Marriage Amendment, My Ass!

woiyo wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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The "anything goes" attitude of you and Cycle goes against many principles created by the founding fathers of this great society that we helped build.

You are 100% incorrect about this. Our Constitution was specifically designed and crafted to preserve individual freedoms from Governmental control.

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So if "anything goes" is the excepted norn, then Polygamy should be accepted, etc...

Sure. I don't have a problem with polygamy at all.

Cycloptichorn

Then you should have a ball with incest. How about marrying your Dog for medical benefits (for the Doggie that is).

Anything goes...right?

You are Appealing to Extremes, which is a logical fallacy.

My original comment:

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Who should decide the social makeup of our society?


Each individual has the right to do so for themselves, within the boundaries of negatively affecting others.

First, Incest amongst consenting adults is not illegal.

If you are talking about Incest amongst adults and children, this does not fall within the boundaries of 'not negatively affecting others.'

Marrying a dog is the same way; the dog is not an adult human, with rights and responsibilities and the ability to judge situations for itself. It can easily be argued that the dog would be taken advantage of in such a situation, and therefore this does not meet the 'not negatively affecting others' standard either.

Though, you are making a ridiculous argument anyways, so I don't know why I'm bothering to correct your poor logic.

Cycloptichorn

First, Incest amongst consenting adults is not illegal.

You bolded my comment:

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First, Incest amongst consenting adults is not illegal.

But didn't comment on the comment. Do you disagree with this notion?

Let me add that while I personally don't agree with the practice, I don't see why it should be illegal, as it doesn't affect my life one way or the other.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You bolded my comment:

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First, Incest amongst consenting adults is not illegal.

But didn't comment on the comment. Do you disagree with this notion?

Let me add that while I personally don't agree with the practice, I don't see why it should be illegal, as it doesn't affect my life one way or the other.

Cycloptichorn

In some societies, it is NOT illegal. In some it is.

In some societies, polygamy is legal, and in some, it is not.

What makes those societies different?

In the USA, the PEOPLE and their elected officials create rules that shape the norms.

Yet, you feel differently, specific to marriage, that anything goes and the people should not decide what the norm is.

I disagree. I would like to see this on a ballot and let the voters decide if homosexuals relationships can fall into the "marriage" catagory.

Even if the voters decide no, that does not mean IMO, they should be discriminated against relative to property ownership, etc...

If you don't hate homosexuals, why would care if they got married?

Just how do we stop these jokers from attempting to deprive every committed couple the right to be legally joined?]

However, I am Native American and I accepted the rules this society has developed over it's 200+ years of existance, all of which have been determined by the people and their elected officials.

woiyo wrote:

However, I am Native American and I accepted the rules this society has developed over it's 200+ years of existance, all of which have been determined by the people and their elected officials.

That is truly a shame. I mean that most sincerely.

Who is Dr. Lovejoy?

Where did I say I hate homosexuals?

Woiyo, I think it's a shame that you've not chosen to follow native traditions. They had/have much in their societies that I respect. Their attitude toward the two-spirited has always impressed me.

woiyo wrote:

Who is Dr. Lovejoy?

I've never heard of Dr. Lovejoy.

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Where did I say I hate homosexuals?

It's an inference. If you don't hate homosexuals, why do you care if they get married?