie Draws Huge Bronx Crowd

Sanders, Spike Lee, actress Rosario Dawson and the rapper Residente all spoke at a rally in the South Bronx.

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By Marlena Fitzpatrick-Garcia, Alexandra Rosenmann / AlterNet
April 1, 2016

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Photo Credit: D Dipasupile / Getty Images

More than 20,000 New Yorkers packed St. Mary’s Park in the Bronx to support Bernie Sanders at a free rally on Thursday evening ahead of the April 19 primary. While Hillary Clinton holds on to crucial support in Harlem, Sanders' bold move surprised South Bronx residents, as the poorest district in the United States is rarely visited on presidential campaign trails.

More than a quarter-million people are living in poverty in the South Bronx, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. So Sanders' message of establishing a $15 minimum wage standard, as well as making healthcare affordable and public colleges and universities tuition-free, resonated strongly with the gathered crowd, which was the Vermont senator's most diverse to date.
"We are not going to accept deteriorating inner cities!" Sanders thundered. "We are going to rebuild crumbling infrastructure, create affordable housing and 13 million new jobs!"

Watch AlterNet's exclusive footage of Bernie's rally Thursday night:

Sanders, who was born in Brooklyn to Jewish immigrant parents from Poland and Russia and grew up in a Flatbush tenement, was energized by a star-studded lineup that included Academy Award-winning director Spike Lee (who campaigned for Sanders in South Carolina), actress Rosario Dawson (who campaigned for Sanders in California) and René Pérez Joglar, a Puerto Rican rapper best known as Residente, of the alternative rap group Calle 13.

Dawson, who is of Puerto Rican and Cuban descent, criticized the Clinton campaign and some media news outlets for perpetuating misleading and divisive rhetoric. “Let me watch my tone, because we very much want a debate, which he already agreed to,” said the quick-witted actress, politically correcting herself.

“I’m supporting the guy who’s looking at all of us and saying you’re hired," Dawson said. "We can do this. Not me, us.”

Spike Lee kept it short and sweet by highlighting diversity as the reason “New York City is the greatest city on this Earth.” Saying "Bernie has to win New York," Lee addressed a younger generation, stressing that “we have to vote and we have to talk to our parents.”

But the biggest surprise of the night came from the first Latin American to win the Nobel Peace Summit Award, René Pérez Joglar, who delivered the longest speech, focused on Puerto Rico:

Puerto Rico is a colony of the United States. We are the oldest colony in the world. For years, we have been used as an experimental island. From the medical experiments on our people to the chemical experiments on our land. From 1941-2003 on the island of Vieques, the United States Navy undertook a series of experiments with different chemical and biological weapons while using the island as a bombing range. To this day, the land and people of Vieques have not fully recovered from this devastation. There’s a Puerto Rican, a political prisoner, who has been incarcerated for over 34 years, longer than Nelson Mandela. His name: Oscar López Rivera, and he deserves to be free, today.

More than 200,000 Puerto Ricans have served in the U.S. military. In our schools, children are taught more about U.S. history than the history of their own country. That is a colonial education. Without giving you exact numbers, I can tell you the U.S. gets more out of Puerto Rico economically than Puerto Rico receives from the U.S. We are currently living an unprecedented economic crisis and have the highest rates of poverty and unemployment of any other place in the U.S., yet the U.S. does not even allow us to restructure our debt. And this is the best one: People in Puerto Rico cannot vote for the President of the United States. In other words, we are not allowed to choose the person who makes crucial decisions regarding our country.

President Obama has warned that Puerto Rico's debt crisis could escalate into a humanitarian crisis. A White House "Roadmap for Congressional Action" on the crisis offers a bleak picture of this decade-long situation:

The 3.5 million Americans living in Puerto Rico have endured a decade of economic stagnation. Since 2006, Puerto Rico’s economy has shrunk by more than 10 percent and shed more than 250,000 jobs. More than 45 percent of the Commonwealth’s residents live in poverty—the highest poverty rate of any state or territory – and its 11.6 percent unemployment rate is more than twice the national level. These challenges have sparked the largest wave of outmigration since the 1950’s, and the pace continues to accelerate. More than 300,000 people have left Puerto Rico in the past decade; a record 84,000 people left in 2014.

