The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

This story sums things up quite well.

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Well, I just witnessed blatant racial injustice with my own eyes. I was getting in my car after exiting a store when a young black man stumbled past me and collapsed against the store wall. When I got out to see if he was okay, a group of white people came rushing over, one of whom was a 20-something white woman who declared in distress, “I ran a red light and hit him with my car!” People immediately assured her that SHE would be okay, meanwhile the young man is writhing in pain on the ground, pants leg torn, tears running down his face. When the police arrived and the young woman explained what happened, it was suggested to her that maybe the light had been yellow and that the young man had “darted out into the street into her path.” I was floored. I said, “But she just SAID she ran the red light and hit him in the intersection!”
The police officers then led the young woman away and began talking with her privately in low tones. When the paramedics FINALLY got there I was surprised at the hostility they showed towards the young man. One blonde female EMT (shown in the photo) suggested that he couldn’t be THAT hurt if he was able to walk from the place where he was struck to the sidewalk where he finally collapsed. White bystanders commented several times about “What that poor girl must be going through.” I was the only one who commented on what the young man must be going through, what, with his mangled leg and all. I am absolutely positive that in the end “that poor girl” will be absolved of all wrongdoing and be able to go on her merry way. After all, she just ran a red light and slammed her car into the body of some black kid on a bike, right?

http://aattp.org/white-privilege-in-america-this-is-what-it-looks-like/

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@izzythepush,

I think that story has some credibility issues.

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@BillRM,

Charging predator my arse.

An ineffectual policeman panicked, let adrenalin get the better of him and shot a full twelve times.

Sounds like a panicking Nancy to me, rather than an officer of the law.

For you morons to then come here and post stuff about calibre and exit wounds just makes me go cold.
You possibly think you come across as big and macho in all of this, but I just think sociopath.

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@Lordyaswas,

Yes indeed I am sure you would not "panicked" if suffering an all out attacked by someone the size of an American football linebacker.

You would reason with the charging "gentleman/kid" who already had try to seized and used your gun against you if you had been that police officer.

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@FBM,

Why, because it was written by a black woman?

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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That was very, very WELL SAID, Bill.
Does anyone u know wanna re-think carrying a defensive .357 ??

A 357 is a far more powerful round then the 9mm the police now carry and added to that hollow points 357 and you are in good shape.

Hell there been cases of stopping charging bears with 357 rounds including one cop doing so in Alaska if memory serve me correctly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug

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@Lordyaswas,

When Darren Wilson was interviewed he showed no remorse. That's the language of a psychopath. When a normal person kills someone else they feel remorse, regardless of circumstance.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

When Darren Wilson was interviewed he showed no remorse. That's the language of a psychopath. When a normal person kills someone else they feel remorse, regardless of circumstance.

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Darren Wilson says he's sorry but his conscience is clear

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/25/us/darren-wilson-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Yes indeed I am sure you would not "panicked" if suffering an all out attacked by someone the size of an American football linebacker.

You would reason with the charging "gentleman/kid" who already had try to seized and used your gun against you if you had been that police officer.

Not at all. I would have made a lousy police officer. Unlike you, I have no delusion that I am in any way brave. You and your armchair hero buddies here would no doubt similarly shite themselves if confronted by an angry teenager, and no doubt do exactly what this policeman did.

Police Officers are supposed to be unflappable, and there is something terribly wrong with one if he feels the necessity to fire twelve times at an unarmed teenager.
If such an incident causes such blind panic, then that Police officer should seriously consider becoming a librarian.
Worse, if he DIDN'T panic and STILL unloaded twelve bullets, then he is as sinister and socio/psychopathic as several of you here seem to be, who cannot see a single thing wrong with this whole thing.

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@FBM,

I do not know how remorse most "normal" people would feel after killing in a self defense situation where it was kill or be kill.

It is a shame that we are raising young men who would attacked a police officer in that manner and take note his father/step father got in front of a large group and told them it is time to burn the town down.

Oh and Brown mother assaulting another family member for cutting into her profits for also selling Brown tee shirts of all things.

Given being raised by such people it is perhaps not surprising that he turn into a would be cop killer.

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@Lordyaswas,

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no doubt do exactly what this policeman did.

Yes indeed if being charge by someone who had already attacked me and try to take my gun away to used against me I would have done the same damn thing as the police officer did.

I love the idea that there should be some limit on how many times you can fired at a charging man short of when the threat is over with.

Oh I shot him two times and he still charging and that is my limit to how many times I can shoot him so now I must allow him to reach me to do his best to killed me as fair is fair.

