TIME TRAVEL: WHAT WOUD U CHANGE ??

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One of the things that I 'd change is I 'd casually hang around
outside the door of Abe Lincoln 's box in Ford 's Theater on April 14, 1865.
Secretary of War Stanton had removed Lincoln 's bodyguard therefrom.
It was undefended when Booth approached.
It woud be ez to turn him away (he was only armed with a single shot weapon).

If u coud go back in time and change anythings,
be thay historical or personal that u 'd like to mention:
What 'd u change if u coud ?

David

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I would go back and use a weapon on someone.

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And shoot them and shoot them.

And shoot them and shoot them.

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I 'd also like to be helpful in preventing or extinguishing
the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire of March 25, 1911.

Maybe buy the place b4 the fire and institute better
fire suppression procedures; or just send the girls home early that day.

something like that also qua the Dreamland fire at Cony Island in 1911

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

would take out hitler long before he became a noted person of interest

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

I would go back and use a weapon on someone.

I hope u pick someone appropriate.

In my childhood, I used to imagine going back in time
with a Thompson Submachinegun and doing the job on Karl Marx
b4 he caused any trouble, but upon re-consideration,
that woud have probably stopped both the Second and Third World Wars,
both of which resulted in major long term research & development.

Without those wars, we 'd be in a much more primative technological situation, probably not on the Moon yet,
and I might not have my 7 foot Hi Definition TV (of which I am fond).

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Change zero as who know what future even a "good" change such as wiping out the beginning of the Christian cult might end up producing.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

One of the things that I 'd change is I 'd casually hang around outside the door of Abe Lincoln 's box in Ford 's Theater on April 14, 1865.

Why save Lincoln? Just to be a nice guy and save someone? Or do you think it would set history on a different track (and can you predict where that new track would lead?)

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@rosborne979,

rosborne979 wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
One of the things that I 'd change is I 'd casually hang around
outside the door of Abe Lincoln 's box in Ford 's Theater on April 14, 1865.

Why save Lincoln? Just to be a nice guy and save someone?
Or do you think it would set history on a different track
(and can you predict where that new track would lead?)

There 'd probably have been a less vindictive reconstruction policy toward the South
and better respect for federalism, as per the 10th Amendment; preserve the division of powers.

Presumably, it woud also have saved the people who were hanged for killing Lincoln.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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better respect for federalism, as per the 10th Amendment; preserve the division of powers.

You far far right guys wish to indeed turn the clock back to the Articles of Confederation in the worst way do you not?

Sorry but you are hundreds of years too late as no one ID themselves any longer as a citizen of some state first and the national government second.

No one would make the decision that Robert E Lee and millions of others did in the 1860s nowadays that their first loyalty was to their states instead of the national government.

Get over it we are now one nation not fifty nations in some loose compact.

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The purpose of federalism was for the states to restrain federal power
and for federal power to restrain the power of the states' governments
so that the citizens will live in freedom, while the governments strangle each other,
like Dracula battling the Frankenstein monster.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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The purpose of federalism was for the states to restrain federal power
and for federal power to restrain the power of the states' governments

Sorry but the states have zero power to do anything to the Federal government that had been decided for four or so generations so living in a fantasy land is kind of silly.

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i would try harder to get together with a couple of girls i let slip away

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

i would try harder to get together with a couple of girls i let slip away

Me too. Or I would try to keep away from the ones where I ignored the red flags. But each choice I made taught me something and if I had avoided those choices I might have just stumbled into different problems. I'm not sure any change you make can lead to any better track (or at least any predictable track).

Now, if you could retain the knowledge and experience you had from those past choices, while still changing them, then that would be useful.

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@BillRM,

David wrote:

The purpose of federalism was for the states to restrain federal power
and for federal power to restrain the power of the states' governments

BillRM wrote:

Sorry but the states have zero power to do anything
to the Federal government that had been decided
for four or so generations so living in a fantasy land is kind of silly.

This is true BECAUSE of the effects of the Civil War 1861-5.

That was not true b4 the Civil War.

Indeed, my own state of NY, militarily attacked the South
after NY expressly reserved its own right to leave the union
in its instrument of ratification of the US Constitution.
NY was not the only state to thusly reserve its right to leave the union.

Imagine if America quit the UN and it sent in blue helmeted troops
to force us back into the UN again !!!

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

i would try harder to get together with a couple of girls i let slip away

After 30 years of retrospect, I revel in the fact
(I don 't say rejoice; her name is Joyce)
of one having slipped away (after she rejected my friendship).
I 'm glad I don 't have the problems that she woud have presented.

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@OmSigDAVID,

i have no idea what became of the 2 girls i'm thinking of, so i have no idea if i dodged a bullet or not

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

i have no idea what became of the 2 girls i'm thinking of,
so i have no idea if i dodged a bullet or not

Yeah; that 's the thing.

There was a pair of twin girls with whom I was acquainted as teenagers,
one of whom was rather pretty. I chanced to see a picture of them
a few weeks ago; its sad. (Of course, I look worse too.)
Thay were a bit ruff n tuff Italian girls; I like dainty n refined girls.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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This is true BECAUSE of the effects of the Civil War 1861-5.

That was not true b4 the Civil War.

Wrong the decisions of the Supreme Court that result the National Government being supreme date back many decades before the civil war and President Jackson even threaten the used of Federal Forces to collect taxes in South Caroline with the support of Congress many decades before the Civil War.

As far as New York reserving the right to leave the union I question if the courts would had declare that a valid right either and once more the constitution is what the courts said it is not what you think it is and that had always been the case.

Once we had torn up the Article of Conferation we was one nation and that the only way it could had work.

Thinking otherwise is fantasy.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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This is true BECAUSE of the effects of the Civil War 1861-5.

That was not true b4 the Civil War.

Wrong the decisions of the Supreme Court that result the National Government being supreme date back many decades before the civil war and President Jackson even threaten the used of Federal Forces to collect taxes in South Caroline with the support of Congress many decades before the Civil War.

As far as New York reserving the right to leave the union I question if the courts would had declare that a valid right either and once more the constitution is what the courts said it is not what you think it is and that had always been the case.

Once we had torn up the Article of Conferation we was one nation and that the only way it could had work.

Thinking otherwise is fantasy.

I notice that u did not comment on my reference
to us being trapped in the UN if we chose to leave it.

Again, it is clear that the joining, ratifying states
did not consider membership in the union to be necessarily a one-way trip;
i.e., thay made it plain that thay 'd not join if thay coud not get out freely.
Without the help of the Northern states, like the NY
that boldly defended its right to depart freely from the union,
when it joined that union, the federal government woud have had no hope
of subjugating the South.

I welcome your opinion (or anyone 's opinion) on this point;
in MY estimation, a dispassionate analysis of the Constitution,
particularly with its 10th Amendment, leads to an honest judgment
that the states did not relinquish their right to leave the union
independently, if so thay chose, the same way that when we joined
the UN, we did not lock ourselves in permanently, against our will.

Let me put it this way:
if the Founders had included a provision in the Constitution
that any ratifying state was permanently locked in and that it relinquished
any right to leave the union: the Constitution woud have had NO CHANCE of getting ratified.

In the end: might defines right. The winners write the history.

We citizens can still read
and make our own judgments qua what to believe.

David

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