In a statement released this morning, Sanders called for immediate action, becoming the first presidential candidate to address this critical issue:

The economic situation in Puerto Rico will not be improved by closing more schools, firing more teachers, laying-off more workers, slashing pensions and suspending the minimum wage. Instead, Puerto Rico must be given the time it needs to restructure its debt and grow its economy in a fair way. Congress must act immediately to give Puerto Rico the same authority granted to every municipality in this country to restructure its debt under the supervision of a bankruptcy court.

Sanders also strongly opposed the unelected oversight board for Puerto Rico that has been proposed by House Republicans:

There is a humanitarian crisis in Puerto Rico that Congress and the administration must address as soon as possible. But let me be clear: Establishing an unelected oversight board that would be given the power to inflict even more economic pain on the 3.5 million American citizens in Puerto Rico would be a move in exactly the wrong direction. It must be defeated.

Marlena Fitzpatrick-Garcia is a writer living in New York City. She is the CEO of the alternative journalism platform Latino Rebels.

Alexandra Rosenmann
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 06:18 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Thank you for sharing very informative.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 06:28 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
The democratic party has been pushing for politicians in every state election, every local election, every national election across the country. Bernie hasn't done that...at all.


When Obama was not able to get anything done in his first 4 years did he inspire the democratic voters to do this in the mid term elections? if so how much did he try? Did Hilary try repeatedly?

Quote:
If these damn #bernieorbust supporters would take this enthusiasm and actually vote in every election (not just the presidential ones) then they'd have a shot in hell at getting what they want from our government


This seems to be a true education but did Obama repeatedly let his voters know how important this issue is?

Another point of view that should be considered!

http://observer.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-must-sever-ties-with-dirty-tricks-hitman-david-brock/

maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2016 10:10 pm
@reasoning logic,
What difference does any of that make?

Are you suggesting that #bernieorbust supporters shouldn't give two shits about elections other than this years?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 04:20 am
Bernie's taking NY. In broad daylight, right under her elitist, entitled nose.
maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 07:03 am
@Lash,
Wanna bet?
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 07:23 am
@reasoning logic,
You have an excellent point (which at A2K on the political threads is evidenced by you being thumbed down!! LOL!!)

I bet Bernie will re-institute fireside chats (some fabulous social media communication) where we will know each bill coming up, who voted for what, and when they are up for re-election. Bernie and his team are MASTERS of communication and SINCE THEY AREN'T BEHOLDEN TO CORPORATIONS and the like, they are completely unafraid to tell the American people what's up.

It will be like nothing you have ever imagined. Bernie supporters know what will lead this sea change in American politics. Once you get corruption out, openness can come in.

BTW, corruption is being shown the door,...and offered a nice orange jumpsuit.

So sorry for the DC elite who've been milking us for decades. They'll have to find jobs like the rest of us.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 07:33 am
@maporsche,
Sure.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 07:36 am
@maporsche,
Damn straight!
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 07:44 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Wanna bet?

Good Luck
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 07:52 am
@Lash,
Sure, just like Bernie took...

Oh wait. He hasn't won a primary in any major state other than Michigan where he only got 49.8%.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 08:09 am
I don't believe in betting, but since I doubt any actual betting is going to take place, I bet Bernie will loose NY and the primary.

New York primary
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 08:18 am
NY loves Bernie. Berniepalooza in an enormous park in the Bronx, feeling the love.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/bernie-sanders-holds-new-york-rally-bronx-article-1.2584694
revelette2
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 08:23 am
@Lash,
Rolling Eyes , so have ya'll changed your motto to feeling the love? I just don't get all the hype buying into all this corny stuff. It is all just too trite.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2016 08:39 am
@revelette2,
I'm sure it's so hard for your sad sack people to be holding on a woman who is known to be corrupt, who people can't stand the thought of voting for - and you see young people braving storms and snow to stand and cheer for a 74 year old socialist Jew.

LOL.

He is loved. He is respected. He has come from relative obscurity to wrestle the presidency from the woman with the highest name recognition, arguably, in the world.

I can't imagine trading places with you and those like you during this energizing time in American history.

So, you hate the fact that people are showing love by the thousands - and that they're excited about their futures - and that young people are running into political responsibility and energizing the process...

Sad to be you, Rolling Eyes
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