Snowdon is a dummy

@revelette2,

hoorah~!

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Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, has already made it clear that he thinks Snowden committed treason, but now he says that Snowden should be charged with murder.

Edward Snowden Should Be Charged With Murder, Says Congressman Mike Rogers

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"The [US] government has pressed charges on Mr Snowden," he said. "We are treating him, as, I would argue, the traitor that he is." Rogers added: "And by the way, and this is important, I would charge him for murder."
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"He took information that allows force protection, not only for British soldiers, but for US soldiers, and made it more difficult for us to track those activities. Meaning it is more likely that one of those soldiers is going to get their legs blown off or killed because of his actions," he said. "Anybody that provides information to the enemy is a traitor, period, pure and simple."

He added: "Many don't find it odd he is in the loving arms of an SVR [Russia's External Intelligence Service] agent right now in Moscow. I do."

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@Walter Hinteler,

Mountain, mole hill, Mike Rogers.

These guys whose supposed to know legal issues don't know much of anything; Mr Rogers is not a prosecutor nor someone with any common sense.

Since Obama is a Kenyan, a communist/socialist, and the king - according to the GOP, maybe Mr Rogers has a good idea - like the scare on ebola from the right. One ebola victim deserves to stop all flights.

Scary; these idiots who make the laws of this land.

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@Walter Hinteler,

And they wonder why he's staying put.

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@izzythepush,

Like Frank repeats ad naseam, "Snowden will get a fair trial." He just needs to return to the good ole US of A. *And get shot by some idiot police with a gun.

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@revelette2,

Good for you, Rev. The truth shall set you free.

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Snowden deserves a fair trial...and I hope he eventually gets one.

Yeah, there are assholes like Mike Rogers suggesting he is a traitor and a murderer...just as there are others suggesting he is a hero.

He is a guy charged with very specific crimes...namely, stealing classified government documents and releasing them to people not authorized to receive them.

If he decides to return to the United States, those are the charges he should be tried on. He also has the option of not returning.

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@Frank Apisa,

Your record is stuck, Frank. Nudge the turntable.

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@cicerone imposter,

Like Lee Harvey Oswald.

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@Frank Apisa,

Well, Rogers said that "over 95%" of the information Snowden handed over had "nothing to do" with the NSA spying on American or European citizens' private communications but was "about tactical things, military plans and operations".
Since Roger's committee is charged with oversight of, among other the CIA, NSA and FBI (among others), he should know, shouldn't he?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Well, Rogers said that "over 95%" of the information Snowden handed over had "nothing to do" with the NSA spying on American or European citizens' private communications but was "about tactical things, military plans and operations".
Since Roger's committee is charged with oversight of, among other the CIA, NSA and FBI (among others), he should know, shouldn't he?

How does that impact on what I said, Walter?

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

How does that impact on what I said, Walter?

Don't know - I just hit the response button. Sorry.

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@cicerone imposter,

Rogers is not the one who will prosecuting his trial, nor the presiding over the trial, nor the one arresting him and bringing him to trial. If Snowden were to return home, more than likely, he will be guarded better than the Pope. The last thing the US needs is for Snowden to get shot and become a martyr. He said he wouldn't mind going to prison, I think he should put his money where his mouth is and face the consequences of his actions he has said he doesn't regret.

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@revelette2,

The rhetoric is what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter that he's not doing anything legal or illegal against Snowden. It's the rhetoric; it's dumb, stupid, idiotic, and uncalled for.

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@cicerone imposter,

Yes it is.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

Yes it is.

I agree completely with ci on this also, Revelette.

The crap Rogers is spewing is totally uncalled for...and perverts the system.

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According to 'yahoo-news' (and now various other media as well), the FBI identified the suspected second whistleblower.

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@revelette2,

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The last thing the US needs is for Snowden to get shot and become a martyr.

He is now in fact is a martyr to our freedoms and the constitutional rights to privacy without the need to be shot or even to be locked up in a small cell for the rest of his life.

He gave up a good life in order to warn his fellow citizens what their government is doing hidden behind security stamps and I see no need for this martyr to aid the government in increasing his punishment.

To ask him to turn himself over to the constitutional criminals in control of the US government would be similar to asking Joan of Arc to help collect the wood to be used to burn her at the stake.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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The last thing the US needs is for Snowden to get shot and become a martyr.

He is now in fact is a martyr to our freedoms and the constitutional rights to privacy without the need to be shot or even to be locked up in a small cell for the rest of his life.

He gave up a good life in order to warn his fellow citizens what their government is doing hidden behind security stamps and I see no need for this martyr to aid the government in increasing his punishment.

To ask him to turn himself over to the constitutional criminals in control of the US government would be similar to asking Joan of Arc to help collect the wood to be used to burn her at the stake.

What Snowden actually is...is a guy accused of stealing classified government documents and releasing them to people not authorized to receive them.

What he deserves...is a fair trial.

I hope that is what he gets, but I respect his right to stay put in asylum where he is.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Bound to happen, now or later. I read a article recently showing that Washington, as a social community of government staffers, has incorporated leaks as a necessary part of the American political system. The argument was that, without such leaks, everybody knows that the system will become too secretive for the good of the country, too dissimulative. This thinking apparently developed as more and more stuff became classified, top-secret etc.

In short, a secretive system breeds leaks, and may even NEED them to survive.

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