We would not after all wish for fools to cried that we had shot him too many times.

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@BillRM,

Just to be clear, I'm not taking sides in this debate. I don't know for sure what was going through anyone's mind during that confrontation or afterwards, and I doubt that after-the-fact statements are 100% free of subsequent editing, rationalizations, selective memory, etc.

That said, if I'd been the one who'd killed in genuine self defense, I would also say that I regretted the incident ever happened, but not how I'd responded. As long as I knew that there was no other option for me.

Again, to be clear, I don't know for a fact that Wilson was in that position. I understand he had mace on him, but not a Taser. I'm not confident that mace would've been enough IF Brown was as determined as Wilson described. I've "tasted" mace before. Yeah, it's no fun, but if push came to shove, I could fight my way through it, I think.

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@FBM,

When I saw him being interviewed he showed no remorse whatsoever. Just because someone reminded him that it might be a good idea to say sorry, doesn't mean he was.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

I do not know how remorse most "normal" people would feel

Of course not. You think searching for extreme porn unavailable on Google, and hanging round a park with a box of kittens is normal.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Just to be clear, I'm not taking sides in this debate.

You keep telling yourself that. Just don't expect anyone else to believe it.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

When I saw him being interviewed he showed no remorse whatsoever. Just because someone reminded him that it might be a good idea to say sorry, doesn't mean he was.

A lot of time has passed since the incident. I can talk logically and unemotionally now about my brother's murder years ago, but I couldn't have in the day or few immediately afterwards. Yes, he could be lying, or he could just be a normal person who has processed the incident in a healthy way. I wouldn't expect him to be wailing and gnashing his teeth at this point.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

FBM wrote:

Just to be clear, I'm not taking sides in this debate.

You keep telling yourself that. Just don't expect anyone else to believe it.

Huh? Where have I taken sides? I've posted buttloads about police brutality, particularly against blacks and other disinfranchised minorities (start here: http://able2know.org/topic/253909-43#post-5816387 and work backwards), and I've posted sympathetically about the ongoing protests/demonstrations. But I'm also intellectually honest in saying that I don't actually, genuinely know what happened on that particular day between those two particular people. I do see police brutality, racism and militarization as a HUGE ******* problem in the US, but it would be logically errant to apply the situation at large to a single incident. which may prove to be an exception. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm defending either the cop or the dead guy.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
I represent the filosofy of loyalty to truth which was manifested by the Grand Jury.

Some wonderful Orwellian double talk there David.
The Grand Jury is a medieval concept dating to Henry II.

Does that make it BAD?

izzythepush wrote:

We threw it out completely in 1948.

Does that make it better??? (U threw out Winston Churchill, too, as soon as he conquered Hitler.)
More folks being tried for felonies without a finding of probable cause??
Defense lawyers can be expensive.

izzythepush wrote:

12 white guys deciding to back another white guy against a black victim
is about as far removed from "loyalty to truth" as you can get.

Thay were loyal to the truth of the evidence presented
in front of them, including black witnesses saying that blacks
at the scene were telling other blacks there to lie
to make the white cop look bad. By what reasoning
can probable cause be found against Wilson ?

izzythepush wrote:

The only way to get to the truth is by a trial,
and there's certainly enough evidence to prosecute.

What evidence do u have in mind, Izzy??
I thought that there was no evidence of any crime by Wilson,
but I 'll be interested to learn of any.

Suppose that next week, u become involved in an event
concerning which someone falsely accuses u of a crime
whereof u r fully innocent.
Woud u demand to be tried anyway, merely because of the accusation?

izzythepush wrote:

Your medieval, easily corruptible,

Has BRIBERY become an issue ?

izzythepush wrote:

grand jury is an obstacle to truth,
and a convenient way for the powers that be to wash their hands of the whole affair.

In this case, the equities were 1OO% on one side and O% on the other side.

Empathize with the D.A., Izzy.
Success requires u to prove certain elements of a crime
and then to argue the facts. If u have NOTHING to argue,
then u will be un-able to proceed. Woud u put witnesses on the stand
who u expect to perjure themselves?

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@OmSigDAVID,

We threw out Winston Churchill because he had no vision for the future. Churchill was a good wartime leader, but quite a mediocre peacetime one. Atlee's government changed Britain for the better.

The only way to get to the truth is through a trial. Everything else is legalistic smoke and mirrors.

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@FBM,

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Yeah, it's no fun, but if push came to shove, I could fight my way through it, I think.

The man had already push through being hits a numbers of times and only the last head shot stopped him.

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